Week 8 update

[burnthiscorpse]

Is also be curious as to what you current training split and diet looks like

As would I. But running over 1200mg of gear a week for a first cycle isnt extremely alarming to you?!! Where do these guys get this shit from?

Theres nothing he will accomplish running all this shit that wouldnt have been accomplished with 300mg of test wk alone for a first cycle. Hes under the typical noob impression that more is better. Guarantee 10 of those 12 lbs is water.

 

[RickRock13]

As would I. But running over 1200mg of gear a week for a first cycle isnt extremely alarming to you?!! Where do these guys get this shit from?

Theres nothing he will accomplish running all this shit that wouldnt have been accomplished with 300mg of test wk alone for a first cycle. Hes under the typical noob impression that more is better. Guarantee 10 of those 12 lbs is water.

Yep, I agree with you 100%. Generally speaking, a large portion of these younger and inexperienced, uneducated juicers try run ridiculous amounts of gear to make up for a lack of training and diet....when we both know that isn't how it works. More isn't always better, and I always recommend running the smallest dose you can that is still effective for reaching your goals

 

[madbro]

I just want to know diet routine poundages used reps and PCT?

 

[bigbassturd]

Holy shit bro....just holy shit.

I ran test e at 250mgs a week for 10 weeks for my first cycle and by week 8 I was up 15 pounds. I gained a total of 22 and kept 20 of it.

You obviously don't eat enough and haven't trained long enough to build a base. You'll be as small as you were before in a few months, and without a pct, you'll be in worse shape mentally

 

[fantasyjuicer]

A tad too early. I am alot bigger and stronger, clean.

 

[dubbzero]

Don't see much of a difference to be honest, besides hairier arms.

 

[qwertyl]

As would I. But running over 1200mg of gear a week for a first cycle isnt extremely alarming to you?!! Where do these guys get this shit from?

Theres nothing he will accomplish running all this shit that wouldnt have been accomplished with 300mg of test wk alone for a first cycle. Hes under the typical noob impression that more is better. Guarantee 10 of those 12 lbs is water.

According to google one can normally add 23-25 lbs of muscle without aas working out and eating optimally.
That is 3.5 lbs in eight weeks.

But you think he has really just built one third of that on 1200mg aas?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

According to google one can normally add 23-25 lbs of muscle without aas working out and eating optimally.
That is 3.5 lbs in eight weeks.

But you think he has really just built one third of that on 1200mg aas?

1/3 my ass. He hasn't built shit. Just some water retention thus far from 600mg test a week. There's barely any change. I like he idea of a huge first cycle though cause then he can jump right into Tren and other shit at an even higher dose for a second cycle right cause his receptors will be ready for it.....
If this guy had a clue how to eat or train right he would have been twice the size of his current gains on only 6 months of natty training. Probably more.

 

[dylangemelli]

there is a big misconception that a million different things needs to be ran to make gains... that's just not the case... ive seen so many guys make huge gains on fucking nothing more than ph's... shit, me and rick are two of them... but we eat and train like fucking beasts... everyone wants a shortcut and im sorry to say, that with everything in life, a shortcut may be a quick fix but it never lasts... aas, when used properly, can definitely advance you but if your using it the way the op is, it won't last and will only cause harm... im not trying to be a dick at all but the simple truth is that more is definitely not always better and it all comes down to training and eating right... aas only magnifies it... however it will not be kept if the other aspects aren't covered...

 

[keepnitreal]

just curious OP, how long have you been lifting before you started this cycle ? curious to see your end result man, I really dont see a difference so far in. keep us updated though