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k33pGrowing
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Weed = the dark secret for bulking up
Well at least it was for me.
A few hits of some good chronic helps to consume massive amounts of food.
Well at least it was for me.
A few hits of some good chronic helps to consume massive amounts of food.gymratforlife
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I love a toke or 2 after a grueling workout but no more than that a J will last me a month lol.
shamrock11
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I think a little is great for the appetite.
sirskeletron
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I took a few hits the other day before a workout and an hour later i hit the weights.. Didn't want to lift at first but after my warm up sets I was all good.. And during my regular sets I felt like I was concentrating much better on my movements or something (anybody else ever did this?).. It was pretty cool.. Not something I would do everyday but I might try that again.. I love to take a few hits after a workout.. Helps me relax and eat well..
black sheep
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I'll stick to B12. I like my job too much.
gymratforlife
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I find it to be very productive for some reason gives me tons of energy and seems to make my muscles incredibly pumped even from doing regular things around the house go figure.
JKurz1
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b-12 does jack for me...........
I hate to use it, and it really doesnt get me hungry (weed), but as soon as I start eating something, watch out.......I'd never fathom using it during the day or any other time other than before bed. It takes the edge off, allows me to get my last PW meal in and then I'm out like a lamp 5 minutes later........but those peanuts and cottage cheese have a whole new flav.........
I hate to use it, and it really doesnt get me hungry (weed), but as soon as I start eating something, watch out.......I'd never fathom using it during the day or any other time other than before bed. It takes the edge off, allows me to get my last PW meal in and then I'm out like a lamp 5 minutes later........but those peanuts and cottage cheese have a whole new flav.........
VeniceMscl
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I know I'm gonna get sh*t from guys on here about this....but I gotta say weed is a big plus in my book. I'm 27 6'3 215 7%bf, been lifting for 10 years. And I love ganga. Doesn't make me tired. Does make me hungry. And more importantly, it is an INCREDIBLE way for me to ramp up my workout. Sure, if you're already an idiot, it will probably make you more of one. But for me, as soon as I take a couple tokes, my muscles start to swell and feel pumped and all I want to do is stretch out and then work out - REALLY HARD. Now, I'm sure some guys will drop a weight on their head if they're stoned. They shouldn't do it again. But if you're more together than that, I'd say weed + aas + caffeine = one awesome workout.
bignorthernpumper69
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I TOTALLY agree !!! My "buddy" is screaming at me for smoking telling me it'll wreck my cycle but I get all pumped up and shit after smoking and my focus in the gym is there big time I find my "deep dark place" way easier. The key is not to smoke lots just enough.
DonCorleone562
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Weed is the greatest....I maybe a lil biased....look at my flag homies
gymratforlife
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WHOLY SHIT I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT IT DID THIS TO.Every1 thinks Im crazy when I tell them weed makes me pumped as hell even with out working out it makes me swell for some reason and gives me tons of energy,really fucked up lol.And I am no pot head either I take a toke or 2 and Im fried so it dont take me a ton to get these great effects from it.VeniceMscl said:
Bruce
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weed makes people better at certain things, allen iverson, chris webber, stephon marbury, and a bunch of others play high as a kite . my whole lacrosse team would toke before games and it was like we were in the matrix passin the ball and shit. i love it before basketball working out. weed is wonderful
needtogetaas
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but you smoke the the fucken bomb ass weedDonCorleone562 said:
gymratforlife
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Well what ever the heck Ive been smoking gives me crazy pumps lol.Dont know much about what kind it is just know it only takes a toke or 2 and $10 last me over a month so well worth the investment.Works better than efedra for me.
Hahnb
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Bozwell said:
Marijuana is marijuana, no matter what the strain is the effects are basically the same despite what you've heard. No marijuana is going to make you active like coccaine would or another drug, it's a mild hallucinogen. If you smoke bongs right before your workout I doubt you're very serious about your training.
BIGPAPA511
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I used to smoke but don't any more. I used to smoke (a couple of hits) before I left my house to go to the gym I had a 20 minute drive to the gym and when I got there I was so fucking tuned in it was on I would train like a wild man. I always train as hard as I can but when I smoked I would be much more focused. My training partner thought I was crazy but he tried it and agreed it worked for him to.gymratforlife said:
ridethesnake
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"Marijuana is marijuana, no matter what the strain is the effects are basically the same despite what you've heard. No marijuana is going to make you active like coccaine would or another drug, it's a mild hallucinogen. If you smoke bongs right before your workout I doubt you're very serious about your training."
have a bowl of sativa and then a bowl of indica and get back to me on that. there IS most definitely a BIG difference between sativa and indica.
they're not different strains, they're different species.
it's like saying protein is protein, it doesn't matter where it comes from its the same.
Like 80% of NBA players admitted to smoking weed. How many lied and denied it?
You know where the word hashish comes from? the arabic/farsi (can't remember) word for assassin. Because cats would smoke up and then murder people.
do you believe all the stupid shit the media says about gear? then why believe all the stupid shit the media says about weed.
have a bowl of sativa and then a bowl of indica and get back to me on that. there IS most definitely a BIG difference between sativa and indica.
they're not different strains, they're different species.
it's like saying protein is protein, it doesn't matter where it comes from its the same.
Like 80% of NBA players admitted to smoking weed. How many lied and denied it?
You know where the word hashish comes from? the arabic/farsi (can't remember) word for assassin. Because cats would smoke up and then murder people.
do you believe all the stupid shit the media says about gear? then why believe all the stupid shit the media says about weed.
Slyder190
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Okay, first of all, I love smokin weed. I am a high strung person by nature, and it just sooooo mellows me out.
I gotta call it like I see it though. It's so much worse for you than tobacco. And guys who use it before workouts, I don't consider serious. I used to smoke it all day every day in my late teens and early 20's, and even though I wasn't as serious about the the iron lifestyle back then, I NEVER smoked before a workout. NEVER at all at any point in the day before a workout.
Yeah, it will help you eat like a wild beast, but for me, I crave sweets and want to devour everything in sight. Then it males me want to go to sleep an hour or so later, although that wasn't the always the case, but it is now-a-days for the most part. I may smoke 1-2x a week now, but it's usually later at night a few hours before bed. I should mention if you have trouble sleeping from juice or related drugs, weed will help put you to sleep.
That's my take on it maaaan.
I gotta call it like I see it though. It's so much worse for you than tobacco. And guys who use it before workouts, I don't consider serious. I used to smoke it all day every day in my late teens and early 20's, and even though I wasn't as serious about the the iron lifestyle back then, I NEVER smoked before a workout. NEVER at all at any point in the day before a workout.
Yeah, it will help you eat like a wild beast, but for me, I crave sweets and want to devour everything in sight. Then it males me want to go to sleep an hour or so later, although that wasn't the always the case, but it is now-a-days for the most part. I may smoke 1-2x a week now, but it's usually later at night a few hours before bed. I should mention if you have trouble sleeping from juice or related drugs, weed will help put you to sleep.
That's my take on it maaaan.
FlexManning
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slat1 said:
You're on the right track bro. At least one study has shown that marijuana actually increases metabolism. Yes, it can increase appetite for some people, and works wonder for those with appetite killing diseases. But, I must ask everybody, do you see more skinny or more fat potheads?
athlete.03
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Here are some facts on the weed issue:
1.) The effects we feel from marijuana come, at least primarily, from molocules that have an affinity for anandamide receptors. We get that word from the sanskrit, ananda, meaning, "to give pleasure."
2.) The most common psychotropic substance in marijuana is delta-9 tetrahydracanabinol (THC).
3.) The effects of marijuana vary widely from person to person. With some people it acts like a sedative, in some a stimulant; it can even induce symptoms of acute paranoid schizophrenia in some poor souls.
4.) I know a good deal of high level athletes who smoke before work outs with good results (discerning if the results are, "good" by the quality of their work outs and the quality of their competition). Indeed, I know of several who compete and consistently win while under the influence of the herb. You can say up and down that it's the placebo effect, but there's a lot of data to suggest that, in some individuals, marijuana can actually increase concentration.
5.) A life time friend who's a Navy SEAL (team 3) informed me that many of the SEALs in his platoon smoke before nightime operations to increase sensoryperception and focus.
M'kay...
1.) The effects we feel from marijuana come, at least primarily, from molocules that have an affinity for anandamide receptors. We get that word from the sanskrit, ananda, meaning, "to give pleasure."
2.) The most common psychotropic substance in marijuana is delta-9 tetrahydracanabinol (THC).
3.) The effects of marijuana vary widely from person to person. With some people it acts like a sedative, in some a stimulant; it can even induce symptoms of acute paranoid schizophrenia in some poor souls.
4.) I know a good deal of high level athletes who smoke before work outs with good results (discerning if the results are, "good" by the quality of their work outs and the quality of their competition). Indeed, I know of several who compete and consistently win while under the influence of the herb. You can say up and down that it's the placebo effect, but there's a lot of data to suggest that, in some individuals, marijuana can actually increase concentration.
5.) A life time friend who's a Navy SEAL (team 3) informed me that many of the SEALs in his platoon smoke before nightime operations to increase sensoryperception and focus.
M'kay...
uglyass
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It is the heightened sensory perception that makes my workouts better after a smoke. It's hard to explain but after a little toke (not a big one!) I can 'feel' my muscles contract more and I feel like I can squeeze them that much harder. It's very hard to explain. I can actually curl heavier weights after a smoke as i can contract my bi's harder and for more reps. Sounds weird, I know.
Please don't flame me if you are a cannabis hater, I'm just passing on my own experience and, for the record, I don't take it often and in small doses when I do.
UglyASS
Please don't flame me if you are a cannabis hater, I'm just passing on my own experience and, for the record, I don't take it often and in small doses when I do.
UglyASS
athlete.03
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UglyASS said:It is the heightened sensory perception that makes my workouts better after a smoke. It's hard to explain but after a little toke (not a big one!) I can 'feel' my muscles contract more and I feel like I can squeeze them that much harder. It's very hard to explain. I can actually curl heavier weights after a smoke as i can contract my bi's harder and for more reps. Sounds weird, I know.
Please don't flame me if you are a cannabis hater, I'm just passing on my own experience and, for the record, I don't take it often and in small doses when I do.
UglyASS
I have the very same effect and you actually described it pretty well. There's no reason to feel guilty about the use of cannabis -- it's a far healthier "recreational drug" than alcohol. That's simply undeniable.
GodOfThunder
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Hahnb said:
Actually you are wrong. Thats like saying steroids are steroids. Cannabis is usually a blend of two of its species indica or sativa. There is a third species that is debated to exist, ruderalis, that grows in russia. You don't hear much about that one because it is very low in THC.
Cannabis sativa is a tall plant, generally between 8 and 12 feet. The leaves have long thin fingers and are light green. The more equatorial varieties have more yellow pigments to protect the plant from intense light. Sativa buds are long and thin and turn red as they mature in a warm environment. In cooler environments the buds may be slightly purple. Sativa plants smell sweet and fruity and the smoke is generally quite mild. It is a source of fiber for rope and other products and it contains THC which gives smokers the psychic effects they seek. The leaves of this plant are smoked but the most highly prized part of the plant is the top.
Cannabis indica, is plentiful in the Mideast, India, and Central Asia especially Afghanistan, Kashmire, and Pakistan. It is a short plant, generally between 3 and 6 feet, and its leaves have short broad fingers. The leaves are generally dark green sometimes tinged with purple. As they near maturity, the leaves may become significantly more purple. It is a strong smelling plant with a "stinky" or "skunky" smell. The smoke of indicas is generally thick and more prone to cause coughing when inhaled. Indicas are the traditional source of hashish.
* Cannabis ruderalis is a debated third variety of cannabis found in Russia, Poland, and other eastern Europen countries. Schultes classified cannabis as having three species: sativa, indica, and ruderalis based on the formation of the seed pods. There is some debate as to whether there is justification for this third category. Some features of ruderalis are large seeds, short weedy plants (4-6 feet tall) and a lower level of thc than sativas or indicas.
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Now for you to say that anyone who smokes weed before or after they work out is not very serious about their training....maybe you are right.There's probably alot of us that smoke herb on this board that are bigger and stronger than you too. Not that that matters, but who are you to judge all of us? I work out in some form(cardio/weights) 5-6 times a week and I don't even I don't take life all that seriously. Go figure.
I know what I'm about to do though.
Light up a bowl of some nuggs!!!
gymratforlife
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These are my thoughts and experiences down to a T.Now Im not saying I do this every week but once every week or two I partake before a workout and get the most incredible pumps and concentration.UglyASS said:It is the heightened sensory perception that makes my workouts better after a smoke. It's hard to explain but after a little toke (not a big one!) I can 'feel' my muscles contract more and I feel like I can squeeze them that much harder. It's very hard to explain. I can actually curl heavier weights after a smoke as i can contract my bi's harder and for more reps. Sounds weird, I know.
Please don't flame me if you are a cannabis hater, I'm just passing on my own experience and, for the record, I don't take it often and in small doses when I do.
UglyASS
Weed is ok when used as a supplement not when used purely for recreation. I know about 8 pro's here in CA and out of them about 4-5 smoke here and there. If you cannot eat and a couple hits of a joint will help you eat then use it. If it will help you sleep when you cant use it.
Sometimes after a hard leg workout I cannot eat so the first thing I do is take about 3-4 good tokes of a joint, relax for about 10 mintues then eat what I have to.
If your doing it everyday all day long then you are just warrenting bodybuilding as an excuse for your habit. Like I said use it as a supplement and you will be fine.
Sometimes after a hard leg workout I cannot eat so the first thing I do is take about 3-4 good tokes of a joint, relax for about 10 mintues then eat what I have to.
If your doing it everyday all day long then you are just warrenting bodybuilding as an excuse for your habit. Like I said use it as a supplement and you will be fine.
majutsu
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By the way, on the indica/sativa issue. Marijuana consists of many psychoactive compounds: THC (both delta -8 and -9), CBD, THCV, CBN etc . . . Sativa is high in THC and low in the sedating CBD, resulting in a more hallucinogenic/"manic" high. Indica is often balanced in CBD and THC, resulting in a more sedating/"stoney" feeling. Some South African varieties have a lot of THCV resulting in altered, almost "acidic" highs. Ruderalis and hemps are very low in THC. Sativa and indica are biologically the same species since they cross and mate easily, but they are classified into different taxonomic groups because their cannaboid profiles are so different that they are essentially different substances in their utility to humans. The problem most people have in understanding all this initially is that they think marijuana is one drug (like alcohol or cocaine), but it's not. It's really a biological entity that produces hundreds of closely related psychoactive drugs (the cannabinoids).
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Hahnb
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GodOfThunder said:
Um, no. It's not even close to the same analogy. LIke I said marijuana isn't a stimulant, it isn't a depressant, it's a mild hallucinogen-therefore it's range of effects when smoked are very narrow. Just like every other drug out there. Some might make you more sleepy, hungry etc...but there isn't a magical plant out there that acts like a stimulant like some people are claiming because it simply doesn't have the chemical properties to do that.
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PolfaJelfa
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Just because something liek Alcohol is labeled a depresent ...does not mean teh person will be in a sense depressed...while in defenition their system will be..they tend to be very stimulated...active..agressive etc.
Smoke up guys. I personally like a good stong smoke..be4 heavy leg workout..makes the pain bearable..and lets me go beyond the pain..and do many more lbs than without. A weekend smoke is also very nice.
Everything in moderation.
Smoke up guys. I personally like a good stong smoke..be4 heavy leg workout..makes the pain bearable..and lets me go beyond the pain..and do many more lbs than without. A weekend smoke is also very nice.
Everything in moderation.
gymratforlife
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Speaking of that its a nice relaxing sunday and I dont even have a roach anywere within reach to take a toke and chillPolfaJelfa said:
GodOfThunder
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Hahnb said:
That doesn't make any sense. It seems like you've never smoked the wype of weed that energizes you and makes you want to work out and maybe you haven't drank tequila or Jager(which make me feel like i'm catfshing with a shotgun so to speak). So maybe you just don't understand, but social norms have nothing to do with how a substance effects your body.
sirskeletron
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Hahnb said:
Because someone smokes before a workout doesn't mean they aren't taken their lifting serious. I mean if they are saying that it is helping them lift harder and stronger then how are they not taking it seriously..? Please explain.. For one thing weed and any chemical compund effects people differently, so what you should of said is "If I smoke weed then I will not take my lifting serious!" How do you know what effects people are having from a substance?? Even if it didn't actually help them it sure isn't hurting them either. I personally concentrate much much better when high but not too high because then I am like duh!!! But only 1 or 2 hits I USUALLY lift one or 2 more reps easily. I think you probably haven't ever done marijuanna so you shouldn't speak on it. Even if you did, like I said the effects you may have gotten isn't what everyone will have.
Hahnb
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GodOfThunder said:
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Alcohol is a depressant, you can't change that. The reason people act the way they do when they are drunk is because of the people around them and social norms. People think you're suppose to have a good time when you're drunk. If you sit at home and drink by yourself you're going to act totally different than you would if you were at a party with 100 people. It's not really a debatable issue, anyone who has taken any psych classes will tell you the same thing about social drinking rituals with alcohol.
Little Boy
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Hahnb said:
If you're sitting at home alone, you'll be depressed because well..you're all alone.
I've sat and drank with with 5 friends and we end up having a good time....drinking is a social thing. Heck, I even played some friends on X-box live and we got drunk, and it was fun. You can't do it alone.
Hahnb
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Little Boy said:
But if you were at home alone, sober-you woudn't be depressed unless you're suffering from chronic depression. If simply being alone causes you to be depressed then you're suffering from medical depression.
"Effects on emotional states and specific forms of behaviour are clearly extremely hard to demonstrate, as to prove that alcohol produces, by way of action on the CNS, psychological changes which lead to particular behaviours, one must control for the influence of social and cultural factors and individual expectations regarding the effects of alcohol. The anthropological literature shows how central aspects of culture can radically shape the ways in which people learn to drink and the patterns of behaviour which are associated with alcohol consumption. The different patterns of learning fostered by different cultures, and the novel modes of learning that acculturation can present, do not only provide models of appropriate and inappropriate drinking habits, they also create sets of expectancies regarding the behavioural effects of alcohol."
“There is overwhelming historical and cross-cultural evidence that people learn not only how to drink but how to be affected by drink through a process of socialisation...Numerous experiments conducted under strictly controlled conditions (double-blind, with placebos) on a wide range of subjects and in different cultures have demonstrated that both mood and actions are affected far more by what people think they have drunk than by what they have actually drunk...In simple terms, this means that people who expect drinking to result in violence become aggressive; those who expect it to make them feel sexy become amorous; those who view it as disinhibiting are demonstrative. If behaviour reflects expectations, then a society gets the drunks it deserves.”
"Expectations not only shape drunken behaviour, they also enable subsequent rationalisation, justification and excuses (MacAndrew and Edgerton, 1969; Gusfield, 1987). In cultures where there is an expectation that alcohol will lead to aggression, for example, people appeal to the fact that they were drunk in order to excuse their belligerent conduct."
Just a few inserts from one of the most reputable studies done on alcohol.
fbodyguy02
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Mexicasa Plexiglassa
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This is just to the people who think marijuana is bad if used for recreational use. Who cares? Everyone was given an individual life to do with it what they want. If "civilization" didn't look down on it to such a broad extent, everyone wouldn't be intoxified by the effects of brainwash that marijuana is a horrible thing to do, or immoral, or wrong.
It is a plant that grows on our earth, it was given to us. Sugar does just as bad to your body as anything else in the long run, and look how much our so called moral barometre "civilization" smiles upon it.
It is a plant that grows on our earth, it was given to us. Sugar does just as bad to your body as anything else in the long run, and look how much our so called moral barometre "civilization" smiles upon it.
Hahnb said:
I understand what you are saying but you are mistaking marijuana for THC. There is THC in marijuana and THC is a mild halucinogen but there are many other active compounds (someone already provided a decent list). The differences people feel are based upon the blend of these compounds. This I'd certainly assume is why synthetic THC doesn't seem to help medical patients restore appetite as well as actually smoking the plant does. Sure, THC is a mild halucinogen (the effect of such drugs can vary and be influenced by their very nature) and it is closely associated with marijuana but that's not the only active component in the plant. It's not as straightforward as alcohol or cocaine. That said, even alcohol - the buzz someone feels can be affected by the other components - rum = sugur, gin = juniper berries - although the primary active is alcohol I don't know too many people who don't notice an entirely different buzz like feeling depending upon what it is they are drinking (of course, nothing in the world keeps alcohol from being a depressent but one is consuming more than just alcohol).
You have no idea what you are talking about ,I have grown and smoked weed for years ,I have grown weed from all over the planet and belive me the are strains of cannabis such as HAZE and THAI will produce an unreal speed like high, smoke to much and you blood pressure will rise along with your heart rate but small doses its IDEAL before a work out to produce an active thoughtfull high were as an indica is ideal for post workout to relax and provoke hunger .as for not being serious about my training ,I base my life around the gym and my familyHahnb said:
I hope you know more about training than you do about weed
otherwise you be fucked
DonCorleone562 said:
I may be comining in November! Ahh that special time of year! Cannibus Cup time! I smoke daily and i do before some workouts too. It does not give me a pump but a cup of coffee and 50mg of Ephedrine HCL and my metal tunes!!! BAM! It also keeps me from getting sick to my stomach during the workout. I train heavy and really fast (always done in 1 hour) so my blood gets acidic and I get nausious. SP? But all and all I am all about it! I just wish they would make it legal!Quad
mendo
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Hahnb said:
We've all smoked it bro...we know what it does for us...and thats different for everyone. I could care less what its classified as (depressant, stimulant, hallucinogen, etc.) . And yes, there are many different strains with VASTLY different effects (due to different ratios of cannabinoids, many of which have not been studied at all)...which again, vary somewhat from person to person. So no...the effects of weed are not narrow and predictable. Go to Amsterdam or N. California and sample diff. varieties...it will open your eyes.
Peace.
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