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As long as you you do it in a sensible manner I think it won't hurt at all. I replaced beer (which I think is alot harder on your body) for awhile with it and never had to take aspirin or anything of that nature through the week. Like Brian said also there is no way training high would be good but a nightly bowl/joint with a friend helps relax after a day filled with idiots and a high test level lol.
 
Anytime you take in smoke that is filled with carcinogens. . . immediate damage is placed on the heart. This can disrupt optimal performance of the heart and restrict proper blood flow. Tars gum up the air sacks and restrict oxygen supply. There are mounds of literature that provide scientific proof of the devastating effects of smoke from marijuana and cigarettes.

The only way to make excellent gains is to live a clean life and treat your body with care. How is the body supposed to perform at 100 percent when it is trying to expel carcinogens that are floating within the system? It can't. .

As far as I am concerned this coversation is over, especially when people are in denial or have to justify their reasons for using drugs.
 
louden_swain said:
Anytime you take in smoke that is filled with carcinogens. . . immediate damage is placed on the heart. This can disrupt optimal performance of the heart and restrict proper blood flow. Tars gum up the air sacks and restrict oxygen supply. There are mounds of literature that provide scientific proof of the devastating effects of smoke from marijuana and cigarettes.

The only way to make excellent gains is to live a clean life and treat your body with care. How is the body supposed to perform at 100 percent when it is trying to expel carcinogens that are floating within the system? It can't. .

As far as I am concerned this coversation is over, especially when people are in denial or have to justify their reasons for using drugs.
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I agree, but I still like my dubs :)
 
Brownies or a vaporizer are two easy ways around the toxins you speak of, didn't know it was such a touchy subject. Stress kills more than people think relax man, btw watch out for that fake sugar it'll cause cancer, and that milk will likely cause an allergic reaction, the sugar will cause diabetes, have you ever had your water checked from the tap? Mine has around 300 ppm's worth of crap in it, compared to 0-25 in pure water, and last I checked caffeine,alcohol and cigs are all drugs and legal, I used it to bring my weight back up to par period, I also take a needle in my ass at least weekly/daily so there is no denial of drug use here.
 
louden_swain said:
Anytime you take in smoke that is filled with carcinogens. . . immediate damage is placed on the heart. This can disrupt optimal performance of the heart and restrict proper blood flow. Tars gum up the air sacks and restrict oxygen supply. There are mounds of literature that provide scientific proof of the devastating effects of smoke from marijuana and cigarettes.

The only way to make excellent gains is to live a clean life and treat your body with care. How is the body supposed to perform at 100 percent when it is trying to expel carcinogens that are floating within the system? It can't. .

As far as I am concerned this coversation is over, especially when people are in denial or have to justify their reasons for using drugs.
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Yeah.....breathing smoke when you're body is made for oxygen may not be the best thing.

If you have to have it......guess you could make protein brownies with it or something.

Personally, I'd rather relax at the buffet. AAhhhh..... mounds of food is so relaxing. Hip hip......Hooray!
 
i personally have never tried it and probably won't. the brownie method sounds much safer. and brownies are always good
 
So it's agreed
Brownies and Vaporizers :)
Although making/buying a vaporizer might be a bit difficult and brownies give a completely different high. Good call on the carcinogen/tar stuff, didn't even think of that, but I don't smoke it =/. Watch out for munchies though.

I think our brain was designed to handle weed cuz why would there be cannabinoid receptors ;).
 
Since when are the munchies a bad thing? I should start smoking 2 hours after I work out and consume inhuman amounts of food.
 
Of course it's not going to HELP your workouts, but next to the common practices of binge drinking, breathing the air in Los Angeles, or whatever, is it going to hurt your gains as much? We start dying from the second we're born. What he probably wants to know is, if he recreationally smokes will it cause a noticeable difference and what would the difference be compared to other unhealthy choices humans make. And how much is too much, and if one quit it altogether would there be a noticeable difference? At least that's what I'd like to know.

P.S. As far as your body's concerned, THC isn't nearly the pain in the ass alcohol is, so I hope none of the people that run down smokers in these threads ever drink.
 
Louden, I know you're into clean living and all. In the case of alcohol, there's mountains of evidence that it lowers testosterone, inhibits protein synethesis, and all sorts of nasty anti-growth-y things.

Aside from the danger posed by inhaling smoke (which, btw, is MUCH less significant in weed as compared to cigarettes, especially if you use a bong), I've never seen anything to the effect that weed inhibits growth directly. Sure as hell makes bulking a lot easier though. Consider it an appetite booster supplement.
 
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.......... Sure as hell makes bulking a lot easier though. Consider it an appetite booster supplement.
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Ah yes.....long ago, when I did.....I definately remember calories increasing...lol.
 
A vaporizer is a device that has a heating element and a bowl sort of to put the weed in, they generally need to be plugged in(for electicity), anyways it heats the weed to below the combustion point and releases the thc in a vapor like looking mist kinda stuff that you inhale, so it is more effecient and no burning so no carcinogens. Here is a great link here
 
I read not too long ago that THC causes the release of hormones which block production of testosterone and also stimulate the release of estrogen. It was a study done on THC in pill form. The purpose of the study was to find out if giving THC to people with a catabolic state, usually brought on by illness, would assit them in gaining lean muscle mass. It was done on normal men. The study found that even though the subjects intake of food increased, their lean muscle mass did not increase much, but they did gain fat . This was due, the study concluded, to the increase in estrogen and decrease in testosterone. I cannot remember who conducted the study, and due to the fact that I personally stopped smoking sometime ago, I do not really have much interest in digging it up. Those of you that choose to smoke might want to look into it.
 
Some people need to live a little. Training is not life as much as some of you would like it to be. Please don't take offense, just something to think about. ;)
 
fastgain said:
Some people need to live a little. Training is not life as much as some of you would like it to be. Please don't take offense, just something to think about. ;)
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for some people it is. different people have different goals. some here are athletes.

On this subject......watch out for PCP. I am addicted now!
 
I made comments based on when I smoked and now I don't. I could not tell a big difference in gains. I went to train high once, once being the operative term, never ever again.
 
Yeah, I don't plan to train high, but if I decide to smoke recreationally with a couple of friends, I didn't want it to inhibit my growth, or at least not all that much. I'm not a hardcore bodybuilder or powerlifter, so if it makes a slight difference it won't matter much to me. I can see why, for some, it would be a big deal.
 
First off your gonna die one day, so unless your worried about the adult diaper wearing yrs. I would not worry about it....All things in moderation my man.

carcinogens. . . immediate damage is placed on the heart.
this is not true, from what I've read and I could be wrong what happens is there are so many preservatives , such as rat poison, fermaldihide,( pardon the spelling )etc placed on taobacco these are the carcinogens the tobacco itself is actualy not.

If you are worried take two knives place the tips on the burner of the stove until red hot, take a 1 gal. soda container and cut the top off, take your smoking material and place it on the end of one knife, you'll need a frined to do this part, place the soda bottle in your mouth, have your friend place one knife om top of the other, place this under the open end of the bottle, as the material burns you inhale....
 
The only way to make excellent gains is to live a clean life and treat your body with care. How is the body supposed to perform at 100 percent when it is trying to expel carcinogens that are floating within the system? It can't. .

Relax a little big fella, you may wake up go into the gym and hit a big lift while an anurisim is forming in your brain...

I agree you should take care of yourself, but in my opinion alcohol is FAR more dameging than pot, the only reason it's not legal in this country is the government has a huge"war on drugs" and what are they gonna do , turn around know and say well it's ok were gonna grow it and tax it, please, why do you think anabolics and growth are ilegal, because the medical community gives huge kickbacks to our politicians, they want you to get sick so you can be medicated till your dead.
 
DBCooper said:
Brownies or a vaporizer are two easy ways around the toxins you speak of, didn't know it was such a touchy subject. Stress kills more than people think relax man, btw watch out for that fake sugar it'll cause cancer, and that milk will likely cause an allergic reaction, the sugar will cause diabetes, have you ever had your water checked from the tap? Mine has around 300 ppm's worth of crap in it, compared to 0-25 in pure water, and last I checked caffeine,alcohol and cigs are all drugs and legal, I used it to bring my weight back up to par period, I also take a needle in my ass at least weekly/daily so there is no denial of drug use here.
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Yeah my man, laying it out ther honestly.....3 thumbs up
 
Hmmm...What about drugs like acid and mushrooms, or ecstasy? Do they have any direct effect on one's training or results from training, etc.? I read an article a long time ago about painkillers having a negative effect on muscle gains, I think it was over the counter stuff, but I can't quite remember, is that true? Also what about more 'serious' drugs like vikadin(?) and oxycontin?
 
Acid and shrooms imo on occasion I doubt would, but x is a major stimulant and drains the brain of chemicals(serotonin I think) so I think it would be very bad, also the pain pills can be bad also, oxy's are nothing to play with-stay away from those. They make other pain meds look like candy and are for extreme pain from cancer etc. I am not getting scientific here due to time but people I know and have seen is what I am basing this on. I have never tried shrooms-acid-pills, x once before I got into pl so that has no base. I stick to beer, weed, what ever makes me stronger and of course women :) . Spatts had a thread about ibuprofen or aspirin having a slight negative effect.
 
DBCooper said:
I stick to beer, weed, what ever makes me stronger.
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I am quite sure that your testosterone levels are lower than the average trainer. . . . .too bad.

Plus, your protein metabolism isn't functioning at 100 percent.

Besides, why not stick to a high protein and carb diet? Nutrition is much better than chemicals that disrupt bodily functions.
 
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Yeah, I don't even smoke weed much. I actually trip on this psychadelic/dissociative anasthetic called Dextromethorphan (DXM) found in cough syrups. The only adverse effect it has that's something to worry about is the dumping of such high amounts of glucose into your body all at once on an empty stomach. This can overload your pancreas/liver/kidneys but other than that, the drug is probably on par with weed in terms of its damaging effects, if not safer.

I'd hate to have to make a choice between my drugs which keep me relaxed after some stressful days in life, and my training and body.
 
'Robo' tripping, my Army buddies used to do that stuff, next day they would sleep forever. and louden there is no way I have a low test level lol.
 
Yep, I've heard it referred to as Robo tripping. I personally never get tired the next day, I feel fine afterwards. Even in the beginning I didn't, but now I've experienced it upwards of 30 times. The worst thing I get is a huge yawning spell at the end of my little trip.
 
("Besides, why not stick to a high protein and carb diet? Nutrition is much better than chemicals that disrupt bodily functions.")

I'm sure Don Juan would agree that learning to see and becoming a man of knowledge is much more beneficial than body building; Powerlifting, I'm not sure...

hahaha

just kidding

Legion, I would love DXM, I tried it the other night, but I found out I'm allergic to it, haha.
 
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Oh man, seriously? That sucks. Nice to know other people out there are trying the drug; or at least not bashing me consistently for it. I was expecting alot of negative feedback for drinking cough syrup to get high, but in reality its really quite strong - in its own way, stronger than PCP and Ketamine, from what I understand.

I use it mainly for the "lower plateau" trips which enhance the sound and "feel" of music, bringing to it a sense of euphoria. It just makes me feel extremely relaxed.

Sorry to get off topic, I know this is all supposed to be about training.
 
yeah, but I can totally see how it would be a nice trip, I had the same feeling with it that you get, but that was inbetween the insane amount of scratching from itches and red eyes and puffy skin, it was weird, even my stretch marks stood out like crazy, they were actually raised off my skin...... I like Diphenhydramine (dramamine, benadryl, etc.) for a legal substance lol sorry for getting off topic too.....but has anyone tried morning glory seeds?
 
If you're serious about training and living a healthy lifestyle, why not give it 110%, and leave the empty pleasures (i.e. drugs) behind? Seems to me that if you're gonna be serious about getting high a lot, your priorities as a bodybuilder/powerlifter/strongman/whatever are ass backwards.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Because when my last bench shirt blows, the last knee wrap is wrapped, and my tendons have set records and my body refuses my mind, there will be a time when I won't be powerlifting and I certainly don't won't to be bored between bank heists.
 
DBCooper said:
Because when my last bench shirt blows, the last knee wrap is wrapped, and my tendons have set records and my body refuses my mind, there will be a time when I won't be powerlifting and I certainly don't won't to be bored between bank heists.
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:FRlol:
I definitely hear that. I myself am not a bodybuilder or powerlifter. I simply lift recreationally because I want to improve the look of my body somewhat, but I don't plan on competing with top-grade athletes and such. If I planned to, I would drop the drugs to be sure I was getting maximal gains. But hell, if I'm only losing a bit of mass for 4-8 hours of euphoria from music for $5 (the duration and cost of my robo trips) then it's all worth it.

It's all about what makes you happy in life. To each his own.
 
louden_swain said:


I am quite sure that your testosterone levels are lower than the average trainer. . . . .too bad.

Plus, your protein metabolism isn't functioning at 100 percent.

Besides, why not stick to a high protein and carb diet? Nutrition is much better than chemicals that disrupt bodily functions.
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I benched 700 lbs over 60 times between jan-july this year in training and competition, tried 800 plus, 3 times.....I use 500 mgs of test a week and 200 mgs of eq.....I start tren 4 weeks out from a comp.....

I smoke on friday and sat .....

I think your theory and the theory of others is a bit off.

I would however stay away from that other crap, it's way to harsh.
 
The rules are different if you're "supplementing."

For the natural athlete LS is correct.

Kids, the moral of the story is, if you're going to smoke pot, just go all out and take the roids too. lol
 
spatts said:
The rules are different if you're "supplementing."

For the natural athlete LS is correct.

Kids, the moral of the story is, if you're going to smoke pot, just go all out and take the roids too. lol
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ALL RIGHT SPATTS,, BREAK OUT THE COOKIES AND MILK
 
LS, you're talking to the second best bencher in the world...actually, now that Mendy retired, you're talking to the best bencher in the world. I think he has every right to be here, whether you like his habits or not.
 
spatts said:
LS, you're talking to the second best bencher in the world...actually, now that Mendy retired, you're talking to the best bencher in the world. I think he has every right to be here, whether you like his habits or not.
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OK. . I will no longer devote any more time into this topic.
 
Studies have shown that marijuana lowers testosterone levels in men.
Marijuana use can also lower sperm counts possibly resulting in difficulty in having children.
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GAHHHHH!!!! Less smokey for me.
 
LS that website you posted, I have a couple comments on:

1. Don't you think that a site called "marijuana-detox" might be slightly biased?

2. It sounds like they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to come up with side effects. I mean, do you see one thing on there that seems dangerous or extremely detrimental? Examples:

"Smoking marijuana causes some changes in the brain that are like those caused by cocaine, heroin, and alcohol." Changes in the brain? Hahaha...

"Marijuana has a strong and distinct odor that is not easy to wash off and that can remain on the breath despite repeated brushing." OH NO, BETTER STICK TO HEROIN
 
"Females who use marijuana, over time, increase their levels of testosterone which can result in increased facial hair and acne, and may adversely affect reproductive functioning in women."

=roids for women =D

But why would it raise test levels in women and lower it in men?
 
I am gonna have to jump on the smoke it b-wagon....

I spent most of my teenage years high...lol I don't smoke much now but I still have my phases, i would rather smoke than drink anyday...

one thing that you clean living types don't get is that stress is the most catabolic thing you can have going on in your system, personally, I would rather relax and smoke a joint, get laid, pop a couple of vicotin and fucking grow.....well it works for me:FRlol:
 
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OK. . I will no longer devote any more time into this topic.
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Louden, dont' take offense my man, just providing my opinon.
One thing I realized a long time ago, you cannot believe everything you read, especailly medical studies.
Let me offer you a little backround, I was a police officer for 8yrs, I have 5 kids, I own my own business with my woman and I am not politically correct, I do not belivve in altering myself to make others happy. In the words of the late great popeye I am what I am and thats all what I am.

I watched doctors kill my 5 yr old god son who died of lukemia, they destroyed his immune system with tons of kemo while trying to kill the cancer and in the process destroyed everything else, Then gave him steroids to rebuild everything and had him so full of shit his little heart just fuckin quit working. Kinda fucked the cancer is'nt what killed him....

If you ask me pot is the least of our worries. You talk about going to buffets and eating all the time, a buffett is the dirtiest fucking place on the planet, the food is always sub par, the meat your getting is loaded with steroids and other preservatives, more than likely the chicken your eating has had cancer because it spent it's short life living in a box in the dark and was fed recycled phone books and shit for food, as far as chinese goes, I'm not even gonna tell you how bad that shit is for you. I don't know if you consume alcohol or caffene, but I'm sure you realize how unhealthy that is. Your water is probably loaded with flouride andI'm sure your a milk drinker like most. Todays milk is loaded with estrogen producing hormones as well as artificial vitamin d.

We all have our own thing my man, have an open mind and realize the govt and medical commmunities are really not your friend, I smoke because when I use anabolices my mind races and it relaxes me.
If you don't want to smoke thats fine it's your perogative, but do not look down on those who do or think less of people you don't even know, this is why the world is the way it is. One day your gonna wake up dead from something, or you will get killed in a traffic accident, no matter what it is your gonna die, until this happens to me I'm pretty much gonna do what I want and not within reason If I wante d to do things average or live within reason, I'd have been a banker or a gas station attendant. I am an adrenaline junkie, I like to fight drink and fuck, anything that gives me a rush I enjoy, and if I die as a result so be it, I lived the way I wanted too..

This was ment with no malace my man...Just my thoughts from me to you.

Stay Strong

Mike
 
Closing down buffets, and distending your organs in the process, can also have an effect on nutrient absorption. I don't binge, smoke, take ibuprofen, pain killers, etc. I DO have my vices, I suppose, but I sure as hell wouldn't pass judgement on anyone for what they do.

Ironlion, excellent point about stress. Once again, risk is relative.
 
Acute effects of marijuana use include a decrease of the time until the onset of chest pain in patients with angina pectoris; one study has shown that marijuana may trigger the onset of myocardial infarction. Patients who have coronary heart disease or are at high risk for the development of CHD should be cautioned about the potential hazards of marijuana use as a precipitant for clinical events.

So it appears that obesity, anabolics, and marijuana isn't a good combination. To each is own. My personal opinion, it's freakin' stupid.
 
spatts said:
Closing down buffets, and distending your organs in the process, can also have an effect on nutrient absorption. I don't binge, smoke, take ibuprofen, pain killers, etc. I DO have my vices, I suppose, but I sure as hell wouldn't pass judgement on anyone for what they do.

Ironlion, excellent point about stress. Once again, risk is relative.
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Well spatts in the words of adman ant , don't drink, don't smoke what do ya do... bwhahahah.....hmmmmmmm

Oh I know speed work with chains.....one of my persoanl favorites
 
Not to change the subject AGAIN or anything, but do the older people on this board find it hard to get ahold of marijuana? (i'm 18) it seems like it would be, but I may just not be thinking....


---->"I would however stay away from that other crap, it's way to harsh."

I disagree if u mean shrooms, but I would like to read into it a little if you have any info or sites to reccomend??? ( i may just be in denial :D )


also:
when i smoke weed, I do notice the diffrence with my breathing capacity or whatever it is, but I DO notice it the next day.....or workout or whatever....

through a vaporizer, would that problem go away? It really wouldn't affect my lungs in thesame way at all would it?

and 1 last thing, are 'knife hits' the same as using a vaporizer?
my buddies use 2 flattened out spoons, cut the bottom off of a gaotroade bottle an fill the top of it with ice then do the usual....
 
Mule, very good post. Karma to you after I finish mine.

I must agree with Debaser on the name of the site, which forces me to lean towards believing it's biased. Regardless of that though, notice it doesn't say those "changes" in the brain are permenant. That's because they're not.

As it goes, I believe, receptors in the brain are "stimulated" or sometimes "cutoff" (though the cutoff is merely temporary) by marajuana. Those hinderances in the hippocamus, such as difficulty with memory, especially short-term, and inability to learn (which I disagree with, due to the fact that many people study "high" - I'm not one, however) are just the effects that one is endowed with when high.

Basically, once that high wears out, one will return to normal, except for maybe a slight hangover. Someone else said it here - moderation is key. This, I believe, is true. Too much of anything isn't good.

As for the lowering of testosterone levels, I don't know how true that is and due to the fact that the goverment doesn't want us using marajuana, I would think that any propoganda distributed by them would be biased, or a complete lie in itself, to deter us from the use, or even sheer idea of it.
 
one study has shown that marijuana may trigger the onset of myocardial infarction.
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always these studys, and do you notice its always MAY?

I mean for every study, not just the good ones but also the bad ones.
 
spatts said:
The rules are different if you're "supplementing."

For the natural athlete LS is correct.

Kids, the moral of the story is, if you're going to smoke pot, just go all out and take the roids too. lol
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Hmm, will remember that. :D

-sk
 
IronLion said:
I am gonna have to jump on the smoke it b-wagon....

I spent most of my teenage years high...lol I don't smoke much now but I still have my phases, i would rather smoke than drink anyday...

one thing that you clean living types don't get is that stress is the most catabolic thing you can have going on in your system, personally, I would rather relax and smoke a joint, get laid, pop a couple of vicotin and fucking grow.....well it works for me:FRlol:
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Dunno about the vicotin, but definetely agree with you on everything else. :D

I've smoked weed a few times before (the only thing I tried, aside from alcohol, and under 10times) and it sure releaves stress ... can't complain about the munchies either.

IMO, smoking weed would become a problem if you do it non-stop, at that time it becomes hard to get a hold of reality ...

-sk
 
I avoided reading this thread for a long time, but finally my curiousity was too much. One of the most interesting threads I've come across here.

The worst I do is have a cigarette or cigar once in a while. It really calms the nerves and relieves stress. Moderation is the key. Keep posting guys - interesting stuff.
 
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when i smoke weed, I do notice the diffrence with my breathing capacity or whatever it is, but I DO notice it the next day.....or workout or whatever....

through a vaporizer, would that problem go away? It really wouldn't affect my lungs in thesame way at all would it?

and 1 last thing, are 'knife hits' the same as using a vaporizer?
my buddies use 2 flattened out spoons, cut the bottom off of a gaotroade bottle an fill the top of it with ice then do the usual....
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A bong will help your breathing capacity I believe. Brownies would be your best choice to deal with any lung damage, due to the fact that there's no smoke.
 
Wow!!! Lots of interesting posts here. Seems some are just as anti-weed as they are anti-juice. Funny.

What is also funny is that the strongest and biggest people who have posted on this thread have all been of the mindset that a little weed won't kill you.

And none of us of that mindset have low test levels. I promise you. Tee hee.

If clean living makes you happy, go for it, just don't sweat others who decide to live differently. And the hype over how bad mary jane is for you is the most grossly overblown BS I have ever heard. Back in the 60's parents and the government were saying that it would kill you. Well, guess what? They were lying, it doesn't kill you.

So now they are telling you it will ruin your brain, lower your testosterone levels, make it impossible to get out of bed and go to work, and all sorts of other lies that are just as blatant, though slightly harder to disprove than the "death" lies of the 60's and 70's.

Relax everybody. As I told my son last night. There is no reason to get all excited. The one thing that we all know for sure about life is that none of us are getting out of this thing alive. If you eat, drink, breathe, or live, something is going to kill you. I say live as much as you can and get all the enjoyment possible while you are alive.

I swear, some of you clean freaks will not even notice it when you die. What thrills will death keep you away from?

B.
 
well it obviously isnt the best for you, but as many have stated, half the shit you consume in everyday life isnt any better for you...

different strokes for different folks.. weigh the +'s and -'s and decide for yourself.

i use to smoke a j with my training partner after every workout and i made the best gains during that 6 month period that i have ever made... maybe it relaxed me so much that my muscles could rest, repair, and grow...

it beats zoloft. it beats stress induced catabolism. it beats being angry all the time :) . it helped me quit smoking ciggs. it helps me sleep. i'd argue that it is better for you than booze (i never went and did anything stupid while high, but i have been to jail because of shit i have done while pissed.) i could go on forever. arnold smoked a j in pumping iron! lol.
 
Marijuana was one of the drugs that got caught up in the whole post-prohibition rush to make shit illegal. A large part of the push to make it illegal was the fact that Mexican immigrants were smoking and planting it. This is similar to the way opium was made illegal b/c so many Chinese railroad workers were using it. It is kept illegal today by powerful lobbyists in the tobacco & alcohol industries and people who get funding for "the war on drugs". The war on drugs is a miserable failure, but when $40 billion is flying into law enforcements hands, they dont want to miss out on $15 billion because weed became legal.

9 states have medical marijuana. Go to this site and see if yours does. If it does, go to your doc and tell him that you want a recommendation (you dont get a prescription for weed) for some smoke for your "chronic pain" or "nausea". Then its legal at the local & state level for you to have the mary jane.
http://www.NORML.org/
(this site has the laws for all 50 states & some US territories)

As I've stated on many other threads:
- Weed doesnt effect test or estrogen levels
- You cant OD on weed
- There is no long term damage to the brain
- It decreases stress
- Helps eyesight
- It can help those with AIDS, Glaucoma, MS, Pain, Nausea, Wasting disease, and many many other ailments
- Other than minor lung damage (like anything smoked), it has no drawbacks
- It does not effect driving like alcohol

Download "Growing Medical Marijuana" by Todd McCormick on Kazaa, it's loaded with some facts & has the transcript from an episode where Dr. Drew & Natalie Maines argued against Todd McCormick & Woody Harrelson on some show. Todd McCormick had cancer 9 times by the time he was 10, and weed helped his ass. Its a good read. You'll need Acrobat Reader to read it.

http://www.CannabisCulture.com/
http://www.Yahooka.com/
http://www.Marihemp.net/
http://www.OverGrow.com/
http://www.Marijuana.com/
http://www.HighTimes.com/
 
beefybull said:
Marijuana was one of the drugs that got caught up in the whole post-prohibition rush to make shit illegal. A large part of the push to make it illegal was the fact that Mexican immigrants were smoking and planting it. This is similar to the way opium was made illegal b/c so many Chinese railroad workers were using it. It is kept illegal today by powerful lobbyists in the tobacco & alcohol industries and people who get funding for "the war on drugs". The war on drugs is a miserable failure, but when $40 billion is flying into law enforcements hands, they dont want to miss out on $15 billion because weed became legal.

9 states have medical marijuana. Go to this site and see if yours does. If it does, go to your doc and tell him that you want a recommendation (you dont get a prescription for weed) for some smoke for your "chronic pain" or "nausea". Then its legal at the local & state level for you to have the mary jane.
Marijuana Law Reform - NORML
(this site has the laws for all 50 states & some US territories)

As I've stated on many other threads:
- Weed doesnt effect test or estrogen levels
- You cant OD on weed
- There is no long term damage to the brain
- It decreases stress
- Helps eyesight
- It can help those with AIDS, Glaucoma, MS, Pain, Nausea, Wasting disease, and many many other ailments
- Other than minor lung damage (like anything smoked), it has no drawbacks
- It does not effect driving like alcohol

Download "Growing Medical Marijuana" by Todd McCormick on Kazaa, it's loaded with some facts & has the transcript from an episode where Dr. Drew & Natalie Maines argued against Todd McCormick & Woody Harrelson on some show. Todd McCormick had cancer 9 times by the time he was 10, and weed helped his ass. Its a good read. You'll need Acrobat Reader to read it.

http://www.CannabisCulture.com/
Ya-Hooka - The Guide on the Internet
Marihemp - The Marijuana and Hemp Network
http://www.OverGrow.com/
http://www.Marijuana.com/
High Times > Home
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Exactly what I wanted to read!!!! LOL Good post!
 
to answer the original question to my best ability....
yes.. smoking weed will hinder gains...
dont take this the wrong way... id love to smoke pot all day, but ive noticed that the more i do it... the harder it is for me to make gains...
i have cut back several times... and always break plateaus... then get back smoking heavy again and get put back 6 months worth of training...
it depends on what you are looking to accomplish i suppose...
i am looking to break a state record deadlift... and honestly i dont think i will be able to do it if i dont quit somking... on the other hand i can still be in great shape... but i want the record more...
 
first off great post. loved reading all these.
i personally smoke weed on a daily basis lol.
iv prolly smoked everday for the last 3-4 months.
i also workout 5-6 days a week. i swim everyday for cardio (because i hate running)
a couple months ago i started a new workout and diet all while i was still smoking.
in around 2 months i gained 24 pounds, maxes sky rocketed, and iv never looked better or been more confident in the way i look.
i will admit that i had some test 250 to help me out but still.
my best friend who did everything that i did except smoke weed had the exact same gains as i did.
we ate the same meals at the same time and worked out together everyday. only difference is after workout id go roll a blunt and hed
go do whatever.
hes never smoked, i smoke everyday, and we still had the same gains.
 
Ill have to agree with above I smoke every day and I see NO effect on my gains, the only bad part about smoking weed is the munchies. I feel it makes me sleep a lot better feel more relaxed after a hard work out and helps me recover. I recently smoked my first time before lifting and posted a new max in bench and squat on the same day.
 
Smoking makes me one lazy fucker! If I could get it often and not be as lazy I would probably do it every day! I used to condemn everyone that did it, but I realized drinking was a much worse habit. It definitely helps you sleep and eat more though so if your trying to lose weight, I wouldn't suggest using it if there is food in your house.
 
Well, aside from the obvious potential lung injuries, I don't know of any effects on gains or on strength training. But common sense says that if your lungs aren't 100%, you can't train as hard.

Charles
 
I smoke just about daily. most days only at night., I do train high once in a while and always have a great workout. I get extremely focused. Not stupid stoned either. A toke or 2 of some good nuggs and I'm ready to go.
 
beefybull said:
Marijuana was one of the drugs that got caught up in the whole post-prohibition rush to make shit illegal. A large part of the push to make it illegal was the fact that Mexican immigrants were smoking and planting it. This is similar to the way opium was made illegal b/c so many Chinese railroad workers were using it. It is kept illegal today by powerful lobbyists in the tobacco & alcohol industries and people who get funding for "the war on drugs". The war on drugs is a miserable failure, but when $40 billion is flying into law enforcements hands, they dont want to miss out on $15 billion because weed became legal.

9 states have medical marijuana. Go to this site and see if yours does. If it does, go to your doc and tell him that you want a recommendation (you dont get a prescription for weed) for some smoke for your "chronic pain" or "nausea". Then its legal at the local & state level for you to have the mary jane.
Marijuana Law Reform - NORML
(this site has the laws for all 50 states & some US territories)

As I've stated on many other threads:
- Weed doesnt effect test or estrogen levels
- You cant OD on weed
- There is no long term damage to the brain
- It decreases stress
- Helps eyesight
- It can help those with AIDS, Glaucoma, MS, Pain, Nausea, Wasting disease, and many many other ailments
- Other than minor lung damage (like anything smoked), it has no drawbacks
- It does not effect driving like alcohol

Download "Growing Medical Marijuana" by Todd McCormick on Kazaa, it's loaded with some facts & has the transcript from an episode where Dr. Drew & Natalie Maines argued against Todd McCormick & Woody Harrelson on some show. Todd McCormick had cancer 9 times by the time he was 10, and weed helped his ass. Its a good read. You'll need Acrobat Reader to read it.

Cannabis Culture Magazine | Marijuana Magazine
YaHooka
Marihemp - The Marijuana and Hemp Network
http://www.OverGrow.com/
http://www.Marijuana.com/
HIGHTIMES.COM > Home
Click to expand...

used to smoke ED for a while and it definitely fucked with my BP. Thats the only negative side effect i got from it, so cant smoke anymore. However I dont think this is typical. Also weed decreases the risk of several cancers
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
weed used to make me feel like id get more reps because of better oxygen or some shit, but it would always take me 15 minutes to do a set lol
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Are you saying you'd be high while lifting? Marijuana is actually a bronchodilator so it would open up the small passages in your lungs making it easier to breathe. It's actually used medically for asthma sometimes haha
 
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