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deco said:
No need to yell if you have their respect. I was forced to study when I didnt want to, I was forced to go to practice when I didnt want to, I was punished for the things I did wrong. Today I thank them for it, and if it wasn't for them I wouldnt be going for a double major, I wouldnt be able to afford a 30k car at the age of 20, I wouldnt have afforded a 600k rental property. I am the way I am because I was disciplined. So why should I not think that? So I can one day raise a tree huggin hippy who will ask his friends to bang his wife? No thanks.



lol....a picture formed in my head of what part of the world you came from :lmao: Good thing dude :)
 
deco said:
No need to yell if you have their respect. I was forced to study when I didnt want to, I was forced to go to practice when I didnt want to, I was punished for the things I did wrong. Today I thank them for it, and if it wasn't for them I wouldnt be going for a double major, I wouldnt be able to afford a 30k car at the age of 20, I wouldnt have afforded a 600k rental property. I am the way I am because I was disciplined. So why should I not think that? So I can one day raise a tree huggin hippy who will ask his friends to bang his wife? No thanks.
lol@people talking about how rich they are on the net.
 
needtogetas said:
lol@people talking about how rich they are on the net.

Any better suggestions on how to demonstrate effect of being disciplined? Whatever I said I can prove so I thought it would be a good example. Really there's nothing special about it, disciplined to build a good credit and that's it. Some people I know blow their financial aid money on drugs and alcohol. Others invest it. One will end up with a condo after he graduates the other will end up with a whole lot of debt and ruined credit. That's the difference between being disciplined and having freedom to do whatever. People need to be governed no matter how much some liberals may think otherwise.
 
deco said:
No need to yell if you have their respect. I was forced to study when I didnt want to, I was forced to go to practice when I didnt want to, I was punished for the things I did wrong. Today I thank them for it, and if it wasn't for them I wouldnt be going for a double major, I wouldnt be able to afford a 30k car at the age of 20, I wouldnt have afforded a 600k rental property. I am the way I am because I was disciplined. So why should I not think that? So I can one day raise a tree huggin hippy who will ask his friends to bang his wife? No thanks.
So, you're saying that forcing works? It's a choice, maing. I know people who got the same stimuli and chose a different path once they left Mommy's and Daddy's arms. I know people who didn't get any help, but managed to pull themselves out of the fire and come back stronger.

lmao at the car and the property, I guess long (or life) term planning isn't your strong suit...ah well...
 
deco said:
People need to be governed no matter how much some liberals may think otherwise.
lmao...doublespeak..."the need to be governed"...now there's a lib response if I ever saw one...

neocons say that life is a choice and you're free to make it as you please

sorry hippie, I like my freedoms to choose and live on the consequences...
 
EnderJE said:
lmao...doublespeak..."the need to be governed"...now there's a lib response if I ever saw one...

neocons say that life is a choice and you're free to make it as you please

sorry hippie, I like my freedoms to choose and live on the consequences...

Wrong. It's authoritarian, which is, more often than not, conservative. I didn't mean to point that direction(touch politics) and I can understand why you would turn it against me and look at it that way, however if you really want to go into details on it I was simply reffering to Hobbes. Which is neither liberal nor conservative.
Also, if you don't consider real estate as a long term investment, you must be above us all. Care to share? Please leave the IRAs and social securities alone, I don't plan on retiring on dimes and nickles.
In either case, I didn't want to spark a pissing match between liberals and conservatives so let's drop the name calling.
Finally if you're reffering to yourself as a neoconservative which roughly means you don't give a shit about others(I actually don't find that too bad) why not just stay away from giving a bad advice. If someones wants to pull the trigger, why encourage him? just because he has a free choice? Where's the honor in that.
 
deco said:
Any better suggestions on how to demonstrate effect of being disciplined? Whatever I said I can prove so I thought it would be a good example. Really there's nothing special about it, disciplined to build a good credit and that's it. Some people I know blow their financial aid money on drugs and alcohol. Others invest it. One will end up with a condo after he graduates the other will end up with a whole lot of debt and ruined credit. That's the difference between being disciplined and having freedom to do whatever. People need to be governed no matter how much some liberals may think otherwise.



hi adolph~!! :rainbow:
 
deco said:
If someones wants to pull the trigger, why encourage him? Just because he has a free choice? Where's the honor in that.
Short answer.

My amusement.

Longer answer.

It's the Internet chat board.

We're a bunch of strangers who don't matter in each others lives.

Typically, I find people come for advice on how to do stuff or on a particular topic. Some people give serious answers. Others don't. At the end of the day, the person has to decide for themselves what the right thing to do is regardless of what "we" say because they're the ones who have to live with the consequences.

So, as the advice giver, you can take two paths. One is to always give serious advice. Sometimes this will work. Other times, it won't. This may result in the advice receiver choosing the other path and then bitches when it doesn't work out.

The other option is to give crazy advice. It's like that Chex commercial. Let's feed it Mikey and see if he'll *actually* eats it.

Myself, I'm not a swinger. Some people are. So, it MUST work for some people. I can't see how, but if it does work for some and the person is interested in it; then I give the advice that he should try it because he's already thinking down that path anyways and only wants some sort of vindication (sp).

The act occurs and two things can happen. One, he finds the happiness that he's looking for. I feel good because he proclaims on how *great* it is. Two, he doesn't find happiness and find despair instead. I am amused in the same way I am sometimes when I read the Darwin Awards. Then I give a little cry for the death of common sense. Either way, I'm ahead.

:D
 
Other points that I missed...

deco said:
Also, if you don't consider real estate as a long term investment, you must be above us all. Care to share? Please leave the IRAs and social securities alone, I don't plan on retiring on dimes and nickles.
You indicated that you have a 600k rental property. I assumed that you were renting it. Hence, the comment. If you own it, then I take it back.

deco said:
In either case, I didn't want to spark a pissing match between liberals and conservatives so let's drop the name calling.
okay, commie...:D

lmao...
 
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