Wasted Gear?

[ninjamonkey]

Part way through my cycle, the dude who supplies my pins etc. let me down for more supplies. I injected cyp & prop into my glutes with 1ml insulin syringe as he assured me this would be fine until we can get more. Just a bit worried the needle won't have gone deep enough and the gear will be wasted. Anybody any thoughts? (Apart from make sure you have enough pins to start with as I've already realised that now)

 

[Heath1282]

u might be ok, depends on you bf. from now on, if its 1in. needle hit your delts/quads/pecs etc...

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Dude, any pharmacy in Scotland will give you pins without any questions.

You can also order them online.
Forget using an insulin needle to shoot oil. It would take forever and ever and ever.

Just go in to any pharmacy and ask them for 10 blue needles (23g) at 1.25 inches.

No worries, no questions.

 

[fitnessfreaky]

Yeah at least order a supply to put in reserve in case you run into that problem again.

 

[bw1]

You're ok

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Most common insulin needles are 1/2inch and 5/8inch although this varies.

You will need to tell people how much bodyfat you have around your quad before asking if you hit the muscle

 

[ninjamonkey]

Thanks for the quick replies guys.

Don't have an exact figure for my bodyfat but I train MMA pretty seriously so it's reasonably low. 6ft 1" weigh 180lb approx, not much visible fat.

Thanks for the info about the pharmacies, didn't know that - always thought you had to be a registered junkie to get stuff that way.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

Well there are people on HRT that shoot all their test with slin pins. However, they use the fat around their stomach area as there is more blood flow.

I'm not sure how much blood flow is in the fat on your glutes so it may just take longer to dissipate to the body. Either way it isn't a waste because remember fat are still cells and there is still blood flowing to them and that blood will still carry away the oil and test.

If you HAVE to use slin pins for now you should just shoot the side of you quad with them. I know on my quads a half inch pin is deep enough to get to the muscle.

 

[fitnessfreaky]

haha, its funny that you brought up being only available for junkies! Its weird how junkies and even high school kids can get their hands on just about anything, but educated people have a difficult time....

 

[Burpees]

Well there are people on HRT that shoot all their test with slin pins. However, they use the fat around their stomach area as there is more blood flow.

I'm not sure how much blood flow is in the fat on your glutes so it may just take longer to dissipate to the body. Either way it isn't a waste because remember fat are still cells and there is still blood flowing to them and that blood will still carry away the oil and test.

If you HAVE to use slin pins for now you should just shoot the side of you quad with them. I know on my quads a half inch pin is deep enough to get to the muscle.

Yea? HRT guys do that??

I always figured it's a great way to cause an abscess.. The body doesn't process the compounds the same/as easily through fat.

 

[79steeler]

Remember to alway's have everything on hand before you start a cycle, this includes all your pins, pct, and any aromatase inhibitors you may need. It makes for a more relaxing cycle.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

Yea? HRT guys do that??

I always figured it's a great way to cause an abscess.. The body doesn't process the compounds the same/as easily through fat.

Not all of them, most do it IM as far as I know, but some of them definitely do. These people are using human grade gear tho... Who knows whats in some of the UG stuff. So I wouldn't really recommend it for someone cycling. Plus they use much smaller amounts than someone on a cycle. I personally wouldn't want to pump 2cc's into my fat lol. You can check out some other HRT forums, there are guys all over them doing it that way.

 

[Latamier]

If your guy actually told you that he is a complete moron. I cant even imagine how you were able to draw it up. Or how long that took either. You sure dong get much of a vaccume from a 1cc insulin needle.

 

[energizer2000]

This is one ive always wondered, ive got blues and yellows they seem to be the same length the blues say 0.6 and yellow 0.5 ? Are both okay?

 

[timtim]

shoot your thighs with the slin pins.

never, i repeat, never inject oil based compounds into the skin around your stomach. thats for hgh only, not oil based aas.

 

[Burpees]

Not all of them, most do it IM as far as I know, but some of them definitely do. These people are using human grade gear tho... Who knows whats in some of the UG stuff. So I wouldn't really recommend it for someone cycling. Plus they use much smaller amounts than someone on a cycle. I personally wouldn't want to pump 2cc's into my fat lol. You can check out some other HRT forums, there are guys all over them doing it that way.

heh i squeezed the plunger a bit going into my left glute two days ago.. I have a massive hard lump in there. i mean you can see it when i'm naked. It has to be because of the oils, I can't imagine 1cc or 0.5cc into my ass lol.. I'd have a hardboiled egg in there..

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

heh i squeezed the plunger a bit going into my left glute two days ago.. I have a massive hard lump in there. i mean you can see it when i'm naked. It has to be because of the oils, I can't imagine 1cc or 0.5cc into my ass lol.. I'd have a hardboiled egg in there..

LOL yup. The couple times that I didn't go deep enough with a 1" pin in my glute I got the same thing. You couldn't see it from the outside (at least I don't think you could), but it hurt more to sit down and whatnot and it took longer to go away. Then I started only using 1.5" pins for glutes and no more golf balls!

 

[Latamier]

1.5" is all I will ever consider using for glutes. 1" is fine for delts and quads but, you have very little fat in those areas. I'd be willing to bet that it takes several weeks for that lump to go away, being that fat is not very vascular.

 

[needtogetaas]

Never do shit the wrong way. 25g or more.

 

[Burpees]

1.5" is all I will ever consider using for glutes. 1" is fine for delts and quads but, you have very little fat in those areas. I'd be willing to bet that it takes several weeks for that lump to go away, being that fat is not very vascular.

it makes a lump the size of a grape or cashew, takes about 7-10 days to get super small again.. I massage it daily. It's not even a lot of gear, it's what drips out of the needle as I pull it out of my glute.

 

[timtim]

it makes a lump the size of a grape or cashew, takes about 7-10 days to get super small again.. I massage it daily. It's not even a lot of gear, it's what drips out of the needle as I pull it out of my glute.

youre not supposed to massage oil injections. only water based.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

youre not supposed to massage oil injections. only water based.

Where did you hear that? Almost anyone will tell you to massage the inject site after you shoot to break up the depot and increase absorption as well as prevent some soreness. It really does help.

 

[timtim]

Where did you hear that? Almost anyone will tell you to massage the inject site after you shoot to break up the depot and increase absorption as well as prevent some soreness. It really does help.

my doctor. my friend who is a doctor. my friends wife who is a nurse. since i stopped, no soreness or discomfort at all. they did say water based injects require massage.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

my doctor. my friend who is a doctor. my friends wife who is a nurse. since i stopped, no soreness or discomfort at all. they did say water based injects require massage.

Hmm interesting. I wonder if its just something that gets parroted around forums a lot. That tends to happen with a lot of info.

Did they happen to tell you why you shouldn't massage oil injects and only water based? I would love to hear the reason (not being sarcastic, I would really like to know).

 

[timtim]

Hmm interesting. I wonder if its just something that gets parroted around forums a lot. That tends to happen with a lot of info.

Did they happen to tell you why you shouldn't massage oil injects and only water based? I would love to hear the reason (not being sarcastic, I would really like to know).

does nothing for the dispersal of the oil and can add to swelling which i have experienced, along with bruising and irritation.

believe me, people will stand by the massage method. thats cool. i feel no soreness when i leave it alone, just put pressure and clean it. do what works for you. this has been much more effective FOR ME.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

does nothing for the dispersal of the oil and can add to swelling which i have experienced, along with bruising and irritation.

believe me, people will stand by the massage method. thats cool. i feel no soreness when i leave it alone, just put pressure and clean it. do what works for you. this has been much more effective FOR ME.

Thanks for the info.

 

[Burpees]

I don't sit there and rub my site for a minute or anything. Just a little rub with an alcohol swab to cure my angst. I don't have time to massage my rump. What I was talking about rubbing is the compound that gets stuck in my ass fat, it makes a hard lump, I need to rub it daily and it slowly gets smaller takes a few days, like almost two weeks.

 

[energizer2000]

heh i squeezed the plunger a bit going into my left glute two days ago.. I have a massive hard lump in there. i mean you can see it when i'm naked. It has to be because of the oils, I can't imagine 1cc or 0.5cc into my ass lol.. I'd have a hardboiled egg in there..

I injected my sust250 the other day and i dont know what i did wrong but when i removed the needle it pissed with blood for a good 15 seconds and had a marble sized lump under my skin which went away after 5 minutes of massaging the area... shit me up i thought id not got the air out of the syringe properly..

 

[Burpees]

I injected my sust250 the other day and i dont know what i did wrong but when i removed the needle it pissed with blood for a good 15 seconds and had a marble sized lump under my skin which went away after 5 minutes of massaging the area... shit me up i thought id not got the air out of the syringe properly..

you went through a big vein.. you're fine.

if you get a head rush, and you aspirated, you probably went through a vein and a drop from the needle got caught in the flow.. you feel it when you pull out because the blood flows again..

if you get a lump in your fat, you got some oil in there..takes some time but it will go away..

in my thighs i hit big veins all the time, they got big and hard looks like a brown finger or some shit.. tripped me out the first time.. now I use the z-tracking method on my quads and im fine.. doing that lets me see all the veins before I plunge.. my legs are lean..