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[work_hard777]

Need Advice

Hi, im 17 years old and am currently not in a sport until next fall for football. I weight lift 4 days a week and am right now trying to gain as much muscle and lean weight mass i can.

I am only 5'8'' and 145 lbs, i am very strong for my size but my ultimate goal was to someday reach 170 lbs. I have been eating a lot more that i usually have, all healthy food to be exact. For supplements i have takin Russian Bear Protein, Nitro-Tech Whey Protein, Cell-Tech Creatine, and GNC HMB amino acids.

It just seems im trying so hard and am always researching, asking, looking for tips and advice for what i should do or change. I am just not getting the results i want. I want to become as fast and strong as i possibly can by next football season and take what i have learned to keep training hard for many years to come.

So if anyone here has any advice or questions for me feel free to tell or ask me anything. Im dedicated and work hard to achieve my goals so anything will be helpfull for me.

Thanks for your time.

 

[work_hard777]

^^

 

[LiftHeavy123]

Re: Need Advice

Hi, im 17 years old and am currently not in a sport until next fall for football. I weight lift 4 days a week and am right now trying to gain as much muscle and lean weight mass i can.

I am only 5'8'' and 145 lbs, i am very strong for my size but my ultimate goal was to someday reach 170 lbs. I have been eating a lot more that i usually have, all healthy food to be exact. For supplements i have takin Russian Bear Protein, Nitro-Tech Whey Protein, Cell-Tech Creatine, and GNC HMB amino acids.

It just seems im trying so hard and am always researching, asking, looking for tips and advice for what i should do or change. I am just not getting the results i want. I want to become as fast and strong as i possibly can by next football season and take what i have learned to keep training hard for many years to come.

So if anyone here has any advice or questions for me feel free to tell or ask me anything. Im dedicated and work hard to achieve my goals so anything will be helpfull for me.

Thanks for your time.

Hey check out the "Workout Vault" @ http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=484815.
Specifically look at the 3x5 and 5x5 workouts depending on your training experience. Also read Starting Strength @ http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=998224. This will get you started. Just so you know a lot of people here including myself keep lifting logs for our 3x5 and 5x5 workouts. Check some of those out too. For future reference, the 5x5 is great for bulking and cutting.

 

[al420]

I would buy Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe and read it cover to cover. Do what he says and you will be the man by the fall.

Then read the training sticky on the Rippetoe 3x5 program. Do the 3x5 untill you stall, or can't add weight workout to workout.

Then go read the sticky on the Bill Starr 5x5 and do the Intermediate version until you stall. Then do the Advanced version.

When you get sick of that buy Practical Programing by ...guess who...Mark Rippetoe and then you won't need anyone's help ever again to get bigger, faster, or stronger.

 

[work_hard777]

Wow thanks a lot. Yeah i will look into what you guys said. Oh and for the supplements im taking, am i on the right track or should i be changing or adding some things??? If i do everything right and i weigh anything from 145 - 148 right now, is it anyway possible to reach 170 by next football season??

 

[al420]

145 to 170 @ 17yrs old and we have till the FALL... Hell yes. Here is what you do (besides buy Starting Strength and do the 3x5):

Drink 1.5-2 gallons of water a day.

Meal 1: 7 Eggs, 1 cup oats, 2-3 slices whole wheat toast w/ all natural peanut butter (anpb)
Meal 2: Whey, 3 cups whole milk, 2 tbsp ANPB, banana
Meal 3: Chik Sandwich - 8oz chik, whole wheat bun, cheese if fine (fat free if your to vain to bulk properly!), mayo is also fine.
Meal 4: Same as meal 3
Meal 5: ANPB and Jelly w/ 3 cups whole milk
Meal 6: Family Dinner - whatever it is just eat it and eat big - drink a quart of milk w/ dinner
Meal 7: Whey, whole milk, anpb or Dinner leftovers

Snack on almonds, or if you really want to grow eat another meal or two. A smart guy once told me "no one gets big eating chicken breast and broccoli all day". You are not a body builder so throw out everything you have ever read in a Muscle & Fitness rag. They are dog shit and their advice is on par.

Food is the key. Supplements are meant to do things similar to what food does, but since most people won't eat the right whole foods they need to supplement. Your supplement list is totally fine. Add a multi vitamin and some Glucosamine and you are set.

 

[Guinness5.0]

Superb advice in this thread. Buy Starting Strength and EAT. You should coast past 170 if you stick with it and EAT.

 

[Svetislav_aka_Waczlaff]

Drink 1.5-2 gallons of water a day

Al,

what is the reason / advantage to drink so much water per day ?

Svet

 

[SgtSlaughter]

I can drink up to 2 gals and 5k cals at 230... seems unessesary at 170lbs

He'll live if he can cram all the food he can down... chase it with milk and if theres room inbetweeen drink some water.

That menu looks tasty, no clue what the macros are for it though.

 

[silver_shadow]

a gallon of water is a minimum... keeps the kidneys from breaking down