Want Huge Shoulders, Drop The Presses - Hit The Raises!!!

[Aussie Juga naught]

Behind the neck press, and military press all the way...

 

[JOKER47]

I personally can't see how ONLY raises would do much for strength.


Joker

 

[vinylgroover]

Raises of any description have done nothing for my shoulder development. I have never done front raises, rarely performed rear raises and minimal laterals, yet my shoulders are perhaps my best bodypart.

Virtually every shoulder workout see's me choosing between dumbell presses, clean and press, shrugs, militaries and very occasionally laterals.

My rear delts are fine primarily due to chins, rowing and genetics.

 

[Vortexx]

I need the raises rather than presses, i believe we have different people out there....

One major issue with delts how to put them into your routine , like said, most people need like three days before they can do train chest after delts and training delts with chest often will hinder doing serious overhead presses.

However someone on this board suggested to train chest and follow this up with a good amount of sets of just side and front raises and i feel this is working for me and i recommend it to people who have tried (and i mean really tried) the heavy overhead presses without desired results.

 

[Vortexx]

try the lateral raise machine from technogym, it allows you to use more weight than with dumbells, while the pads force you in a strict motion plane, too bad they don't have this machine at my gym

 

[punch]

I guess it all depends on what you are looking for. It has been my experience that side laterals have increased the width of my shoulder girdle immensely. Isnt bodybuilding all about illusion??
Similar to a guy who has enormous lats. The wider the lats the thinner the waist looks. Its all an illusion. If power is what you seek, then presses maybe the way to go.

I will go back to dbel presses in a month or so to see if it really does make a difference, but dumbell only, never barbell presses again. Not worth the risk. Also, if presses are something you must do, try them at the end of your workout. Not only are you pre fatigued, but your shoulders will be sufficiently warmed up by then.

 

[Scaggs]

Man clean and jerks and over head presses rock. My two favorites. The've done wonders for developing my shoulders. My rear heads get all the work they need from seated rows and bent rows. I don't do any isolation movements for my rear head and they seem to be the most developed area on my shoulder. All from compound movements. Interesting....

Scaggs

 

[JOKER47]

It has been my experience that side laterals have increased the width of my shoulder girdle immensely.

I would agree with that. I believe that side laterals are the only excercise that hits your medial (top?) heads directly. Those make up a good portion of what would give you the "wide" look.

But for me, nothing hits the front head like overhead presses.


.02,
Joker

 

[b fold the truth]

you can't neglect the awesome impact standing overhead presses will have on your entire shoulder girdle. raises are a nice complimentary exercise to the core pressing movements.

I agree...I want to grow all over. I don't want to just work the shoulders or delts...I want to be big all freakin' over.

B True

 

[coolcolj]

clean grip upright rows to sternum = laterals with more weight


more weight = good!