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Want Huge Shoulders, Drop The Presses - Hit The Raises!!!

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For all who have posted threads as too the enigma of achieving shoulder girth please allow me too share my thoughts.

First, just like any other large bodypart, the shoulder needs and can certainly handle its own separate day!! Your shoulders are involved in just about every single excersise you do!

I have for the last 5 months cut out shoulder pressing movements. I have discovered that training in a 3D fashion has greatly improved the overall symmetry and shape of my shoulders.

Simply, I incorporate Lateral raises, Front raises and Bent over rear raises and thats it. Side laterals being the king of all movements. If you bench as hard as I do, especially on Inclines, It is overkill in my opinion to incorporate an overrated movement such as shoulder presses. In fact more injuries occur performing this than any other shoulder movement.

Laterals need to be performed very strict. I do them one arm at a time w/one hand holding my squat rack and leaning slightly so that the weight pulls me away from the rack. No swing just controlled lifts slightly above shoulder level and a slow descent. This should be the premis for all lateral movements.

I would like to stress the importance of rear bent over raises. Have you ever seen a guy who looks impressive from the front and back but looses luster from the side. Remember that shoulders are multi faceted. They need to be done hard and consistantly to achieve a well rounded shoulder girdle.

I do:

6 sets of lateral starting w/ 20's for a warmup and going to 50's on my 4th
the 5th and 6th set are done on an incline bench w/ one side leaning against the bench and performing 12 strict reps a side.

4 sets of 12 rear raises w/ a wieght thats agonizing on the last 2 or 3

lastly front raises( single arm) raising up to chin level and lowering to tops of thighs to keep tension on the muscle.

Thats it. Word of caution!!! do this at least 3 days before or after doing chest. This has worked for me. My shoulders are the best part of my body. I will post pictures soon to illustrate. Hope this helps.
 
good post.. I agree with you with regard to experienced lifters seeking further development. However, for the beginner (0-3 yrs) I am convinved that heavy FRONT shoulder presses will give overall development to the upper body and shoulders as it is a powerful compound movement.
 
to a point i believe that you are right.

although you should be doing some kind of shoulder press.
Everyone is different,
 
good post, very informative from your own experience. I personally like to press with a camber bar to I do not strain my neck and hav a nice linear movement and then go to raises.. Your comment about rear delts is absolutely true, keep it up
 
Clean grip upright rows to sternum are much better IMO, strict or power version using legs to help.

It hits the rear delts and traps nicely too, especially the power version, since you lean slightly forward and the angle of pull is slightly up and back like a hnag clean. With the power version you can use some serious weight and then fight the negative down, and its a good assistance exercise for the hang clean. Also the front delts are not used much, which is good if you want to do em on the same day you do Chest work.
The results can be seen in my next batch of before and afters - serious cannonballage!

Laterals are too light

In any case the front delts are overworked IMO, you don't need to train the front delts, they will grow as is.
If you have seen my Before and afters for the last 2 months, where I hardly worked my shoudlers directly at all, you can see they still grew.
 
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I wholeheartedly agree! Shoulder presses place more pressure on the rotator-cuff than any other exercise, thus your chances of developing a shoulder injury increase exponentially when you incorporate them into your workout -- especially on top of heavy bench presses or inclines. I found out the hard way. I jumped right into heavy overhead presses a few years ago. The result was that after a few weeks of big jumps in resistance, I started to experience sharp pains directly in my deltoid. It was caused by, luckily, nothing more than a strained tendon, and I didn't have to stay away from the gym for more than two weeks, but I've never done shoulder presses since, and I can't say I miss them. My shoulders have grown just fine without 'em.

Lateral raises, of course, will always be seen by self-proclaimed strongmen as less important, vital, or prodoctive than shoulder presses because of their status as an isolation exercise, but IMO they are the best deltoid developers out there...
 
I have been training for 9 years now...doing mainly only overhead presses...and my shoulders continue to get bigger and stronger.

B True
 
My shoulders need heavy overhead presses combined with laterals to grow, I've tried it every other way and its the only approach that works for me
 
shoulders

After a doing military presses i dont get anything but tired, but after a set of front raises my shoulders get a pump
 
My biceps get a pump from concentration curls too...and even jumping rope...doesn't mean that they are going to get big from it.

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