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[manny78]

manny78 you seem to know about ferraris as well, what do you think of the new custom one off p4/5 built by pinnafarina on an enzo chassis?

Very hard to decide and very contreversial. Basically you're ruining an Enzo chassis but on the other hand, you get something unique since Pinnafarina is like the Dali of the car industry. If I had an Enzo and a FXX, I'd probably sacrifice the Enzo. Please note that the local Ferrari said they would ban anyone going through this process lol

 

[wutangnomo]

The Veyron will do what the FXX and Murcielago can do together. The FXX is more about the racing program and challenge races between owners since you own the car but it remains under Ferrari's hands except for the events.

Performance specs of the FXX are kept under tight lips, so how can you say the Veyron is that much better considering the FXX is a super-Enzo?

FXX owners own the car and can take them wherever they please. Mind you, owners do have the option of keeping it at the Ferrari plant. How do I know this? Because I know the guy in Toronto that owns an FXX (and an Enzo). Want to know how much he pays a month for it?

 

[manny78]

not all fxx's are kept at ferrari. theres a dealer in florida who drives his around with dealer plates and i saw penskes fxx at ferrari of central new jersey a few months ago at an f1 party. damn when they started that bitch up inside the showroom, the windows almost blew out, lol

Dealer must be lucky and well Penske.... is Penske. But here they had trailers waiting for the cars after the race. Even Lawrence Stroll (former owner of Tommy Hillfiger and current owner of the Montreal Ferrari dealer) had to send his FXX away.

 

[manny78]

Performance specs of the FXX are kept under tight lips, so how can you say the Veyron is that much better considering the FXX is a super-Enzo?

FXX owners own the car and can take them wherever they please. Mind you, owners do have the option of keeping it at the Ferrari plant. How do I know this? Because I know the guy in Toronto that owns an FXX (and an Enzo). Want to know how much he pays a month for it?

FXX is an Enzo engine with little restrictions (800-850hp). Specs are everywhere. No big secret. Veyron is a W16 8L rocket that delivers insane specs in a street legal package. Jeremy Clarkson had it tested I believe. A little after he had the opportunity to test the Veyron

"From behind the wheel of a Veyron, France is the size of a small coconut. I cannot tell you how fast I crossed it the other day. Because you simply wouldn’t believe me. I also cannot tell you how good this car is. I just don’t have the vocabulary. I just end up stammering and dribbling and talking wide-eyed nonsense. And everyone thinks I’m on drugs.

This car cannot be judged in the same way that we judge other cars. It meets drive-by noise and emission regulations and it can be driven by someone whose only qualification is an ability to reverse round corners and do an emergency stop. So technically it is a car. And yet it just isn’t.

Other cars are small guesthouses on the front at Brighton and the Bugatti is the Burj Al Arab. It makes even the Enzo and the Porsche Carrera GT feel slow and pointless. It is a triumph for lunacy over common sense, a triumph for man over nature and a triumph for Volkswagen over absolutely every other car maker in the world."

November 27, 2005 ( http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12529-1890873_2,00.html )

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There're actually 3 FXX in Canada (or at least sold to Canadians): Stroll, Guy Laliberté and Michael Lee-Chin (dunno if he lives in TO). You know one of these gentleman ?

 

[Bruce]

i dont mean to rain on your story but having a cgt and an enzo is shit compared to ralph laurens collection. dude, hes got 3 mclaren f1's including one of the 5 lm versions, a carrera gt, ferrari gto, 250 testarossa, bugatti type 57SC atlantic coupe, jaguar XKD, a porsche 550 spyder and a ton of other rare old race cars and modern day supercars.

also the cgt doesnt cost anywhere near 600k to a million, you could get one for around 350k now and even when they first came out they were not much over 400k. the enzo on the other hand, you can pick up a used one for between 900k-1.5 mill.

well you are very wrong indeed my friend. first off yes they list a cgt at 350 but find me one for less than 600, and a black one at that. yes you might be able to get a banana yellow for 400 gs but that is as low as you will find. these are not my cars they are my friends so i have no reason to brag or get into it. but i will tell you he has driven everything and has had everything. the only car stock he has had that was faster than an enzo was a mercedes clk gtr which ran 8 second 1/4 mile. the bugatti is an amazing machine and he is in the process of acquiring one. 0-185 in 13 seconds. pretty sweet. ralph lauren's collection is pathetic in comparison to my friends. i'm just telling you what he has said, he's never let me drive anything more than his 911 turbo or modena. the enzo and gt are never touched by anyone but him or his brother. when he had a ferrari F 40 that was a sweet car and the saleen s7 as i said was amazing and the closest to a race car but it had problems. a porsche will last forever and ferraris are pretty well built

 

[manny78]

well you are very wrong indeed my friend. first off yes they list a cgt at 350 but find me one for less than 600, and a black one at that. yes you might be able to get a banana yellow for 400 gs but that is as low as you will find. these are not my cars they are my friends so i have no reason to brag or get into it. but i will tell you he has driven everything and has had everything. the only car stock he has had that was faster than an enzo was a mercedes clk gtr which ran 8 second 1/4 mile. the bugatti is an amazing machine and he is in the process of acquiring one. 0-185 in 13 seconds. pretty sweet. ralph lauren's collection is pathetic in comparison to my friends. i'm just telling you what he has said, he's never let me drive anything more than his 911 turbo or modena. the enzo and gt are never touched by anyone but him or his brother. when he had a ferrari F 40 that was a sweet car and the saleen s7 as i said was amazing and the closest to a race car but it had problems. a porsche will last forever and ferraris are pretty well built

Just found one for you: Black Basalt with Terracota interior for 424k. They had 2 others pre-owned GTs one Silver (395k) and one Yellow (359k).

Sewickley Porsche
Ohio River & Chestnut Street

 

[mesco]

Just found one for you: Black Basalt with Terracota interior for 424k. They had 2 others pre-owned GTs one Silver (395k) and one Yellow (359k).

Sewickley Porsche
Ohio River & Chestnut Street

thank you manny. i knew what i was talking about cause my boy just bought a silver one and i was helping him look for it.

sorry bruce youre a good bro, i love your posts on the AS board and you are very knowledgable about that shit but cars is my shit. ralph lauren has a sick collection and he enters 1-2 of his super rare cars every year at concourse events and always walks away with the #1 spot. not too long ago some museum in boston had part of his collection on display for a while, has your boy ever had part of his collection displayed in a museum?

 

[mesco]

speaking of vettes and cgt's, check out this video....

http://turboflix.com/7D6F0275-8CEC-4734-BCC4-304A74154498

 

[Bruce]

thank you manny. i knew what i was talking about cause my boy just bought a silver one and i was helping him look for it.

sorry bruce youre a good bro, i love your posts on the AS board and you are very knowledgable about that shit but cars is my shit. ralph lauren has a sick collection and he enters 1-2 of his super rare cars every year at concourse events and always walks away with the #1 spot. not too long ago some museum in boston had part of his collection on display for a while, has your boy ever had part of his collection displayed in a museum?

yes actually many of his cars have been in magazines and what not. he owned the first renntech CL 63 twin turbo mercedes in the u.s. my friend is not as famous as ralph lauren so he is not going to do things like that. but there is just no way you can beat his car collection it is filled with the latest greatest cars no matter what at all times. its the only thing he cares about. jay leno is the only person i know of that beats this guy. really doesnt matter. if he were on here he could explain why he likes each one more than the other. i just get to look at them and ive driven some of his lower end cars like the audi rs6 the 911 turbo and his modena. my favorite car he had personally was the Saleen as i said but it was a piece of garbage. when he gets the bugatti i think i'll be impressed but if it were up to me i'd get a gallardo. the bugatti W-16 is one badass engine.

 

[wootoom]

fuck i needed help with a viper or vette not fuckin bugattis and shit. i saw a Carrera GT the otherday.