Vertical Leap training thread

[coolcolj]

not everyone can run the 100m under 10secs, not everyone can jump over 40inches,
but yet people who bump up their squat the right way can run faster and jump higher, that is all

Ever see an elite thrower or olylifter just jump without even having to take a step? They can cover some ground and the throwers all tend to be over 230lbs. Because they can generate force without the need for momentuem. That comes from pure strength and Rate of force development

I can actually jump pretty high with no arm swing, because I have the strength to do so.
Imagine if that guy did have strength the go with his reactivity, he'd jump even higher! Some people are just born with the right genes, for the rest of us it takes a more intelligent approach

Plus being strong helps in other areas too - without stronger legs, your going to be able to use higher drops for alttitude drops or depth jumps without getting hurt

 

[KOArtist]

anyone seen or tried these? http://www.kineticfootwear.com/

 

[KOArtist]

on a similar note, are there any good shoes for increasing vert? I have some pretty comfy adidas basketball/cross training shoes, but something tells me that soft comfortable feeling is meaning Im losing a lot of force when I jump. CoolColJ???

 

[coolcolj]

Just wear something comfortable!

Spend the money on some nice shoes for squatting and doing depth jumps instead

I just don't think the 1-2 inches you may get, if any at all would make much of a difference in the scheme of things. But the company will get rich though...

there is no substitue for hard intelligent training

 

[Raptorel]

The fact is, wearing confortable shoes is not what you really want. When you are trying to jump as high as possible, these kind of shoes will loose up the force and you will jump lower.

 

[KOArtist]

so whats some good "jumping shoes"? And if anybody tried those soles let us know. peace

 

[Lazar]

ccj, i had a question regarding bodyfat and vertical jump. I weigh about 186 lbs with about 15%bf. My running vertical is 31 inches. Now, if I lost 5%bf without losing any power, what kind of increase in vj can i expect?

 

[coolcolj]

ccj, i had a question regarding bodyfat and vertical jump. I weigh about 186 lbs with about 15%bf. My running vertical is 31 inches. Now, if I lost 5%bf without losing any power, what kind of increase in vj can i expect?

VJ not as much, running jump much more.
hard to say, it's different for every person, because some people lose power as they get leaner due to muscle loss and changes in body mechanics etc

I know someone who lost 20lbs and only gained 4inches on the VJ, went from 220 to 200lbs

Whereas I have gained an inch for every 2-3lbs I have lost in the past. I know I lose 2inches of jump height for every 5lbs I add to my bodyweight

But the thing is, just because lighter doesn't mean you'll jump higher, if you can't move your bodyweight any faster than before.

 

[Raptorel]

Check out my new site about vertical training. I wrote 5 articles already in my forum, momentairely about biology actually rather than vertical jump training. But give it a try and see if the articles are ok . Sorry if you think I'm advertising but I need as much people's oppinion if I am doing fine or if I need to change anything.

 

[elukas]

Raptorel -

How the heck do we check out your site without any way of getting there?

CoolColJ -

Great training log. Being that vertical is my obsession, I'm like a pig in #### even if I already read a lot of these articles. I'm glad I finally found it. Thanks for taking the time.

Interesting how much hops you gain from losing weight. I have been thinking about cutting down (not that I'm remotely fat) lately in order to get a better power/weight ratio. If you think about how much lower you would jump if you were holding a 25 lb olympic plate in your hands, it makes you start to wonder about what a lighter, more powerful you could do

Re: springbak springsoles

Don't expect anything but a lighter wallet. And maybe 5 grams of placebo effect, but I've probably ruined that too by saying this. Do a real objective measurement and I doubt you'll find 1 extra cm. I didn't and believe me I thought they were working, until I took the time to actually test them. And I've tried 2 pairs just in case you think I'm being overly critical. They urge you to use a double jump test, which you're not used to and probably more susceptible to try to give a little extra effort for the springsoles than without vs. a real vertical jump where it's very obvious if you've gained anything or not. If these were truly giving people 3 inches on their jumps, the big boys and many college players would be willing to shell out 10-100x this much for them.

There's no magic vj pills boys.

Let's keep working.

-Erik