Using test to reveal shut down and get prescribed test

[Mylifemydecisions]

If you don't have anything to contribute just buzz off. I don't need a lecture on my choice here, I don't care to hear your opinion if it differs from mine. I don't want to come off test ever again I know the positives and negatives of this decision.

I am currently on a test cycle with arimidex, when the duration of the cycle is up I will lower to TRT dose. I will then complain to the doctor of suspicion of low T, I will use test p for a few weeks leading up to this as it has the shortest half life. I will use arimidex as well during this time as well.

I plan to make the appointment to do blood work and stop test prop a week before. I will continue using adex for that week. When I go in I want it to appear that I am shut down. Can anybody confirm if this will or will not work?

 

[EZ_E]

Depends on a lot of factors bossman. Age, lifestyle, even diet can contribute.

And chill out with the attitude.

 

[polarbear1134]

Most the hormone clinics don't require it to be low anyway just for your to report the symptoms. There is no need to lie to a endo when you can just go to a clinic and get what you want anyway.

 

[Mylifemydecisions]

I am 35, I drink about once a month... Never smoke, never take any kinds of drugs. I am 210, 15%ish 5'10. Truth is I love the fitness lifestyle, and I live for it... I don't party or go out much. I eat clean, I don't count macros, the last year or so would best be described as a clean bulk as far as diet goes.

 

[Mylifemydecisions]

Most the hormone clinics don't require it to be low anyway just for your to report the symptoms. There is no need to lie to a endo when you can just go to a clinic and get what you want anyway.

It seems hard to believe that it is as simple as reporting the symptoms of low t to get test c prescribed....

 

[stevesmi]

nobody can confirm jack

its all dependent on WHO you go to. a lot of dr's will prescribe you a topical, that's where the big bucks are for docs and drug companies. and that is damn easy to get

 

[Mylifemydecisions]

I was told that if I express I am around "a pregnant women, and children often" that the doctor would HAVE to give me injectables because the topicals could rub on them and affect them

None the less, will my protocol of getting onto the prop ester, then stopping pins a week before, continuing adex and then going to do blood work confirm that I am shut down? Will there be any way for the Doc to see what I have intentionally done if this does work?

 

[polarbear1134]

Test Cyp has a long half life. So lets use an example of 400 a week.
1 week after you stop taking it you still have 200 from the last shot and some from the shot before so you would not show low even if you were 100% suppressed.

http://www.medibolics.com/images/frequenc.jpg

Note: Taking the test 1st thing in the morning like they like makes the result the highest...if you are awake for about 6-7 hrs before taking the test it tends to drop your score by as much as 20% assuming you are reading natural production and not injected level.

In addition a true endo will likely make you have a RN train you how to properly inject the stuff and demonstrate it several weeks in arrow before letting you even leave with the vial...they tend also to blood test you every month for a couple months while they fine tune the dose then move out to every 6 months... at least this has been my experience in the 18 years I have had an endo for all 4 different ones of them. (they keep retiring)

wow can't spell for crap tonight

 

[alcatraz1662]

If you don't have anything to contribute just buzz off. I don't need a lecture on my choice here, I don't care to hear your opinion if it differs from mine. I don't want to come off test ever again I know the positives and negatives of this decision.



I am currently on a test cycle with arimidex, when the duration of the cycle is up I will lower to TRT dose. I will then complain to the doctor of suspicion of low T, I will use test p for a few weeks leading up to this as it has the shortest half life. I will use arimidex as well during this time as well.



I plan to make the appointment to do blood work and stop test prop a week before. I will continue using adex for that week. When I go in I want it to appear that I am shut down. Can anybody confirm if this will or will not work?

I'm just gonna bump this for all the scientist bros we got here. But other than that, u can def go fuck yourself with that attitude.

 

[usmc718]

I can confirm about being around children and others and requesting injections. The only issue was in the beginning and a RN trying to show me how and where to inject.

Other than that I agree with Alcatraz you need to tone it down.

 

[Mylifemydecisions]

I'm just gonna bump this for all the scientist bros we got here. But other than that, u can def go fuck yourself with that attitude.

That attitude is because every other forum I have been to, requesting the information I am looking for has flamed me. It is really nothing personal lol

 

[usmc718]

You should lead with that next time. You'll find there are assholes on any boards but you need to weed through the BS as some of us will answer your questions.

 

[Stackinplates]

Shoot my doctor gave me a script a bag of pins and said have fun .. Was nervous my first time watched a you tube video and been Cruzen on TRT Ever since

 

[EZ_E]

Re-reading the original post;

You need to stop test LONG before a week before the blood test.

 

[Mylifemydecisions]

As of right now my plan is to finish off my cycle of test c

I will wait for the amount of time that one would wait until pct I think it is 14 days for test c? I will continue taking adex during this time.

Then I will go in to take the test, I'll take a private lab test a day or 2 before to make sure test levels are getting near/under the 300 mark.

I plan to have test prop and suspension on hand. After I take this test I will go home and pin test prop and test suspension(seperately) so I can get up to a manageable level to not feel like shit.

Things are still foggy, but I am starting to see exactly what I will need to do more clearly. I'm going to try to do it through one of these online hormone clincs... I am thinking this may be an easier route than through a physician.

 

[usmc718]

Thank God! Honestly it wasn't making sense why you would do it any other was in your case. EZE was right btw, good luck.

 

[Aplopez8]

Use a pro hormone

 

[Mylifemydecisions]

Use a pro hormone

Can you go more in depth here? Do you understand I am currently on test?

It seems unnecessary for me to use a ph to shut myself down when I will already be shut down coming off test

 

[stevesmi]

That attitude is because every other forum I have been to, requesting the information I am looking for has flamed me. It is really nothing personal lol

remember there are people out there who really do need TRT who would find what you are doing similar to parking in a handicapped zone when you aren't handicapped

If I was you I would just self TRT if you really want it this bad. you can buy a years worth of test for the same price of having to go to the doctors and do all that nonsense

 

[Mylifemydecisions]

F that, while I will agree that I am manipulating the system to get what I want; this is a victimless "crime". Pharmacies will not run out of Test the way parking lots would run out of handicap spots if I were running around like a dbag with a handicap tag.

As far as self-prescribing trt..... There is too many possible risks. Government could start shutting down UGLs for instance, or I could get bunk gear... I feel Ill inevitability have to do what I am doing now, or I will end up in the ER explaining to a doc what I have done and then prescribed trt would be out of the question for good.

 

[Mylifemydecisions]

Just spoke to a hormone replacement center rep.... Everything is starting to fall into place.

Making my order for a couple bottles of TNE and test prop right now for the shut down haha



I will keep this forum posted since I actually got decent feedback and didn't get flamed the way other forums did

Still accepting feedback on how to make things go any smoother

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Just go in to a your doctor and tell them you are depressed, no libido and are getting fat.... they will run blood work and then when you go back, just tell them you think your test is low...

They should refer you to a urologist and they will do more testing and 90% of the time, you are getting Androgel....

Just tell them you want injectable test...

 

[Mylifemydecisions]

JMO, don't crash your test and mess with yourself like that . A trt clinic is not going to deny you unless your level is way too high , and in that case I would just be honest and tell them your were self prescribing and trying it out and now want a medical guidance . Play the game / system accordingly . Don't mess yourself up screwing around with your hormones . I think you can have the best of both worlds here if you play it right .

In this case, what would I want to lower my test c weekly dosage to reveal low test, without completely dropped the test and crashing to virtually nothing?

See I am on a cycle now, it seems to me that I am better off manipulating the test c, along with the test prop and test base that is on the way to make the blood work read what I want it to.

I dont even have pct stuff on hand, but my cycle is estimated to go for another 10 weeks and I could easily acquire it.... But Id rather not waste the dough.

 

[EZ_E]

F that, while I will agree that I am manipulating the system to get what I want; this is a victimless "crime". Pharmacies will not run out of Test the way parking lots would run out of handicap spots if I were running around like a dbag with a handicap tag.

As far as self-prescribing trt..... There is too many possible risks. Government could start shutting down UGLs for instance, or I could get bunk gear... I feel Ill inevitability have to do what I am doing now, or I will end up in the ER explaining to a doc what I have done and then prescribed trt would be out of the question for good.

Valid points.

 

[polarbear1134]

F that, while I will agree that I am manipulating the system to get what I want; this is a victimless "crime". Pharmacies will not run out of Test the way parking lots would run out of handicap spots if I were running around like a dbag with a handicap tag.

As far as self-prescribing trt..... There is too many possible risks. Government could start shutting down UGLs for instance, or I could get bunk gear... I feel Ill inevitability have to do what I am doing now, or I will end up in the ER explaining to a doc what I have done and then prescribed trt would be out of the question for good.

You left out that there is an attack out there on all people on trt due to people faking and getting it that don't need it. Every week some politician wants to stop it for everyone because of someone on it that should not be. If you get it banned for those who legitimately need it, then it would be far from a victimless crime.