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UGL's dropping like flies, the fallout continues ---BEWARE!

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georgie24

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thats it domestic UGL's are going to be histrory within the next year, anyone recieving anything from new jersey area clean fucking house ASAP. Open availabilty of raw powders led to the demise of the UGL game. incase you was under a rock within last past year most of the powder traders/companies were raided in cooperation with USA LEO's and client data bases were seized...

Heads are still rolling to this day and will continue until god knows when.


its a very very bad time bro's



stay safe and most important stay SMART!
 
but last year 300 metric tons of cociane came into the united states via planes and boats and i'm sure with the right connections any powder will make it through .
 
buffalo said:
There's new powder sources already up,i guess no one here heard yet. Lots of ug's already are getting back up to full production again.
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the best and most reputable are folding as we speak, lots of UGLS are choosing different career paths.

" lots of UGL's"

LMAO! its going to be a scammers paradise
 
expect a ug lab owner to close shop drop down to a buck fifty and flip burgers?
for a living......
its already a scammers paradise but yea i can see it getting much worse
also
 
chazk said:
expect a ug lab owner to close shop drop down to a buck fifty and flip burgers?
for a living......
its already a scammers paradise but yea i can see it getting much worse
also
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theres already one report of a suicide, gen labs or something along those lines. most of these bro's do it fulltime with nothing to fall back on, not even a career!
 
georgie24 said:
that or europe


however the powder game is OVER for good for the average homebrewer
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It isn't here. Just like the posts above stated India and Europe are red hot ;) I haven't any experience with Indian materials but I know power is flowing like water out of Europe (namely the former USSR states).
 
Fuck india and fuck china. I said a long time ago. We need American home made high quality powders. :)
 
GEN PHARMA the dude supposedly killed himself - fuck him thats sissy shit

I think europe will pick it up
India has shitty powders and reputability
 
I disagree, I think these labs are closingf because of pressure from LE. Their ties to research companies being how these labs are getting busted or running for cover.
 
lartinos said:
I disagree, I think these labs are closingf because of pressure from LE. Their ties to research companies being how these labs are getting busted or running for cover.
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Heat from LE is a big factor in why some are choosing to shut down. The powder situation did shut alot down but it's not like powder is impossible to get,there are still several sources that are carrying it and it's getting in just fine.
 
OldTimer69 said:
who cares if the ugls get shutdown, we have the roid store to fill the void.. am i rite??!?!?!?!
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You mean that guy in the lab coat isn't a real doctor?
 
georgie24 said:
theres already one report of a suicide, gen labs or something along those lines. most of these bro's do it fulltime with nothing to fall back on, not even a career!
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gen labs?
 
DJ_UFO said:
Fuck india and fuck china. I said a long time ago. We need American home made high quality powders. :)
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Yea fuck out sourcing over seas. keep jobs here. Im kidding.
 
My opinion is you can get anything if you try hard enough and pay enough so powders are and will remain available its just that they are harder to obtain. This means the barrier to entry for a lot of the kitchen chemists is a lot higher as are the risks. If you add the focus of the LE then many have decided the cost v's benefit does not now stack up especially for the USA domestics

The whole source game will be driven back underground (not a bad thing in my opinion) but prices will rise over what people have enjoyed the last 2-3 years.

People have to realise the commodity they are buying and the laws surrounding that commodity. As with any business the bigger labs will get bigger as a lot of the competition will fall away

Wrongun!
 
buffalo said:
What the hell is that supposed to mean?,i'd like to know.
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I'm kind of curious as well. Buffalo has always been a good bro around here as long as I can remember. Fill us in. Are you telling people to stay clear of him because you know something or just because he disagreed w/ you earlier?
 
holy ghost said:
GEN PHARMA the dude supposedly killed himself - fuck him thats sissy shit

I think europe will pick it up
India has shitty powders and reputability
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Really?

India is one of the major providers of generic pharmaceutical drugs.

They are such a threat to the BIG pharmas, they are trying to shut them down.

x
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buffalo said:
There's new powder sources already up,i guess no one here heard yet. Lots of ug's already are getting back up to full production again.
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i agree, i know of some ugl's that shut down for a couple weeks while they got there new powder connects and are already gtg again....
 
If you look hard enough you can find the powders. I know a guy, who knows a guy thats cousins, sisters, brother-in-law hooked up with a powder source in China. The source was able to stock exactly what the guy wanted with no problem and said that he would not be going anywhere anytime soon.
 
if any of you guys sources takes cash in the mail i would run and run fast the other way!

that source in NOT safe hence putting all you in DANGER!
 
i always wondered why the hell a source would take cash.. Seems like Georgie has his finger on the pulse. Thanks bro!
 
you all love dirt cheap cut throat pricing and sources who take cash in the mail.

choose quality and proven sources!!!!!!
 
Can someone explain why cash in the post is bad? IMHO this is the only non traceable way and also not illegal to do (so you can claim back if it goes missing)

WU etc etc keep records and accounts held so basically evidence.

Can someone enlighten me please?

Wrongun!
 
because cash has to be physically picked up, therefore if LE does an undercover buy they can sit on the receiver's address and wait for it to be picked up and bust the guy.
 
lartinos said:
I disagree, I think these labs are closingf because of pressure from LE. Their ties to research companies being how these labs are getting busted or running for cover.
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thats how there getting them now...finding out who is buying up shit loads of vials and oil.lol
 
OldTimer69 said:
because cash has to be physically picked up, therefore if LE does an undercover buy they can sit on the receiver's address and wait for it to be picked up and bust the guy.
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If using multiple addies, how can WU be much safer, as WU, keep records.
 
i would only do cash, if i got anything, no paper at all, no fees, i dont know i guess im naive and think that it would be safer this way than any other, I think if they take paypal id be worried lol
 
I prefer writing a check.
 
So money grahm to out of the country is safe right?..and then the product is shipped domestically? to someone else's addy of course... :)
 
Hmm I hate reading shit like this but I guess since other drugs arent extinct neither will this shit. So its just making it harder for everyone or just to buy powders and do homebrewing? Im kinda confused.
 
best way to go is a source that is based out of cuntry but has re mailers in the stats.most of the benefits of an over seas source with most of the benefits of a domestic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p :p :p :p :p :evil: :evil: :evil: :) :) :)
 
Needto is right I believe.
Any opinions on greendot moneypaks? I've done it twice and none of my personal information was collected.
 
Wrongun said:
Can someone explain why cash in the post is bad? IMHO this is the only non traceable way and also not illegal to do (so you can claim back if it goes missing)

WU etc etc keep records and accounts held so basically evidence.

Can someone enlighten me please?

Wrongun!
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It's not bad at all if used properly. All the sources i use take cash but they will only take cash after they get to know you,that way it's not that risky. I think it's stupid to say never use a source that accepts cash,some of the best out there do it.
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
Needto is right I believe.
Any opinions on greendot moneypaks? I've done it twice and none of my personal information was collected.
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Greendot is what most domestic guy's i know are using now,it's simple and easy.
 
greendot is very safe for the buyer.......

if you really feel like it you could send someone else in to buy the money pak they only accept cash
 
georgie24 said:
why so hard to figure out what i said? its a scammers paradise... if your not sourcing why are so so worried?
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I'm not worried since i'm not a source but i don't fucking like people telling other that they shouldn't ask me questions. The way you said it makes it sound like you were calling me a fed or a scammer,got any proof?,if not don't post shit.
 
i just got a email back from a source i used once saying hes out on bail.. dont email him.. thats very reassuring.. lab starts with an H
 
georgie24 said:
hhmm your very cavalier,


i wont mention it again.
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Why are you being an ass again georgie?
 
georgie24 said:
theres already one report of a suicide, gen labs or something along those lines. most of these bro's do it fulltime with nothing to fall back on, not even a career!
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ya I heard about that one. thats a shame, he was a good bro. I used his stuff on my first cycle.
 
errn247 said:
Why are you being an ass again georgie?
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Bro, Georgie has not been known to be a diplomat. But, he usually sees shit coming before others here do. I am not at all implying that he's right about his implications. But, he is one of the few people that are really "In the know" ...
I value his posts.
 
buffalo said:
It's not bad at all if used properly. All the sources i use take cash but they will only take cash after they get to know you,that way it's not that risky. I think it's stupid to say never use a source that accepts cash,some of the best out there do it.
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LOL YOU KILL ME MAN

MOST THAT "HAVE DONE IT" ARE NO LONGER AROUND ( CASH IN THE MAIL)

THE SOURCES WITH THE LONGESTEST LONGEVITY NEVER TAKE CASH IN THE MAIL.
 
georgie24 said:
LOL YOU KILL ME MAN

MOST THAT "HAVE DONE IT" ARE NO LONGER AROUND ( CASH IN THE MAIL)

THE SOURCES WITH THE LONGESTEST LONGEVITY NEVER TAKE CASH IN THE MAIL.
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I of one that used to do it thats still around but I think he has stopped doing it like that...first time I was asked to send cash in the mail I was like "ya fucking right kiss my ass I ant sending shit in the mail."I just would not do it.the source wanted the cash so he took wu or nothing at all.
 
if any source or new source is still taking cash in the mail he/she is asking for his career in the business cut very short and in extreme danger. you guys know how it feels like to sit in jail being held without bail because you think your a badass domestic UG lab that manufactures illigal steroids/distrubutes/consprires/money launders and gets popped for being sloppy and waiving his anonynmousness by givig up thier location for a measily 100.00 order?
 
georgie24 said:
if any source or new source is still taking cash in the mail he/she is asking for his career in the business cut very short and in extreme danger. you guys know how it feels like to sit in jail being held without bail because you think your a badass domestic UG lab that manufactures illigal steroids/distrubutes/consprires/money launders and gets popped for being sloppy and waiving his anonynmousness by givig up thier location for a measily 100.00 order?
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cash in the mail means he has to pic it up at the address its sent to..witch means a pin pointed location...kind of dumb dont you think...wu means he can pic up the cash any where in the world..
 
needtogetaas said:
cash in the mail means he has to pic it up at the address its sent to..witch means a pin pointed location...kind of dumb dont you think...wu means he can pic up the cash any where in the world..
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well..........whatever sending city he puts on the sheet or calls to change is where the money will be sent. CIM is rarely used in the current time as too many guys have been busted for this reason. It was pretty common place not all that long ago though. Putting any kind of tips for sending money on an open message board seems pretty silly to me to even talk about. This type of talk should really only be used via e-mail. All you really need to say is that CIM is dangerous to the receiver.
 
Greendot is the absolute best way to go nowadays, it puts Wester Union to shame....


Western Union is still risky because the source has to keep going to WU to pick up funds and it is tracked in a data base with records..



Greendot can be done by you single handedly simply by delivering your pack #.... No WU employees, No records, No 10% wire fees.....



Any other form of transfering nowadays seems outragous to me
 
needtogetaas said:
mtcn # is all you need it ont matter were it is sent....

and wtf ever act like i am posting some big trade secret lmfao.
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agreed....

There is no secret to be held, the law knows the game almost as good as the dealers do if not better.
 
georgie24 said:
if any source or new source is still taking cash in the mail he/she is asking for his career in the business cut very short and in extreme danger. you guys know how it feels like to sit in jail being held without bail because you think your a badass domestic UG lab that manufactures illigal steroids/distrubutes/consprires/money launders and gets popped for being sloppy and waiving his anonynmousness by givig up thier location for a measily 100.00 order?
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That is simply not true in my honest opinion. I have been around years and in fact the ones that take cash are the ones that are still around. Not because the don't use WU etc mainly because they do not advertiose their illegal trade all over the net!

The organised ones never have cash, stock and sending facilities in the same place.

Cash is not illegal to send in the post and can be sent to a number of different addresses. This means no connection to stock, cash and sending. I fail to see why this is so much more dangerous than sending via WU where records are kept and if the reciever is caught once then the authorities will be able to say how many time you have collected through WU. If reciving cash then surely it is simply what has come that day is it not?

Cash is 100% annonymous for both parties as if the reciever is raided accepting the cash then no traceback to the product. Warning is issued and operation shut. If WU then surely records can be seen going in and out and opens the whole operation up

Am i missing something here as why is cash so dangerous / security risk as sending and recieving is legal and annonymous in my mind.

Wrongun!
 
In today's Washington Post:

Agents Arrest 124 in Drug Raids
With Eye on Hosting Olympics, China Cooperates With DEA

Federal agents raided more than four dozen underground drug labs and arrested 124 people in 27 states during an 18-month crackdown....

The operation, which agents described as the largest anti-steroid action by law enforcement ever, involved cooperation among 10 nations and involved raids and arrests in Mexico, Canada, Australia, Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Sweden and Thailand, U.S. officials said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/23/AR2007092301216.html
...........................................................................

This goes a long way to explain why my guy stopped communicating with me back in June. He just sorta disappeared.
 
Wrongun said:
That is simply not true in my honest opinion. I have been around years and in fact the ones that take cash are the ones that are still around. Not because the don't use WU etc mainly because they do not advertiose their illegal trade all over the net!

The organised ones never have cash, stock and sending facilities in the same place.

Cash is not illegal to send in the post and can be sent to a number of different addresses. This means no connection to stock, cash and sending. I fail to see why this is so much more dangerous than sending via WU where records are kept and if the reciever is caught once then the authorities will be able to say how many time you have collected through WU. If reciving cash then surely it is simply what has come that day is it not?

Cash is 100% annonymous for both parties as if the reciever is raided accepting the cash then no traceback to the product. Warning is issued and operation shut. If WU then surely records can be seen going in and out and opens the whole operation up

Am i missing something here as why is cash so dangerous / security risk as sending and recieving is legal and annonymous in my mind.

Wrongun!
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agree cash is anonymous, plus no wu outrageous fees
 
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needtogetaas said:
mtcn # is all you need it ont matter were it is sent....

and wtf ever act like i am posting some big trade secret lmfao.
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sorry bro, I meant the greendot talk not you
 
needtogetaas said:
n Gear Grinder, we didn't target the end user," he said. "Now, we have investigative leads everywhere."
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That is the part that really scared me and the mentioning of intercepting thousands of emails
 
what kills me is you read these news reports and they always have pics of LE agents that you know are "ON" ...arresting "the bad guys" for a crime that they themselves are guilty of ...that's just unbelievable!!!
 
I know of at least three LEOs using. A good percentage of our state corrections officers are, too.

In their mind, its justified as an officer safety issue.
 
hstern said:
just watch Dallas SWAT on the tv, tell me those dudes and dudette arent using
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any one of those guys could piss a "roid rainbow" on the spot

It's madness!!!!!

it's like being arrested for smak

...by a stone-cold smak junkie

...WHO'S ACTUALLY HIGH ON SMAK AT THE VERY TIME HE'S ARRESTING YOU!!!!!
 
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