Tribelus during cycle? or pct???

[joe d]

just doing a little reading in a sponsor site and came across this. it looks like it could be an asset possibly in place of hcg. i have never heard any one talk about using it. any experience with the drug? any thoughts?

Tribelus (Tribulus terrestris)
Synonyms: Tribelus, Tribulus, terrestris

Description


Tribelus mechanism of action is very diverse, but basically it consists in influence directly on the person’s brain by activization of generation by hypophysis of luteinizing hormone - one of the basic intermediate substances in sexual hormones synthesis, the very hormone, which starts the long hormonal chain, ending with the natural testosterone secretion by sexual gland.

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Active Ingredients:
Tribulus terrestris


Therapeutic actions:
Active components of Tribelus mainly are steroid glycoside (saponins) of furostanol type. Tribelus contains flavonoids and alkaloids which reduce lipids level, stimulate cardiovascular system, possess mild diuretic effect. Owing to active ingradients, tribelus influences reproductive function, spermatogenesis, ovulation and sexual activity of both sexes, stimulating it, and also possesses tonic action.

What is it used for?:
1. Men’s sexual function disorder:
• hypoactive desire;
• erectile dysfunction;
• prospermia;
• endocrine disorders;
• spermatogenesis disorder;
• tonic medicine at physical and mental work load during recovery.
2.Women’s sexual function disorder:
• hypoactive desire, frigidity;
• vasomotor presentation at age-dependent or postsurgical climax;
• general weakness, sleeplessness, general distress, irritability, apathy;
• sterility;
• tonic medicine at physical and mental work load during recovery, and also for atherosclerosis prevention.

Contraindications and cautions:
Not to be taken if dehydrated. Tribelus is contraindicated in patients known to be hypersensitive to testosterone or estrogen-increasing substances. Not for use during pregnancy.

Side effects:
Tribulus Terrestris is the natural substance without any side effects.

Interactions:
The increased risk of toxicity with anti-inflammatory anesthetizing вкгпы; the antagonism with antiarrhythmic drug and potentiation of muscular weakening drugs is possible; counteracts antidiabetic medicines; interacts with antihypertensive drug; can intensify lithium therapy; when it is taken with corticosteroids, there is a risk of hypokalemia; can intensify other diuretic drugs and increase risk of hypokalemia.

 

[SouthernLord]

Trib is worthless imo

 

[RADAR]

I like to use Bulgarian Tribulis 80% Pure extract after a cycle ,as it frees up more test .

RADAR

 

[rikishi]

Tribulus works, but it depends on the protodioscin content. Most trib products do not have too much of that in it, so it won't do anything.

I've only seen one or two tribulus products with high content of protodioscin, and they're ridiculously expensive because it's hard to extract.

 

[joe d]

i didnt even realize it was just a sup. i found this in one of the online phamacies. sounds like another just ok suppliment. thanks for the replies.

 

[RADAR]

You can get some good Bulgarian Trib at NutritionExpress.com

RADAR

 

[Mr.LasVegas]

Tribulus works, but it depends on the protodioscin content. Most trib products do not have too much of that in it, so it won't do anything.

I've only seen one or two tribulus products with high content of protodioscin, and they're ridiculously expensive because it's hard to extract.

What is exactly protodioscin? Is anrogenerator the only product that contains protodioscin?

 

[*Swifto*]

What is exactly protodioscin? Is anrogenerator the only product that contains protodioscin?

There is no solid data confirming any form of Trib will raise endogenous testosterone. Thats inlcudes AndroG.

I've used it and so have many others, at MANY boards and it DOES NOT raise testosterone. There have even been bloodtests to prove it. Stay well away. Trust me. Go to other boards and ask around.

If you want to raise testosterone, use one of PP's products.

 

[RADAR]

There is no solid data confirming any form of Trib will raise endogenous testosterone. Thats inlcudes AndroG.

I've used it and so have many others, at MANY boards and it DOES NOT raise testosterone. There have even been bloodtests to prove it. Stay well away. Trust me. Go to other boards and ask around.

If you want to raise testosterone, use one of PP's products.

then explain why i get an extra kick in libido 20 minutes after taking it?

RADAR

 

[rikishi]

What is exactly protodioscin? Is anrogenerator the only product that contains protodioscin?

If a product does not list protodioscin content don't buy it. I don't think androgenerator lists it.

Some companies will fool you. Beware. For instance, they say it contains 20% protodioscin, which is an excellent percentage, but it's a BLEND of 20% protodioscin. Which means, they will blend a trib extract of 20% protodioscin with an extract of tribulus that does not have it at all. In this case, the product is not nearly as effective as they make it out to be, and frankly not worth it. You have to find a product that is purely 20% protodioscin, and not a blend of 20% protodioscin.

 

[RADAR]

Tribulus is a purported testosterone booster that is contained within many sexual aid supplements. This plant extract is said to increase the production of the sex hormone LH, which will in turn help boost testosterone. Increased levels of this hormone may offer a variety of sexual benefits, some of which may include an increased libido, shorter recovery time between erections, increased stamina and enhanced physical performance. Furthermore, for some, increased testosterone may also offer some health benefits such as fortified bones, muscles and tissues, as well as increased energy levels.

However, while we do not feel that any male sexual aid is complete without a testosterone booster, we also do not believe that Tribulus alone may provide maximum results. Ultimately, this supplement is missing a key ingredient. It does not contain Yohimbe, which is said to work well with Tribulus. Yohimbe is thought to stimulate more blood flow throughout the penis, which may then lead to firmer, longer-lasting erections. Obviously, the sexual benefits, when paired with a testosterone booster, may be quite enticing. While this supplement does not contain this combination of ingredients, there are other products on the market that do.


Another
popularized in America by 1970's strong-man Jeffrey Petermann. Independent studies [6] have suggested that Tribulus terrestris extract slightly increases hormone levels, though leaving them in the normal range.


[edit] Medicinal uses
Some have compared the tonic properties of Tribulus terrestris to the effects of ginseng, but these occur due to entirely different mechanisms. It is also claimed that Tribulus terrestris increases testosterone by increasing gonadotropin-releasing hormone with gonadotropic adaptogen compound contained in Tribulus terrestris (GnRH) which in turn stimulates the production of LH and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH). Testosterone, besides its role in muscle-building and raising fertility and libido, is known to have a positive effect on bone marrow activity (for red blood cell production) and the immune system.[citation needed]

Animal studies in rats, rabbits and primates have demonstrated that administration of Tribulus terrestris extract can produce statistically significant increases in levels of testosterone, dihydrotestosterone and dehydroepiandrosterone,[7] and produces effects suggestive of aphrodisiac activity.[8] On the other hand, one recent study found that T. terrestris caused no increase in testosterone or LH in young men,[9] and another found that a commercial supplement containing androstenedione and herbal extracts, including T. terrestris, was no more effective at raising testosterone levels than androstenedione alone.[10]

The active chemical in T. terrestris is likely to be protodioscin (PTN),[11] a cousin to DHEA. In a study with mice, Tribulus was shown to enhance mounting activity and erection better than testosterone cypionate.[citation needed] This however, is not as convincing as one might think. Although an OTC supplement outpacing a pharmaceutical is big news, testosterone cypionate is a synthetic ester of testosterone engineered for its longer activity. To be effective, its level must build up in the system of the animal using it. This process usually takes 2–3 weeks.National Institutes of Health, DailyMed: About DailyMed, retrieved on 15 November 2007 The proerectile aphrodisiac properties were concluded to likely be due to the release of nitric oxide from the nerve endings innervating the corpus cavernosum penis.

Adverse effects from supplementation with Tribulus terrestris are rare and tend to be insignificant. However, some users report an upset stomach, which can usually be counteracted by taking it with food.[6] Another rare side effect which has been reported is gynaecomastia,[12] which while potentially problematic does tend to support the purported androgenic-anabolic effects of this plant


RADAR

 

[*Swifto*]

then explain why i get an extra kick in libido 20 minutes after taking it?

RADAR

Because it does exactly that, boosts labido. Not androgen output at all.

I get a labdio boost from Trib and Tongkat Ali too.

 

[Mr.LasVegas]

then explain why i get an extra kick in libido 20 minutes after taking it?

RADAR[/QUOTE

Then it is sure worth trying!