Tren

[chris69]

For those expeiranced w/ Tren, When did you notice Neg-sides. i think i am paranoid but i know my Nips(and around) seem puffy.
( a little peak ^ when warm,*incuding the aola< SP, when cold there perfect, just nippin). I know what to run if they are, but who here can tell me there story ! It's been about a week now on it, before was the dianabol/sus...and i was fine ! 6 wks into cycle, finshing last six w/ tren.

 

[needtogetaas]

You know I never had to many problems using it.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

I nevewr had that kind of problem.
My training partner did, but it didn't develop until after his cycle.

 

[bw1]

Never had a problem.

 

[SLAYER69!]

The only side I really get from Tren is bad night sweats. I'll soak the sheets and pillow and have to drink a ton of water when I wake up.

 

[nydj66]

I love the muscle gain and hardness from tren but the sides are brutal for me.

3rd week into a tren-acetate cycle I will start to develop gyno (even if taking a shitload of letrozole), my temper is hair-triggered, acne was bad (before I did 5 months of accutane), and i feel lethargic and generally shitty.

 

[chris69]

Thank you, thats what i'm looking for. i think mostly we read about the worste things( documented more) and start to think about it to much.(head games)

 

[bencher 500]

Thank you, thats what i'm looking for. i think mostly we read about the worste things( documented more) and start to think about it to much.(head games)

I'm thinking about a cycle of tren. After i convert 2 paks in a 4gr kit here is what i was thinking,
1st wk .25cc ed
2nd wk .5cc ed
3rd wk .75cc ed
4thwk .5cc ed
5thwk .25cc ed
pct nolvedex 4wks what do you guys think?

 

[advanced-stealth]

Just night sweats for me.

 

[gladiator2]

I'm thinking about a cycle of trenbolone. After i convert 2 paks in a 4gr kit here is what i was thinking,
1st wk .25cc ed
2nd wk .5cc ed
3rd wk .75cc ed
4thwk .5cc ed
5thwk .25cc ed
PCT - post cycle therapy - nolvedex 4wks what do you guys think?

Where is the test ?might not want to run a tren only cycle.

 

[dmastrop]

killer night sweats, and shortness of breath.. were the 2 worst for me

 

[chris69]

I'm thinking about a cycle of trenbolone. After i convert 2 paks in a 4gr kit here is what i was thinking,
1st wk .25cc ed
2nd wk .5cc ed
3rd wk .75cc ed
4thwk .5cc ed
5thwk .25cc ed
PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - nolvedex 4wks what do you guys think?

Well as far as a trenbolone only some will disagree, however i know sevral HUGE BRO's that do this,( o-k i only know 3)LOL, anyway there are things you might want to run w/ it to help w/ Finaplix - trenbolone acetate - dick .(NELSON WERE ARE YA) But with that said i havnt heard of a gradual increse, What i did was start at
50 mg...then you know if you get sides there not going to be extreme, better yet my next time i will go Higher in MG but EOD because my ass is too sore, uncofortable to site on the bench at GYM,LOL..I'm A pussy !
The next thing you need to concider is the kind of kit you have, is it going to convert to 75mg per ml or 100mg per ml ? Then you will know how many CC ED to run.

 

[chestrockwell420]

i had very small bump under one of my nips, but i did tren for about 12 weeks.got some letro and all was good.when i run it a long time,then things get sore

 

[halfcenturian]

Dostinex, Letro, now.

The only sides I get from Tren is bad insomnia, mild night sweats.

You're gonna make it. Just deal with symtoms and keep going.

 

[chris69]

Dostinex, Femera - letrozole - , now.

The only sides I get from trenbolone is bad insomnia, mild night sweats.

You're gonna make it. Just deal with symtoms and keep going.

This is were im now confused, i am hearing to many Diff/things. i thought the Dostinex was for the Gyno (progesterone) But in another thread today i read it was just for lacktating nipps, and femera was for the Gyno? This doesnt make sence to me because femera is for estrogen, Yes !
Or is it that your estrogen is most likely high if you get Prog-Gyno, so we want to address that also ? 2 birds,/ 2 stones -lol.

 

[halfcenturian]

This is were im now confused, i am hearing to many Diff/things. i thought the Dostinex was for the gynecomastia (progesterone) But in another thread today i read it was just for lacktating nipps, and femera was for the gynecomastia? This doesnt make sence to me because femera is for estrogen, Yes !
Or is it that your estrogen is most likely high if you get Prog-Gyno, so we want to address that also ? 2 birds,/ 2 stones -lol.

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Here Chris. Go smoke a bowl of chill, bro!

From Mr. Anthony Roberts, Esq.

Trenbolones chemical structure makes it resistant to the aromatize enzyme (conversion to estrogen) thus absolutely no percentage of trenbolone will convert to estrogen. Trenbolone administration would not promote estrogenic side effects such as breast tissue growth in men (gynecomastia, bitch tits) accelerated fat gain, decline in fat break down and water retention trenbolone. Trenbolone is also resistant to the 5- alpha-reductase enzyme, this enzyme reduces some steroid hormones into a more androgenic form, in trenbolones case however this does not matter, trenbolone boasts an androgenic ratio of 500, it can easily cause adverse androgenic side effects in any steroid.com members who are prone cases of hair loss, prostate enlargement, oily skin and acne have been reported. Unfortunately trenbolones potential negative side effects do not end there. Trenbolone is also a noted progestin: it binds to the receptor of the female sex hormone progesterone (with about 60% of the actual strength progesterone) (17). In sensitive steroid.com members this can lead to bloat and breast growth worse still, trenbolones active metabolite17beta-trenbolone has a binding affinity to the progesterone receptor (PgR) that is actually greater than progesterone itself (18). No need to panic though, the anti-estrogens letrzole or fulvestrant can lower progesterone levels, and combat any progestenic sides. The use of a 19-nor compound like trenbolone also increases prolactin& . bromocriptine or cabergoline are often recommended to lower prolatin levels (20). Testicular atrophy (shrunken balls) may also occur; HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - used intermittently throughout a cycle can prevent this. (21) It is also wise for trenbolone users to closely monitor their cholesterol levels, as well as kidney function and liver enzymes, as Tren has the potential to negatively affect all of those functions. Trenbolone, being a powerful progestin, will also shut down natural testosterone production which even a relatively small dose and keep the testosterone level suppressed for an extended period of time, this can lower libido and cause erectile dysfunction (Finaplix - trenbolone acetate - dick). It is essential that you always stack trenbolone with testosterone.

 

[chris69]

******************************************************

Here Chris. Go smoke a bowl of chill, bro!

From Mr. Anthony Roberts, Esq.

Trenbolones chemical structure makes it resistant to the aromatize enzyme (conversion to estrogen) thus absolutely no percentage of trenbolone will convert to estrogen. Trenbolone administration would not promote estrogenic side effects such as breast tissue growth in men (gynecomastia, bitch tits) accelerated fat gain, decline in fat break down and water retention trenbolone. Trenbolone is also resistant to the 5- alpha-reductase enzyme, this enzyme reduces some steroid hormones into a more androgenic form, in trenbolones case however this does not matter, trenbolone boasts an androgenic ratio of 500, it can easily cause adverse androgenic side effects in any steroid.com members who are prone cases of hair loss, prostate enlargement, oily skin and acne have been reported. Unfortunately trenbolones potential negative side effects do not end there. Trenbolone is also a noted progestin: it binds to the receptor of the female sex hormone progesterone (with about 60% of the actual strength progesterone) (17). In sensitive steroid.com members this can lead to bloat and breast growth worse still, trenbolones active metabolite17beta-trenbolone has a binding affinity to the progesterone receptor (PgR) that is actually greater than progesterone itself (18). No need to panic though, the anti-estrogens letrzole or fulvestrant can lower progesterone levels, and combat any progestenic sides. The use of a 19-nor compound like trenbolone also increases prolactin& . bromocriptine or cabergoline are often recommended to lower prolatin levels (20). Testicular atrophy (shrunken balls) may also occur; HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - used intermittently throughout a cycle can prevent this. (21) It is also wise for trenbolone users to closely monitor their cholesterol levels, as well as kidney function and liver enzymes, as trenbolone has the potential to negatively affect all of those functions. Trenbolone, being a powerful progestin, will also shut down natural testosterone production which even a relatively small dose and keep the testosterone level suppressed for an extended period of time, this can lower libido and cause erectile dysfunction (Finaplix - trenbolone acetate - dick). It is essential that you always stack trenbolone with testosterone.

Very nice !

 

[needtogetaas]

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[bencher 500]

Where is the test ?might not want to run a trenbolone only cycle.

Was thinking of mixing in synovex-h with the tren.

 

[bencher 500]

Well as far as a trenbolone only some will disagree, however i know sevral HUGE BRO's that do this,( o-k i only know 3)LOL, anyway there are things you might want to run w/ it to help w/ Finaplix - trenbolone acetate - dick .(NELSON WERE ARE YA) But with that said i havnt heard of a gradual increse, What i did was start at
50 mg...then you know if you get sides there not going to be extreme, better yet my next time i will go Higher in MG but EOD because my ass is too sore, uncofortable to site on the bench at GYM,LOL..I'm A pussy !
The next thing you need to concider is the kind of kit you have, is it going to convert to 75mg per ml or 100mg per ml ? Then you will know how many CC ED to run.

The kit i recieved says i should get close to 40ml@100mg/ml. I'm thankful for all the input.

 

[jjaas]

I find it hard to regulate trenbolone. I tried 30mg ed, then 75 eod, then 100 eod but I think im going to quit what Im doing now. The sides of trenbolone are too much for me, basically I cant breathe, my bp's way high, and my temper is uncontrollable. When I say my temper is uncontrollable, I mean I feel like the Hulk when he gets too mad and then he turns green and destroys everything. I feel like needtogetass's avitar. Its that bad

 

[needtogetaas]

Well My temper was a bit higher. I have to say that. Thats it though. Around mid week 2 or so.

 

[khemix]

For those expeiranced w/ trenbolone, When did you notice Neg-sides. i think i am paranoid but i know my Nips(and around) seem puffy.
( a little peak ^ when warm,*incuding the aola< SP, when cold there perfect, just nippin). I know what to run if they are, but who here can tell me there story ! It's been about a week now on it, before was the dianabol/sus...and i was fine ! 6 wks into cycle, finshing last six w/ trenbolone.

I usually really feel trenbolone by the end of the second week, but i swear i start to feel it in the end of the first.

Give your nips a couple days and keep a close watch on them. They're usually sensitive when they get puffy, so thats something you'll likely notice. Letrozole will fix the problem if elevated estrogen is the culprit. trenbolone is a nandrolone so it could also be prolactin, so dostinex is the key to that.

I've ran trenbolone acet 4 times and trenbolone enanthate once, it being my most recent. I vote for the latter. The sides were less pronounced and the effects were a bit better with the enanthate. I dont really get that because I know Acetate is stronger mg/mg. It took a good 3-4weeks for the trenbolone enanthate to really hit me. I was much more vascular on the enanthate (veins thru serratus anterior/obliques/hip flexors) and the strength was a bit better as well.

Although I feel like recovery may have been a bit harder, or longer rather.

All of my trenbolone cycles have been ran with test enanthate at 500-750mg/wk. Peaked at 1g but wasn't worth it.

Thats only a taste of my experience with trenbolone

Chris

 

[bencher 500]

I usually really feel trenbolone by the end of the second week, but i swear i start to feel it in the end of the first.

Give your nips a couple days and keep a close watch on them. They're usually sensitive when they get puffy, so thats something you'll likely notice.

I've ran trenbolone acet 4 times and trenbolone testosterone enanthate my most recent, and I vote for the latter. The sides were less pronounced and the effects were a bit better with the enanthate. I dont really get that because I know Acetate is stronger mg/mg. It took a good 3-4weeks for the trenbolone testosterone enanthate to really hit me. I was much more vascular on the enanthate (veins thru serratus anterior/obliques/hip flexors) and the strength was a bit better as well.

Although I feel like recovery may have been a bit harder, or longer rather.

All of my trenbolone cycles have been ran with test enanthate at 500-750mg/wk. Peaked at 1g but wasn't worth it.

Thats only a taste of my experience with trenbolone

Chris

I was going to try to convert synovex in with tren has anyone heard of this.

 

[lartinos]

tren is a basic love/hate relationship. I just run it until the sides annoy me too much and then I drop it. I get anxiety on it, which really sucks.

 

[khemix]

I was going to try to convert synovex in with trenbolone has anyone heard of this.

I dont believe it can be done. I've never converted synovex, but I know you have to remove the estradiol from it. Its quite a bit more complicated compared to converted finaplix pellets or powder.

If you talking about making a mix of the two, EX:
Test Prop(synovex), 100mg/ml, 10ml
Tren Acet, 100mg/ml, 10ml

Combine the two, it becomes:
Test Prop/Tren Acet, 50mg/50mg/ml, 20ml

Make sure you shake it well. I've done this once. Mixed with Test E.

 

[bencher 500]

My first cycle of trenbolone was not bad, i did'nt have any sides and made a 80lb jump on my bench in 6 wks. However someone elese made it and had test in with it. I want to do it right and safe. I feel pretty stupid with all the questions, thanks for all the input. It was my understanding he crushed the synovex with the fina pellets and converted both in the same mix.

 

[khemix]

My first cycle of trenbolone was not bad, i did'nt have any sides and made a 80lb jump on my bench in 6 wks. However someone elese made it and had test in with it. I want to do it right and safe. I feel pretty stupid with all the questions, thanks for all the input. It was my understanding he crushed the synovex with the trenbolone pellets and converted both in the same mix.

No problem at all bro. We've all gotta learn, some of us the hard way (IE. didn't listen ). You might as well benefit from our experiences. Thats what were here for .

I'm out. Night.

 

[bencher 500]

Thanks alredy have learned great deal got to go as well.

 

[chris69]

Not that it matters,( except to my wallet) but why is the Dostinex so expensive compaired to a AI ! I can only find it for like 3 x's as much $$.

 

[khemix]

Not that it matters,( except to my wallet) but why is the Dostinex so expensive compaired to a aromatase inhibitor ! I can only find it for like 3 x's as much $$.

Lol I'm glad my wallet isn't the only one crying lol. I havn't shelled out the cash for the dostinex yet...but I will .

I feel ya lol.

And its actually almost 4 times as much

 

[chris69]

Lol I'm glad my wallet isn't the only one crying lol. I havn't shelled out the cash for the dostinex yet...but I will .

I feel ya lol.

And its actually almost 4 times as much

Must be a hard compound to manufacture, or atleast expensive chems....

 

[nydj66]

I've tried combatting tren gyno with letrozole but was unsuccessful. 2.5mg/day was not enough to stop the growth of lumps under my nipples at 500mg/wk of test-e and 400mg/wk of tren-e.

Even if letrozole can reduce progesterone, it does not address the issue of trenbolonme stimulating progesterone receptors directly. For that you need something that will block those receptors.

The best luck I've had on a trebolone cycle was by running 50mg/day of stanozolol with the trenbolone. This will keep me gyno free.