Tren first time!??!

[ALIN]

It's my opinion TREN is best reserved for the more experienced,,,more advanced athlete.

 

[Jbranken]

No, it does not become a health concern, it just becomes more of a concern. But that can be controlled.

6'2, 300, 25%

That means he would have a LBM of around 225 pounds. Very good base.

So you're saying steroids have the same effects on someone at +25% as they do on someone sub 12%??

And once again, you're assuming his estimate of 25% is accurate.

 

[infraredline]

I think peoples numbers of body fat are a bit off. You all think that someone that is above 15% body fat is unhealthy, which is far from true. Typically athletes are in the 12-15% range, and a healthy male should be around 20%. The fact that he is nearly 300 pounds and close to a healthy body fat means he has one hell of a base. Now if he was 200 pounds at 25% body fat that would be a different story. Not every person in the world wants to be sub 10% body fat. OP just needs to realize that the higher body fat % you have, the more likely you are to experience sides, especially estrogen related once, but that can all be controlled.

Now to the OP's question. Is winstrol the only experience you have with AAS?

The idea that 20% bodyfat is healthy is and extreme flaw of our health system and goes to show how little doctors actually know. Personally I think 18% is pushing it for a healthy individual. Optimally everyone should be 10-15% to be truly healthy.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

6'2 300 25% is different than 6'2 200 25% body fat

 

[Jbranken]

6'2 300 25% is different than 6'2 200 25% body fat

Fat is fat. Steroids and High bf is more of a health concern because a fat body's organs and lipids are already strained. Adding steroids to the equation isn't wise. I'd advise the OP to get lean before touching steroids

 

[Reps For Jesus]

It's your assumption that his organs and lipids are already strained. I'm not saying that it is a good idea for him to go on cycle. But there is no reason to freak out about his current stats.

 

[Jbranken]

It's your assumption that his organs and lipids are already strained. I'm not saying that it is a good idea for him to go on cycle. But there is no reason to freak out about his current stats.

No one is freaking out. And I'm not assuming his lipids and organs are strained, that's irrefutable science. You can't carry excess fat in this way and expect your body to function optimally; that's asinine to even defend it

I'm not saying he's so obese that he's on the verge of dying, but steroids? Give me a break.

 

[grkstallion76]

Listen I didn't want dick answers. Just knowledgable ones. I've done powerlifting comps for years. I know what I'm doing! No I'm not some fat slob who thinks I should just take roids as a miracle worker. I'm not an idiot!

 

[Jbranken]

Listen I didn't want dick answers. Just knowledgable ones. I've done powerlifting comps for years. I know what I'm doing! No I'm not some fat slob who thinks I should just take roids as a miracle worker. I'm not an idiot!

Read the thread. There's knowledge all over it. You just didn't get the answer you were looking for.

Maybe reps can set you up a cycle

 

[infraredline]

Listen I didn't want dick answers. Just knowledgable ones. I've done powerlifting comps for years. I know what I'm doing! No I'm not some fat slob who thinks I should just take roids as a miracle worker. I'm not an idiot!

No body is being a dick bro, your body fat is too high to be cycling plain and simple