tren, eq, test cyp amounts for cycle

[sammysobig]

I'm a newbie with anabolics, I'm 36 and been lifting for 20 years off and on. Want more results so I'm trying this cycle. Know it is a lot for a newbie but did a fair amount of research. I lack knowledge on using clomid, nolvadex and hcg, but have them all. My cycle is 1-12week Eq 500mg
1-12week test cyp 600mg
6-12 tren enanthate 300mg a week
I am only 1 week into cycle, please let me know what you think and what amounts of clomid, nolvadex, and hcg.

 

[billino32]

I just got off a cycle of test cyp and tren, had some decca with it.. and got really good results.. your decision to include nolva and clomid is great... I kept most of my gains!! 1st cycle I did i didnt use pct.. lost EVERYTHING!!

I'm a newbie with anabolics, I'm 36 and been lifting for 20 years off and on. Want more results so I'm trying this cycle. Know it is a lot for a newbie but did a fair amount of research. I lack knowledge on using clomid, nolvadex and hcg, but have them all. My cycle is 1-12week Eq 500mg
1-12week test cyp 600mg
6-12 tren enanthate 300mg a week
I am only 1 week into cycle, please let me know what you think and what amounts of clomid, nolvadex, and hcg.

 

[scoobysgym]

Hey man. I am running the same cycle right now I always run it one a year mine looks like this though
test cyp 750 ew weeks 1-20
eq 750 ew weeks 1-20
tren 100ed weeks 1-8
winny 100ed weeks 14-20
I use AIFM daily
and NOVLA AND CLOMID PCT.

I have gained over 20ibs every time Ive ran this cycle and keept 15 every time. Hope this helps. - Scooby

 

[sammysobig]

Hey man. I am running the same cycle right now I always run it one a year mine looks like this though
test cyp 750 ew weeks 1-20
eq 750 ew weeks 1-20
tren 100ed weeks 1-8
winny 100ed weeks 14-20
I use AIFM daily
and NOVLA AND CLOMID PCT.

I have gained over 20ibs every time Ive ran this cycle and keept 15 every time. Hope this helps. - Scooby

is there a good benefit to running the tren in the beginning of the cycle rather than the end like i am doing?

 

[sammysobig]

I just got off a cycle of test cyp and tren, had some decca with it.. and got really good results.. your decision to include nolva and clomid is great... I kept most of my gains!! 1st cycle I did i didnt use pct.. lost EVERYTHING!!

how much and when did you use the clomid and nolva?

 

[cydex01]

Your tren is enanthate, so it'd be best to run it 8+ weeks if possible. If it were acetate, you had the right idea on the length of time to run it. As it is, I'd say your tren is a waste in that cycle. Save it for the next and buy more.

For you PCT, in my personal opinion, I wouldn't even bother with the clomid. I would run run starting 1 week after the last shot of cyp/EQ (week 13):
Nolva 20mg each day for 6 weeks
HCG 1000IU's every Mon, Wed, Fri for the first 3 weeks of PCT

This is a generic PCT that generally works for most everyone. I haven't been on the PCT boards in a while, but that is what used to be recommended to most anyone who wasn't sure to run for their PCT when running long esters. If you were to use short esters (not cyp, enanthate, ect; but acetate, propionate, ect) you'd start your PCT 2 days after the last shot.

Some other common PCT's are:
Clomid or Nolva use when your longer esters' half lives are about up @ 150mg ED for a week, 100mg ED for a week, then 50mg ED for a week for clomid or 60mg ED for a week, 40mg ED for a week, then 20mg ED for a week for nolva. Which means, according to your cycle, you'd start a PCT like either of these on week 14.

 

[sammysobig]

Your tren is enanthate, so it'd be best to run it 8+ weeks if possible. If it were acetate, you had the right idea on the length of time to run it. As it is, I'd say your tren is a waste in that cycle. Save it for the next and buy more.

For you PCT, in my personal opinion, I wouldn't even bother with the clomid. I would run run starting 1 week after the last shot of cyp/EQ (week 13):
Nolva 20mg each day for 6 weeks
HCG 1000IU's every Mon, Wed, Fri for the first 3 weeks of PCT

This is a generic PCT that generally works for most everyone. I haven't been on the PCT boards in a while, but that is what used to be recommended to most anyone who wasn't sure to run for their PCT when running long esters. If you were to use short esters (not cyp, enanthate, ect; but acetate, propionate, ect) you'd start your PCT 2 days after the last shot.

Some other common PCT's are:
Clomid or Nolva use when your longer esters' half lives are about up @ 150mg ED for a week, 100mg ED for a week, then 50mg ED for a week for clomid or 60mg ED for a week, 40mg ED for a week, then 20mg ED for a week for nolva. Which means, according to your cycle, you'd start a PCT like either of these on week 14.

I have 4000mg tren enanthate, I'm only at the end of week 1, when do you think I should start it and how much.

 

[cydex01]

Now, run it 400mg for 10 weeks.

 

[MR. BMJ]

I agree with Cydex. STart it now and run it to week 12 with the Eq. I'd probably run the test to week 14 if it were me.

BMJ

 

[AhMadKooL]

tren + Nolva = Bad idea (since Nolva would increase prolactin levels which cause gyno and lactation) use AIFM instead

For a begenner I don't recommend you do tren running the test/EQ is more than enough