Tren e - test e cycle - pct

[Sinjder]

Hello

I'm planning a tren e - test e cyle starting last week in august.

Weight - 190 lbs
Fat - 7 - 8 %
Age - 24
3 cycle
Training have been constant for 3 years.

My last cycle was tbol 40mg a day week 1 -4 and week 8 - 12, test e - 10 weeks, forma for 10 weeks, nolva 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 and clomid 50 - 50 - 25 -25.

But I was thinking to keep calories at maintenance (3000kcal) , protein at 300 gram a day, but should I keep calories higher beacuse of the tren will lean me out ?

The goal is lean mass and fatloss ( Recomp ).

I think the cycle would look like this:

week 1 - 8 - Tren e 200mgs/week ( Can i pin tren e once a week? )
week 1 - 12 Test e 400mgs/week (pinning 200mg twice a week)

Prolactin - Prami? ( dosage? )
Forma week 1 -12 ?
What to use for AI if I can't get more forma?

PCT

HCG?
Clomid - 50 - 50 - 25 - 25


I live in Norway, so ordering things from need2 will be difficult because of the customes.

Have already ordered forma but I don't know if it will arrive or get seized.


Please give me some advice for what to use on cycle and for pct, and other things to include.

Cheers

 

[TheSVPdeal]

Prami or Caber and Aromasin for AI.
It would be nice to run HCGenerate during cycle with N2Guard.
I always run Forma during PCT with Bridge/Post Cycle/Unleashed.

 

[nycdiesel]

id do at least 400 mgs of the tren e a week.

 

[Sinjder]

If my package with forma arrives, I will use this for AI on cycle.

But should I run Hcg during cycle and when should I start it and what dosage?

Is 200mg tren e pr week low for a first timer on tren?

Big differnce with gains and sides between 200 and 400 mgs?

 

[joeblow12345]

If my package with forma arrives, I will use this for AI on cycle.

But should I run Hcg during cycle and when should I start it and what dosage?

Is 200mg tren e pr week low for a first timer on tren?

Big differnce with gains and sides between 200 and 400 mgs?

No 200 mg of Tren is enough for anyone. Don't run 400 mgs first go. And with any aas the sides increase with the dose. Run HGH at 250 ius twice a week from week 8-14. Use aromasin on cycle as ai and forma in pct. Lower Clomid dose as well to 25 mgs day during pct. If you can get caber I advise it over prami, as the sides from prami suck. Caber gives me no sides. If prami is all you can get, start at a low dose and see how it affects you. And remember Tren is brutal to some,so be careful. It's 5xs stronger than test, trust me 200 mgs is plenty for a first run. Be careful and eat like a horse.

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[dylangemelli]

I agree with joe and svp both... the one thing I wish you were dong different is running tren ace as opposed to tren e because if for some reason you react badly to it then you can stop and it will be out of your system quickly... its normally a good idea to start with the acetate... I also think 200 mg a week will be plenty for a first timer... when you are getting up in the 400 range, that is for experienced tren users... try to get caber as opposed to prami... you will have much less sides and I think caber just works better... your clomid should be ran no higher than 25 mg... also get the unleashed/post cycle combo and forma stanzol... you will get some great gains on this cycle if you run it properly and are spot on with your diet and training...

 

[Sinjder]

Thanks for advice.

But is 12,5mg ED for Aromasin during cycle okay?

And what dosage is okay for prami or caber?

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks for advice.

But is 12,5mg ED for Aromasin during cycle okay?

And what dosage is okay for prami or caber?

at the start 12.5 mg EOD for aromasin is plenty... you would only be going everyday if you developed gyno symptoms...

caber dosing would be .5 mg E3D...

prami a lot of users start at .125mg ED and then go to .25mg, .375mg, and then .50mg ED and so forth.

i wouldnt start any higher than .25 just to let your body get used to it and then eventually get up to .50... take it right before bed...

 

[Sinjder]

Thanks for the answers.

Then I think the hole cycle would look like this (please correct me If somethings looks wrong):

Week 1-12 400mg Test e (inj. monday and thursday)
Week 1-8 200mg Tren e (inj. monday and thursday)

AI: Week 1-12 12,5mg Aromasin EOD (maybe ED if gyno appears)

Prolactin: Caber 0,5mg E3D

PCT: Forma week 14-18
Clomid week 14-18
Unleashed/post cycle combo week 14-18
HcG week 8- 14 250 ius (twice a week)

But some final questions:

Should I wait 1 or 2 weeks for the test e to clear before I hit PCT?

How long should I run the caber and aromasin?


And thanks again for the highly valued answers.

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks for the answers.

Then I think the hole cycle would look like this (please correct me If somethings looks wrong):

Week 1-12 400mg Test e (inj. monday and thursday)
Week 1-8 200mg Tren e (inj. monday and thursday)

AI: Week 1-12 12,5mg Aromasin EOD (maybe ED if gyno appears)

Prolactin: Caber 0,5mg E3D

PCT: Forma week 14-18
Clomid week 14-18
Unleashed/post cycle combo week 14-18
HcG week 8- 14 250 ius (twice a week)

But some final questions:

Should I wait 1 or 2 weeks for the test e to clear before I hit PCT?

How long should I run the caber and aromasin?


And thanks again for the highly valued answers.

run caber and aromasin from the start of the cycle...

you start pct 2 weeks after last pin

your pct should only be 4 weeks... you have it listed as 5... weeks, 14, 15, 16, 17...

 

[TheSVPdeal]

You can't start PCT too soon. Reviving the HPTA is my priority. I start the day after my last pin.

 

[joeblow12345]

You can't start PCT too soon. Reviving the HPTA is my priority. I start the day after my last pin.

It doesnt make sense to start pct the day after. The juice is still supressing your body, are your not really recovering. You need to let it clear your body then begin recovery. This is why so many people say they feel fine in pct, and crash afterwords.

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[TheSVPdeal]

It doesnt make sense to start pct the day after. The juice is still supressing your body, are your not really recovering. You need to let it clear your body then begin recovery. This is why so many people say they feel fine in pct, and crash afterwords.

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You obviously don't understand how long it takes the shit to clear your body. It ain't two weeks. Starting PCT right away is jump STARTING the HPTA. I have never crashed after PCT but only continued to gain.

 

[joeblow12345]

You obviously don't understand how long it takes the shit to clear your body. It ain't two weeks. Starting PCT right away is jump STARTING the HPTA. I have never crashed after PCT but only continued to gain.

Ok whatever works for you.

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[Sinjder]

Got the last pieces for the cycle yesterday and couldnt wait for monday, so I started pinning today.

Really looking forward 2-3 weeks for the gear to kick in.

500mg Test E and 250 mg Tren E pr. week, so the dosages went up a little bit.

Have aroma, caber, hcg, clomid, forma and unleashed/post cycle combo on hand.

Will be eating 4000kcal pr. day and workout 2 days 1 day off then 2 days ......

400gr protein, 400gr carbs and rest healthy fats.

 

[zdaddy]

Am in the last eek of my Cycle 400mg Tren eth/ 600 test cup. Tried Prami but the sides were too much. Have shut down pretty bad though not totally. Have HCG and a little Clomid from last cycle. what should I do?