Tren and Prop Cycle Questions

[libbaye]

Smash fish oil at 20-30grams a day. Eat 3 meals a day high in protein and low in carbs and 2-3 protein shakes, keep carbs to veggies and maybe earlier in the day some rice, yams, or oatmeal but if you need lower BF lower the carbs....increase protein with shakes, and increase EFA intake. A few handfuls of BCAAs prior to training and if you got the cash in between meals. Depending on your training, hit intervals hard, way more bang for the buck than steady state cardio. I do not know why folks are still bent on "cardio", do energy system development, ie intervals, much less time, burns way more calories (EPOC) and wont hurt your speed or strength with the weights. 10 or 15 minutes of intervals or strongman type circuits after your lifts 3-4 days a week will do worlds more for bodyfat loss than cardio.

As for Tren, I am a total newbie but have done two 5-6 week blasts in the past year with 75mg Tren Ace EOD, no caber, and last run was with about 150mg Test Prop and 100mg Mast Prop EOD. No sides really at all. So much so I feel like running it again this summer at a higher dose and with caber (got some on hand now for next run), but after reading how harsh it is I guess I will wait and just run Primo + Tbol + test Prop this summer and finish up with some Var possibly.

Well went and re upped my fish oil supply. The lady at the vitamin shoppe looked at me a little funny when I told her I was planning to take 20 grams a day. So that helped you lower you BF? How long did you keep running that dosage?

 

[Power36]

Well went and re upped my fish oil supply. The lady at the vitamin shoppe looked at me a little funny when I told her I was planning to take 20 grams a day. So that helped you lower you BF? How long did you keep running that dosage?

Im going on 3 years running that dosage So are many athletes I work with. If you can afford it, smash it. I also hit CLA too but not as high a dose.

His website is down, but maybe google in a few days Poliquin and Fish Oil, he has many articles listing the 15+ research backed benefits, plus he has athletes on 20-30grams all the time.

Trust me it cannot hurt, it improved my blood lipids, improves mood, reduces inflammation, improves cognitive function, the list goes on and on...and yes, you smash fish oil and high dose protein over time you will see body composition changes in a very positive direction.

 

[joeblow12345]

Joe. Should I be taking the winny EOD the same as the prop? Thanks buddy.

I'd take the winny Ed. Orals have short half lives and you wanna keep blood levels up.

 

[libbaye]

The winny is an injectable. Should I still be taking it everyday? I was thinking 75mg EOD along with 75mg tren and 75mg prop. I took my first shot of the winny two nights ago in my delt and it has swollen up and hard as a rock. The tren and prop have never given me any problems there. I had this happen a few years ago after taking 3ccs in my delt and it eventually went away. This was only 1cc. What do you think that could be from? I am going to take another one tonight and was going to hit my other delt but I don't want to swell that one up as well.

 

[joeblow12345]

Even winny injectable needs to be taken daily. It also has a short half life. You can try diluting it with some sterile gso. It will help cut down on the pip but its still a painful shot. Next time I suggest you go with an oral.

 

[libbaye]

Would you recommend taking the winny orally even though it is in the injectable form. I could alternate so that I only inject it EOD with my tren and prop but the days in between I could just drink it. What are your thoughts. And what dosage for the 3? I was thinking 75mg each but if I am doing winny ED then I might drop that to the 40 to 50mg range. Thanks

 

[rustilldown]

Would you recommend taking the winny orally even though it is in the injectable form. I could alternate so that I only inject it EOD with my tren and prop but the days in between I could just drink it. What are your thoughts. And what dosage for the 3? I was thinking 75mg each but if I am doing winny ED then I might drop that to the 40 to 50mg range. Thanks

Just drink it Ed then avoid the nasty winny shots

 

[libbaye]

Just drink it Ed then avoid the nasty winny shots

What dosage ED for the winny? I'm guessing 50mg ED sounds about right.

 

[rustilldown]

50 is about the standard you can adjust up or down depending on how you react and length of cycle but ya start with 50/Ed

 

[libbaye]

I'm assuming your referring to research chems? Some of them are great and some are garbage. Ag guys is a good one with quality products. They carry aromasin and caber. It is legal to buy for conducting your research on your rats. It just so happens that a lot of us juice heads are also aspiring scientists, so we use lots of research chems regularly. They are usually a lot cheaper then pharmaceutical grade meds.

Joe what are your thoughts on some of the BD gear I have been seeing on the web? The ones I've seen say that they ship to the US but I am leary about getting my money stolen or getting in trouble. Are there any ones that you know are reliable? Finding a reliable source for Var has been challenging lately.