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Tren and Clomid
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big greg 82
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add test to it and run test/tren
enacer420nj
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kludgeS13 said:
Tren aint a beginers drug bro....is this your first cycle ?? list some stats.
enacer420nj
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kludgeS13 said:
Is this your first cycle?
enacer420nj
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kludgeS13 said:
As I said before Tren isnt a beginer drug there is alot things you need to know about it and also other things to run with it. Test is the only thing you want for a first cycle, if you cant get it just hold off. I would also do a shitload of research about AI's SERMS HCG and PCT
I would never touch tren OR clomid.
stats?kludgeS13 said:
herblcure said:
if you have to ask you need too do a lot more research
ryno9000
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eddymerckx said:
I DISAGREE! The man was curious about his opinion. Many many people think tren and clomid are great! Many do not. There are tons of reasons for asking "why" in this situation. There are MILLIONS of people who would say that you need to do more research if you touch test, and millions (maybe) that think those folks are crazy. Two sides to every arguement. I think its a valid question that deserves a response, which I am sure Nelson is glad to give!
nzrodney
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kludgeS13 said:
First time tren users may only run that dose for 4-6 weeks. The sides are not something that you need to deal with as a novice AAS user. Test & or an oral like Dbol or Drol are the normal options used to stack wuith Tren. Clomid is not that suitable for use in PCT after a tren cycle. Tren is a progesterone receptor agonist & the type of post cycle problems likely to be encountered are more prolactin based than estrogen based. So the ancillaries that you are more likely to need are prolactin inhibitors like dostinex & perhaps an AI like Aromisan of Letrozole. You can see that there is quite a bit to know how the different drugs interact in the body & I have only touched on a couple of things that a Tren user needs to know.
navigatorrs
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So for a Tren 100mg EOD Test P 100mg EOD cycle for 8 weeks winnny @50mg ED for weeks 5-8 what would be the best PCT?nzrodney said:
enacer420nj
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navigatorrs said:
You should get HCG and derma also some clomid...i hear alot about unleashed but never used it
herblcure
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eddymerckx said:
you know, without posting any angry response, let me get a few things straight. I studied tren..from the effects on cattle to that on past human users. I then contacted a biophysacist and had him explain to me the molecular compounds in tren and what possible effects it may have on a human. I then contacted roughly 10 tren users that I have come in contact with over the years and listed both pros and cons that were explained.
That being said, I further studied the sides and researched the rate at which many of the cons are experienced at different dosages. I could go on and on, but the simple fact is, this board is used for various things...to learn, to teach, and to entertain. I asked a question so that I may expand my knowledge - that is the point of asking a damn question. Your response "do more research" makes no sense since that is what I was attempting to do by asking the question to begin with.
In the future, perhaps short one sentence replies could be reworded in order to show your support for someone attemption to gain knowledge instead of showing your lack of support whatsoever. SHIT!
nzrodney
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herblcure said:
Yes agree with your complaint. It would seem that your query was taken out of context with the other posts. I feel that this happens quite often. In some cases its because the responses to posts are not properly concidered in accordance with the surrounding replies. ie. people just quickly pick up on a topic & make a random reply without reading the whole thread to see where its going. I believe from memory the Nelson has made his feelings clear about his dislike of Tren & Clomid (& other compounds) from time to time on other threads. Have you posted your study of tren users anywhere on the board? I would be very interested in reading your conclusions.
layinback
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kludgeS13 said:
brotha,
you shouldn't do a drug just because it's all you have access to.
trenbolone is NOT a drug for beginners and it is not ideal to run
it alone.
i love trenbolone, but i am an advanced trainer and i use it
sparingly and with much respect.
i will not cosign yours ( or anybody else's ) bullshit.
actually, if you read the thread, he talks about a "novice cycle"
if he did indeed talk to all these professionals, which one suggested tren-only cyle and much less for a novice cycle??? this suggests either he or his research subjects do not have the first clue as to what he is doing--
i for one will not encourage someone to begin a cycle when they do not have even the most basic understanding of the pro/cons/and general gear use protocol--much less the specific compound they are considering. moreover, how can one have done the research he claims to have done and not know that clomid can be hell on bros--or that tren alone is a bad idea, and bad for a first cycle.
if my answer was terse, it came from talking so many bros off a precipice b/c they come here to hear certain answers--nothing more--and giving advice w/o first finding out his stats is not helpful what so ever and could be harmful--
-"yea, tren is fine"---then you read a obit about a 16 yo with severe asthma who took tren and suffoctaed to death. remember--thousands more people read these thread than just the one asking the questions.
if he did indeed talk to all these professionals, which one suggested tren-only cyle and much less for a novice cycle??? this suggests either he or his research subjects do not have the first clue as to what he is doing--
i for one will not encourage someone to begin a cycle when they do not have even the most basic understanding of the pro/cons/and general gear use protocol--much less the specific compound they are considering. moreover, how can one have done the research he claims to have done and not know that clomid can be hell on bros--or that tren alone is a bad idea, and bad for a first cycle.
if my answer was terse, it came from talking so many bros off a precipice b/c they come here to hear certain answers--nothing more--and giving advice w/o first finding out his stats is not helpful what so ever and could be harmful--
-"yea, tren is fine"---then you read a obit about a 16 yo with severe asthma who took tren and suffoctaed to death. remember--thousands more people read these thread than just the one asking the questions.
My reasons are simple. Too many sides. And there are better alternatives.
Mavafanculo
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herblcure said:
you need to do alot less research
j/k - it was a hanging curveball lol
kudos on your research - if only everybody took this stuff as serious before messing with it
Mavafanculo
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let's get back to kludges original question -
kludge you need to provide some stats to get some answers
kludge you need to provide some stats to get some answers
MichaelScott said:
I have to say something here.
I think everyone has to ease up on new members and cut out this "do a search" on every subject. Sure, I get tired of answering the same questions but a lot of what bodybuilding is, IS the same answers. But they aren't known to everyone.
As long as the request isn't disrespectful or inane or something that can be accessed easily on a reference page it's fine to ask it. Otherwise, we might as well just put up a banner on the home page with a search engine and shut down the boards.
MichaelScott
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i know i deleted the post but you quoted it, so now its there for all to see lol
MichaelScott said:
Sorry bro.
It's cool though. We're all friends. 
layinback
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Nelson Montana said:
nelson, i know you are adamantly opposed to trenbolone.
i've used it on several occasions without adverse events.
many people use trenbolone without problems.
it's a matter of sane dosing and short duration in the
highly trained athlete.
NOTHING does what tren does in the area of visceral fat.
it possesses qualities that no other aas does.
my HRT doc told me that if it was available and legal, he
would prescribe tren along with oxandrolone for fat loss.
( he is a bb'er with 20 + years of experience with aas )
what is a "better" alternative to tren?
ryno9000
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I too am curious as to what a "better alternative" to tren would be. I'm not saying there isn't, as I have yet to run tren, but I want to hear all arguements.
Also, back to the original question, is clomid enough to recover from something as powerful as tren? I've never heard a straight answer on this either.
Also, back to the original question, is clomid enough to recover from something as powerful as tren? I've never heard a straight answer on this either.
layinback said:
We seem to keep coming up against the same argument, which really isn't an argument at all. You might as well ask what's better than DNP for fat loss. There's nothing. That doesn't make DNP a good choice.
You can take any steroid and with proper training and diet make great progress in the area of fat loss, so what's the problem? Tren works better but causes difficulty breathing and kills your dick? Sorry, not worth it to me.
herblcure
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Both sides exist - those that use it and say all is well and those that use it and swear it is the worst thing in the world. I think that is what I like most about it..that there are two sides meaning that it may not be good for you but it may be good for someone else.
In comparison, I have friends that simply cannot get off when their wives go down on them - while others..love it more than sex...
so, I have come to the amazingly "educated" conclusion that tren is like a blowjob - while some may find it to be a waste of time for whatever reason, those that love it tend to want it more and more.
MORE BLOW JOBS PLEASE!
In comparison, I have friends that simply cannot get off when their wives go down on them - while others..love it more than sex...
so, I have come to the amazingly "educated" conclusion that tren is like a blowjob - while some may find it to be a waste of time for whatever reason, those that love it tend to want it more and more.
MORE BLOW JOBS PLEASE!
jagerbombme
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dnp can kill you for the one post. if it's your first cycle, and all you can get is tren. and your only gonna run one compound, which will enable you to know what's doing what. give it a go bro. fuckit. if sides show and you can't take them, drop it out. normally this is not recommended. however if you were to tell me test tren dbol i'd say wait a minute cause if you get sides you won't know whats doing what. i hear all this crying about how bad tren is all the time. im on it for the first time. 3 weeks on, couple nights of mild sweating. couple nights of insomnia. everything else is soooooo positive imo this is my fav steroid and will be forever. nothing in my life has made me feel so good. no rec drug, no booze, nothing. tren is the shit. be careful.
Harleymarleybone
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jagerbombme said:
Meth makes me feel better than anything on the planet, but that is the true dark side.
What's your dosage right now, and how is the ol blood pressure holding? Doin Tren Ace myself, but I had a cold the end of my first week, so I haven't felt so well. Just getting over it now, and things should be kicking in soon. Startin' out at 50 mgs a day. My diastolic is low - in the 70's, but systolic is hovering around 140.
