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Tren Ace VS Masteron

Mast is a wonderful drug IMO. Many wont see the tru benefits of it because they are not lean enough to start, but even if you aren't prepping for a contest it's a great substitution for winstrol when stacking with test and tren to get all the advantages of a DHT derived compound without the joint pain. But as far as mast and tren being similar, I'd say it's only in the realm of muscle hardness.
 
I know most of your gains that you keep depend alot on your PCT, but you are going to lose some no matter what I believe. Are you more likely to keep your gains with tren or mast better?

Also I am not lean enough to be cut. I am trying to lean up a little, but I want to basically get some more strength, size and hardness. I don't want to get my bf too low that I cannot maintain it in a realistic fashion. I just have a hard time losing the fat on my love handles and my lower stomach. I have a flat stomach from the side and definition in my upper abs,but the lower abs are still a little soft even though it appears flat, and the love handles...... they pretty have never went away no matter what i do. I just would like to be able to build hard lean muscle. I know I can gain the mass pretty easily on the supplements, but I also very easily pack on the water weight which is why my concern is to try and eliminate this as much as possible. Now with the tren if i take it and can gain some good size without too much worry of water gain and gyno then this would definately be my choice over the mast seeing as how i need to lose some fat before I would see the results of a good cutting steroid. My buddy on the other hand has almost no fat on his body so a cutting steroid is right up his alley.
 
dhudson8 said:
I know most of your gains that you keep depend alot on your PCT, but you are going to lose some no matter what I believe. Are you more likely to keep your gains with tren or mast better?

Also I am not lean enough to be cut. I am trying to lean up a little, but I want to basically get some more strength, size and hardness. I don't want to get my bf too low that I cannot maintain it in a realistic fashion. I just have a hard time losing the fat on my love handles and my lower stomach. I have a flat stomach from the side and definition in my upper abs,but the lower abs are still a little soft even though it appears flat, and the love handles...... they pretty have never went away no matter what i do. I just would like to be able to build hard lean muscle. I know I can gain the mass pretty easily on the supplements, but I also very easily pack on the water weight which is why my concern is to try and eliminate this as much as possible. Now with the tren if i take it and can gain some good size without too much worry of water gain and gyno then this would definately be my choice over the mast seeing as how i need to lose some fat before I would see the results of a good cutting steroid. My buddy on the other hand has almost no fat on his body so a cutting steroid is right up his alley.

Tren wont convert to estrogen, thus wont make you hold water while on it, but it may cause gyno thru prolactin buildup.
 
danymal04 said:
thats why you run mast or winny along with it

You dont have to, but I wouldnt run mast with it because of its negative effects on hairline. Winny just kills my joints. I'd rather use a blocker to negate those effects if I was prone to the, which fortunatly I am not, so no worries.
 
used2juice said:
Trenbolone was made as human grade back in the 70's as parabolan. It has now been discontinued but you would have to assume that a compound that was legally made for human use had to have been tested in some respect before Negma was given the legal right to produce it.

As for masteron, I like it for hardening since it's a DHT derivative. But as far as a good AAS for the masses, tren is god's gift.

you can still find parabolan at 76 mg/ml if you know where to look, but do you think it is the same as the original parabolan in the 70's? I'm not sure but I think the site I'm talking about calls it tren hex.
 
thanks. I think I'm going to use the tren A at like 75mg EOD for 6 weeks or so and see how it works. I'll also take some sort of AI, any suggestions on which to take with it? I am takin sust,tren A, and finishing last 4 weeks with winny.
 
Masteron isn't much good except for contest prep, for loosing water and achieve greater vascularity. Tren on the other hand does that thing with water plus helps with vascularity but also builds lean mass and helps with fatloss tremendously. Tren is harsher and better, no question about it, Masteron is more androgenic and less anabolic.
 
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