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So does anyone running these new items have any bloods to show?? Inquiring minds want to know!!
Transdermal's Real or Bunk??
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Too soon to tell. The first orders were only received by people within the last two weeks. I think we'll se a bunch of blood tests in about two to three weeks that will give some idea of just how effective the transdermals are.
In the meantime, look for the logs people running them are keeping. I'm keeping one for a client and there are at least a few others going at the same time.
In the meantime, look for the logs people running them are keeping. I'm keeping one for a client and there are at least a few others going at the same time.
dusteefartz
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I am following the log's, but people can write anything they want
My buddy is running them right now and he says they are working for him but I dont see any thing diffrent about him. he says his workouts are up but that too my be a placebo effect.
The bloods will tell the story. Nothing else will be conclusive. All we can do is wait and see in a couple more weeks, everything else is speculation.
freakshow85
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I'll be giving some feedback on them soon. Gonna order tomorrow.
training700
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Noticed normal sides associated with aas but not to the same affect as if I were injecting. So far would say use more than would if injecting. I feel good on the cycle. Its a great boost and perfect for someone doing more athletic related activities and wants extra but for pure size and strength would either try it a lot higher or just recommend injections. Time will tell its starting to kick in more so will see. Definitely has steroids in it that are working
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Need2 said in another thread that he loves them and wouldn't inject again unless he had to. I started the transdermal winny 1 weeks ago in the middle of a Test E cycle ( injectable btw ), and def getting stronger and more vascular. Never ran winny before so not sure what to expect just wanted to throw in my .02. I'll post again when results are more conclusive.
perryscoon
New member
I am going to be trying some soon. I know the feeling of tren very well so I'll def know if theres tren in it or not. I sure hope the transdermals are good so we don't have to pin any more. Pinning sux, period.
I'm on week 2 of test/tren stack and ill have blood done in about 2 weeks and will update for the board. Overall sides I have acne forming on shoulders and wake up drenched in sweat several times a night and am always feeling thirsty although I drink roughly gallon to 1.5 gal. Of h2o daily. So, so far so good.
I am on day 5 of a test/tren/t3 12 week stack
100mg per day test split AM/PM
100mg per day tren split AM/PM
200ml T3 split AM/PM
6 weeks in (from now), i swap the tren for winny.
I have documented LOW test levels of 40, at the age of 29 from extreme weight loss
my doctor is flat on his ASS for giving me AAS (LOL) and only wants to approve AndroGel so i said FUK HIM
and started my own cycle
I am afraid of needles, hence my original reason for wanting to go TRT route.
I jumped on board for these transdermals though
So far... I have ZERO results. I have noticed nothing. No changes in teh scale or anything.
I do powerlifting 5 days a week, for 60min sessions
I eat between 1900-2k calories, and 200gram protein per day
6ft 29, 220lbs, 18-20%body fat, mostly lower abdominal skin/subcutaneous fat from the weight loss.
Again, I'm a pretty strong dude natty. I bench 330, swat 550 and dead 530 natty.
Day 5, and NOTHING. I got the link from need2's signature. My source has stated he has other with results, and wants me to keep him updated. I'm going to give it the 2-3 weeks recommended then get blood done.
Im just hoping the Trandermals arn't bunk ...cause it was really teh answer I was looking for.
But to me!? honestly. the Test base feels like I'm applying rubbing alcohol ... and the Tren base feels like rubbing alcohol mixed with iodine...
100mg per day test split AM/PM
100mg per day tren split AM/PM
200ml T3 split AM/PM
6 weeks in (from now), i swap the tren for winny.
I have documented LOW test levels of 40, at the age of 29 from extreme weight loss
my doctor is flat on his ASS for giving me AAS (LOL) and only wants to approve AndroGel so i said FUK HIM
and started my own cycle
I am afraid of needles, hence my original reason for wanting to go TRT route.
I jumped on board for these transdermals though
So far... I have ZERO results. I have noticed nothing. No changes in teh scale or anything.
I do powerlifting 5 days a week, for 60min sessions
I eat between 1900-2k calories, and 200gram protein per day
6ft 29, 220lbs, 18-20%body fat, mostly lower abdominal skin/subcutaneous fat from the weight loss.
Again, I'm a pretty strong dude natty. I bench 330, swat 550 and dead 530 natty.
Day 5, and NOTHING. I got the link from need2's signature. My source has stated he has other with results, and wants me to keep him updated. I'm going to give it the 2-3 weeks recommended then get blood done.
Im just hoping the Trandermals arn't bunk ...cause it was really teh answer I was looking for.
But to me!? honestly. the Test base feels like I'm applying rubbing alcohol ... and the Tren base feels like rubbing alcohol mixed with iodine...
LoveSnatches
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I'm still skeptical especially because we could just essentially just use a ton of androgel. But we don't do that because androgel turns to estrogen and binds to SBHG higher than injectable test.
But I know people have had great results with transdermal trenazone - so it can definitely be done.
But I know people have had great results with transdermal trenazone - so it can definitely be done.
training700
New member
Tren has been used transdermaly for a long time just with dmso
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dusteefartz
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Has anyone gotten bloods done to PROOVE that these are uneffective...other than just going on the words of members?? Rage22's post was closed before he could post his bloods.
Sherk
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I want to see actual tests with dates. Not what someone types down on here or just goes by how they feel. Actual tests from a lab. That's the only definitive proof anyone can claim on if it's bunk or real. Anything else is hearsay and has no creditability no matter who they are IMO.
dusteefartz
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I agree 100% w/u Shrek thats why I was lost when N2 closed Rage22's thread. and I was equally as lost as to why N2 isn't getting his blods done instead of relying on a friend? I'm not attacking just curious.
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psizzle_8
Guest
You guys act like we are conspiring against you lol...we're not. I don't get money sent to me for telling you about transdermals. When needto or anyone finds a good product, we start spreading the word to you guys.
Use it or don't use it, that's YOUR business. We will still tell you all about how awesome they are and how we like them because we do.
Use it or don't use it, that's YOUR business. We will still tell you all about how awesome they are and how we like them because we do.
dusteefartz
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Psizzle I never made that accusation and I never would. You guys have been nothing but get sources of knowledge for me and many others here. I was just asking why the thread was closed and why N2 or anyone else on them hasn't gotten bloods done with all the hype surrounding them..that's all I'm saying..no disrespect at all is meant here...seriously...FYI on another note your progesss on the shreddrer is coming along great!
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psizzle_8
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Wasn't really directed at you....no worriesPsizzle I never made that accusation and I never would. You guys have been nothing but get sources of knowledge for me and many others here. I was just asking why the thread was closed and why N2 or anyone else on them hasn't gotten bloods done with all the hype surrounding them..that's all I'm saying..no disrespect at all is meant here...seriously...FYI on another note your progesss on the shreddrer is coming along great!
I wasn't involved in the closing of the thread.. But the thread was probably closed because people are taking that info and running with it...taking one person's bad experience and making the conclusion these guys aren't good to go. That's not fair to this company...so many of us are loving these products right now, myself included, and for people to be crying 'placebo effect' just makes me laugh.
Thank you for the kind words!
Lefty78
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Why was the thread closed before his brothers bloods were posted? Many people here are curious in jumping in on the trans, but if anything negative pops up and it gets pulled makes everyone second guess it even more.
Now if Rage never posted proof then I would agree with deleting someone for just running their mouth without any evidence. I'm just a PH user so to go to a trans like I would love, I would like some evidence as we all would.
Now if Rage never posted proof then I would agree with deleting someone for just running their mouth without any evidence. I'm just a PH user so to go to a trans like I would love, I would like some evidence as we all would.
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psizzle_8
Guest
^^^Pretty sure I just answered this question...
Sherk
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I actually agree with closing the thread. There was no labs posted to back anything up. Not saying he is or isn't telling the truth. I just won't take anyone's word that something is real or fake without actual proof. I don't know anyone personally so I can't make the claim of calling someone a liar without proof or backing them without proof. I personally have no intentions on using the products because I'm not a fan of transdermals. It's more out of curiosity for me than anything. I used androgel for trt and was short of impressed. Again this is my own opinion and that's it.
Add: I can care less who does or doesn't get the labs done but with these threads disagreeing I feel more than one person needs to step up to the plate and spend the few bucks to back up the claims and put this to rest. It seems to consume the board. IMO.
Add: I can care less who does or doesn't get the labs done but with these threads disagreeing I feel more than one person needs to step up to the plate and spend the few bucks to back up the claims and put this to rest. It seems to consume the board. IMO.
TheRippedReverend
Banned
Gotta say dude am with you on that theroy
I dont know if I'll get banned for this... But im going to try and do this as lightly as possible. I am showing you actual Blood tests. I guess I could get a little more technical and actually video tape my brother using the product 2x Everyday. Reguardless here are his test 3 weeks after using the Test/winny stack. Im not bad mouthing, I have asked for my money back. The results are not conclusive with what I have experianced in the past using 500mg ew, or even 350mg test every week. I truly wish I was wrong and that one of you guys could post bloods showing different. Call me out for all I care. All I know is exactly what Im telling you. I am not trying to start trouble
Ive been on this site I think 3 years now. I have always helped others and logged my cycles the best I can with Regualar blood test. I'm pretty sure if "they" are as good as they say they are they already know who I am and its easy to see im just an average guy with literally no ties to a competeing company (hell I had a PM from "enquiring minds" asking my to tell them the email address I used to purchase my transdermal, Come on guys!... Thats an obvious no. Also why not just look up what email is associated with my SN on here. Just saying, none of us are hidden by any means), what other company does this anyway? Beacuse I'd like to know so I can try their stuff to. Trust me I would LOVE for this to take the place of the regualar methods of administering AAS. But results like this are just not conclusive to what they need to be.
Here is the link to the thread everyone is talking about in this thread. It was closed for unknown reasons to me. I didnt see any real anger or anything that bad happening unless I missed something and the post were deleted but I dont think any were.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/transdermal-test-not-effective-1140043-10.html
Again, Im not bashing anyone or trying to get banned. Hell I love this site and the Mods and especially needto for all his work and efforts. Hell the guy helped me get my ass back to regualar when NO doctor could (I had gone to I think 15 at the time and not one understood my issue, shutdown). I think that was 3 years ago now. Almost everything I have learned and taught others was literally taught to me by this site and Needto. Hell I have sent at least 50 new customers that way and to this site. I am simply sharing information that I have gathered and trying to yet again, help others out that may have a reason to ask for there money back. Everyone can draw their own conclusions and honestly, I hope you all get you own Bloods and post them up here. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS STUFF WORK! Its just not for me or my brother at this point and as the old saying goes, "If it aint broke, dont fix it". I will be pinning until more is learn't about this transdermal stuff.
That is that last thing I have to say on this subject. Take it for what you will
And ps. That whole raid thing. Yes That is a real story and I guess if anyone needs to see it, I wasnt arrested, and they did take the stuff. Its right on the little paper they left on top of the warrant to search my buddy. Now is it smart of me to post before I know Im in the clear. I dont know. But what was there was there so...
You all have any further questions you can search my Sn or rage223. Im on a few sites if I get banned for this. I hope not though!
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psizzle_8
Guest
This shit is starting to piss me off lol...this is the absolute last time I'm commenting on this.
I love the products. I'm on them now (transdermal winny) and am loving it. I'm a girl so it's very fast and easy to spot when a compound is real or not and I can honestly say IT'S WORKING!!!! And several others are experiencing this exact same result from these products, and guess what, a lot of them aren't mods since some of you weirdos are under the impression we get paid for telling you about these products, we fucking don't. Ask needto, if being a mod were a paying gig we'd all be fucking millionaires lol but we do not get paid so seriously I just might ban the next person who is rude, disrespectful, and talks shit on us mods...as hard as we work around here to help you, we don't deserve that. So stop already.
Rage- I spoke with the company today. Send them an email and tell them your concerns, they'd like to get this resolved.
I love the products. I'm on them now (transdermal winny) and am loving it. I'm a girl so it's very fast and easy to spot when a compound is real or not and I can honestly say IT'S WORKING!!!! And several others are experiencing this exact same result from these products, and guess what, a lot of them aren't mods since some of you weirdos are under the impression we get paid for telling you about these products, we fucking don't. Ask needto, if being a mod were a paying gig we'd all be fucking millionaires lol but we do not get paid so seriously I just might ban the next person who is rude, disrespectful, and talks shit on us mods...as hard as we work around here to help you, we don't deserve that. So stop already.
Rage- I spoke with the company today. Send them an email and tell them your concerns, they'd like to get this resolved.
Rockwilder
New member
^^^Why don't you just PM psizzle...I'm sure she wouldn't mind helping you out bro...
If you're nice about it of course!
If you're nice about it of course!
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psizzle_8
Guest
I just spoke with the company. Try again. Hell, tell them you spoke with me and I told you to talk to them if you want.
And yes lol with me especially being a nice civilized human being will get you VERY far with me.
And yes lol with me especially being a nice civilized human being will get you VERY far with me.
Headholio
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TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting is a website where you can post a picture on the internet so people can go look at it full size. If you insert a picture in a thread as you did, you can't click on it to enlarge it unless you are a platinum member.
Big Rick Rock
istrator
Same here, I had a tiny bit of it and I did notice Tren sides very quickly.
I keep telling everybody to use RS Transaderm or even Forma_Stanzol mixed in as a carrier to help transdermal delivery... I'm just not fully sold on this very thin liquid it comes in. I did notice some itching and a bit if burning after application which is somewhat consistent with some transdermals I've used in the past.
-BRR
I dont know if I'll get banned for this... But im going to try and do this as lightly as possible. I am showing you actual Blood tests. I guess I could get a little more technical and actually video tape my brother using the product 2x Everyday. Reguardless here are his test 3 weeks after using the Test/winny stack. Im not bad mouthing, I have asked for my money back. The results are not conclusive with what I have experianced in the past using 500mg ew, or even 350mg test every week. I truly wish I was wrong and that one of you guys could post bloods showing different. Call me out for all I care. All I know is exactly what Im telling you. I am not trying to start trouble
Ive been on this site I think 3 years now. I have always helped others and logged my cycles the best I can with Regualar blood test. I'm pretty sure if "they" are as good as they say they are they already know who I am and its easy to see im just an average guy with literally no ties to a competeing company (hell I had a PM from "enquiring minds" asking my to tell them the email address I used to purchase my transdermal, Come on guys!... Thats an obvious no. Also why not just look up what email is associated with my SN on here. Just saying, none of us are hidden by any means), what other company does this anyway? Beacuse I'd like to know so I can try their stuff to. Trust me I would LOVE for this to take the place of the regualar methods of administering AAS. But results like this are just not conclusive to what they need to be.
Here is the link to the thread everyone is talking about in this thread. It was closed for unknown reasons to me. I didnt see any real anger or anything that bad happening unless I missed something and the post were deleted but I dont think any were.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/transdermal-test-not-effective-1140043-10.html
Again, Im not bashing anyone or trying to get banned. Hell I love this site and the Mods and especially needto for all his work and efforts. Hell the guy helped me get my ass back to regualar when NO doctor could (I had gone to I think 15 at the time and not one understood my issue, shutdown). I think that was 3 years ago now. Almost everything I have learned and taught others was literally taught to me by this site and Needto. Hell I have sent at least 50 new customers that way and to this site. I am simply sharing information that I have gathered and trying to yet again, help others out that may have a reason to ask for there money back. Everyone can draw their own conclusions and honestly, I hope you all get you own Bloods and post them up here. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS STUFF WORK! Its just not for me or my brother at this point and as the old saying goes, "If it aint broke, dont fix it". I will be pinning until more is learn't about this transdermal stuff.
That is that last thing I have to say on this subject. Take it for what you will
And ps. That whole raid thing. Yes That is a real story and I guess if anyone needs to see it, I wasnt arrested, and they did take the stuff. Its right on the little paper they left on top of the warrant to search my buddy. Now is it smart of me to post before I know Im in the clear. I dont know. But what was there was there so...
You all have any further questions you can search my Sn or rage223. Im on a few sites if I get banned for this. I hope not though!
not sure why you think you would get banned for posting blood results? this is interesting and what I told you i wanted to see a week ago on your other thread. LH and FSH are both solid yet his T is low. if i had to guess i would of said this person never recovered fully from their previous cycle. and whatever they are on is having no effect on their HPTA at all or atleast the body isn't recognizing it.
needtogetaas
New member
I would absolutely agree with you at this point bro. But not just one I would like to see a few and from some good long time members too. Big difference in a 5-100 post wounder 2011-2013 join date and a 10k plus poster with 2009 and older account. I should prob get some blood test my self too shit why not at this point.
But ether way at this point I got no dog in this fight. What ever is best for the members is the main concern so from today on (within reason) discuss as you all see fit. I am going to open up that other thread too and members can talk about that and any other threads they feel like talking on..
But keep it within the rules and keep it respectful to the mods here. We are on the members side no one else , however we are entitled to our opinions like everyone else. Respect us we will respect you..
needtogetaas
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needtogetaas
New member
I dont know if I'll get banned for this... But im going to try and do this as lightly as possible. I am showing you actual Blood tests. I guess I could get a little more technical and actually video tape my brother using the product 2x Everyday. Reguardless here are his test 3 weeks after using the Test/winny stack. Im not bad mouthing, I have asked for my money back. The results are not conclusive with what I have experianced in the past using 500mg ew, or even 350mg test every week. I truly wish I was wrong and that one of you guys could post bloods showing different. Call me out for all I care. All I know is exactly what Im telling you. I am not trying to start trouble
Ive been on this site I think 3 years now. I have always helped others and logged my cycles the best I can with Regualar blood test. I'm pretty sure if "they" are as good as they say they are they already know who I am and its easy to see im just an average guy with literally no ties to a competeing company (hell I had a PM from "enquiring minds" asking my to tell them the email address I used to purchase my transdermal, Come on guys!... Thats an obvious no. Also why not just look up what email is associated with my SN on here. Just saying, none of us are hidden by any means), what other company does this anyway? Beacuse I'd like to know so I can try their stuff to. Trust me I would LOVE for this to take the place of the regualar methods of administering AAS. But results like this are just not conclusive to what they need to be.
Here is the link to the thread everyone is talking about in this thread. It was closed for unknown reasons to me. I didnt see any real anger or anything that bad happening unless I missed something and the post were deleted but I dont think any were.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/transdermal-test-not-effective-1140043-10.html
Again, Im not bashing anyone or trying to get banned. Hell I love this site and the Mods and especially needto for all his work and efforts. Hell the guy helped me get my ass back to regualar when NO doctor could (I had gone to I think 15 at the time and not one understood my issue, shutdown). I think that was 3 years ago now. Almost everything I have learned and taught others was literally taught to me by this site and Needto. Hell I have sent at least 50 new customers that way and to this site. I am simply sharing information that I have gathered and trying to yet again, help others out that may have a reason to ask for there money back. Everyone can draw their own conclusions and honestly, I hope you all get you own Bloods and post them up here. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS STUFF WORK! Its just not for me or my brother at this point and as the old saying goes, "If it aint broke, dont fix it". I will be pinning until more is learn't about this transdermal stuff.
That is that last thing I have to say on this subject. Take it for what you will
And ps. That whole raid thing. Yes That is a real story and I guess if anyone needs to see it, I wasnt arrested, and they did take the stuff. Its right on the little paper they left on top of the warrant to search my buddy. Now is it smart of me to post before I know Im in the clear. I dont know. But what was there was there so...
You all have any further questions you can search my Sn or rage223. Im on a few sites if I get banned for this. I hope not though!
Your all good in my book rage don't even worry about it man. I know you are a good bro and I even posted that in your thread. Hope you got a chance to see my post.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/transdermal-test-not-effective-1140043-10.html
last post in that thread... Anyway bro dont worry about it no ones going to or had any plans to ban you or anyone over this shit. I'm in agreement and as you know it has always been in my interest to take care of the members..
I know what I got is good to go. But regaurdless Im' going to get blood test done my self too just because of all the people asking and because of your thread. Really my self and the rest of us can only thank you bro for being bold and honest and always sharing all that you do. Lets see what happens around here now. Thanks
You are all good in my book bro, if it didnt work or you feel it was ineffective, you have every right to post about.As long as you do it in a respectful manner and have substance behind you claims,you will never run into problems with me.I dont know if I'll get banned for this... But im going to try and do this as lightly as possible. I am showing you actual Blood tests. I guess I could get a little more technical and actually video tape my brother using the product 2x Everyday. Reguardless here are his test 3 weeks after using the Test/winny stack. Im not bad mouthing, I have asked for my money back. The results are not conclusive with what I have experianced in the past using 500mg ew, or even 350mg test every week. I truly wish I was wrong and that one of you guys could post bloods showing different. Call me out for all I care. All I know is exactly what Im telling you. I am not trying to start trouble
Ive been on this site I think 3 years now. I have always helped others and logged my cycles the best I can with Regualar blood test. I'm pretty sure if "they" are as good as they say they are they already know who I am and its easy to see im just an average guy with literally no ties to a competeing company (hell I had a PM from "enquiring minds" asking my to tell them the email address I used to purchase my transdermal, Come on guys!... Thats an obvious no. Also why not just look up what email is associated with my SN on here. Just saying, none of us are hidden by any means), what other company does this anyway? Beacuse I'd like to know so I can try their stuff to. Trust me I would LOVE for this to take the place of the regualar methods of administering AAS. But results like this are just not conclusive to what they need to be.
Here is the link to the thread everyone is talking about in this thread. It was closed for unknown reasons to me. I didnt see any real anger or anything that bad happening unless I missed something and the post were deleted but I dont think any were.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/transdermal-test-not-effective-1140043-10.html
Again, Im not bashing anyone or trying to get banned. Hell I love this site and the Mods and especially needto for all his work and efforts. Hell the guy helped me get my ass back to regualar when NO doctor could (I had gone to I think 15 at the time and not one understood my issue, shutdown). I think that was 3 years ago now. Almost everything I have learned and taught others was literally taught to me by this site and Needto. Hell I have sent at least 50 new customers that way and to this site. I am simply sharing information that I have gathered and trying to yet again, help others out that may have a reason to ask for there money back. Everyone can draw their own conclusions and honestly, I hope you all get you own Bloods and post them up here. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS STUFF WORK! Its just not for me or my brother at this point and as the old saying goes, "If it aint broke, dont fix it". I will be pinning until more is learn't about this transdermal stuff.
That is that last thing I have to say on this subject. Take it for what you will
And ps. That whole raid thing. Yes That is a real story and I guess if anyone needs to see it, I wasnt arrested, and they did take the stuff. Its right on the little paper they left on top of the warrant to search my buddy. Now is it smart of me to post before I know Im in the clear. I dont know. But what was there was there so...
You all have any further questions you can search my Sn or rage223. Im on a few sites if I get banned for this. I hope not though!
Aplopez8
Pro Bodybuilder
Thanks man.
Now I see what the problem is...
The doctors name is Plunk!
Bad test!
Lmao
kravmaga02
New member
I'm getting my bloods done on saturday or tuesday so we'll see more evidence soon. I have been applying it exactly as the instructions said to, and I'm also upping the dose on the test for the next few days to be sure it going strong by the time I get blood taken.
I'm hoping he just got a bad batch, if not then I'll be getting my money back from Gator and starting an actual cycle shortly thereafter lol
I'm hoping he just got a bad batch, if not then I'll be getting my money back from Gator and starting an actual cycle shortly thereafter lol
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psizzle_8
Guest
So you're saying I could be experiencing typical AAS side effects and my test levels not be changed? That's what confuses me...this isn't placebo, not for me at least.
yes, we all know you got a good bottle psizz. 
Just looks like low T with LH and FSH normal might be not so good bottle, ya dig? Blood don't lie baby!
Steve, I thought OP said HE was previously on Test Prop injectable, but his brother (whose blood work this is) was not on anything? Did I read or remember incorrectly?
Just looks like low T with LH and FSH normal might be not so good bottle, ya dig? Blood don't lie baby!Steve, I thought OP said HE was previously on Test Prop injectable, but his brother (whose blood work this is) was not on anything? Did I read or remember incorrectly?
kravmaga02
New member
yes, we all know you got a good bottle psizz.
Steve, I thought OP said HE was previously on Test Prop injectable, but his brother (whose blood work this is) was not on anything? Did I read or remember incorrectly?
yes these bloods are his brother's
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psizzle_8
Guest
Lol well I was just making sure. Thank you sugar.yes, we all know you got a good bottle psizz.
Steve, I thought OP said HE was previously on Test Prop injectable, but his brother (whose blood work this is) was not on anything? Did I read or remember incorrectly?
Headholio
New member
You gotta figure that even a really weak dose of test in a woman would be much more noticeable than in a guy.
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psizzle_8
Guest
Yeah, that's true. Definitely working for me.
So if anything maybe this guy's dose just was not strong
jeremyng25
New member
Very cool will be waiting to see this. I really really really wanted to buy these and almost spent around 500 the first few days of release but held off because I just felt unsure. If you're bloods come back great and a few others get good bloods ill most likely consider buying again. From what I understand and I could be wrong, transdermals are fairly easy to make and dose correct? I was hoping this would be the new wave of the future, something like this needs to be treated with respect and care
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I don't feel the question was answered, personally..
Forums are for spreading our ideas and getting help from each other. Its not wrong or bad for someone to post a negative review of something. Its just that way in the supplement world. Not everyone responds the same and each is entitled to his knowledge gathered according to how the product works for him. I know AAS aren't really supplements. But this kind of forum would not make me not buy the Transdermals, if there are either people with good reviews. Its not going to scared people away. The fact that a thread gets deleted in this situation does more towards me not purchasing ever due to seemingly shady stuff. I think more people feel the same.
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kravmaga02
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The thread wasn't deleted, it was locked for like 12 hours I guess to avoid mass hysteria lol then unlocked again.
True though that blood results showing low T are not going to be good for future purchases, and I imagine if more come back like that then a lot of people are gunna want their money back...
True though that blood results showing low T are not going to be good for future purchases, and I imagine if more come back like that then a lot of people are gunna want their money back...
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psizzle_8
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"tinytony" .. It's not even closed anymore lol
Instead of typing out that novel had you looked you would've noticed its back open
Instead of typing out that novel had you looked you would've noticed its back open
please keep us updated with no fear of running into problems with mods or admin.I am curious to see how effective this stuff is as well,i'd rather hear from people with bloodwork or atleast trial and error then some claims on a website, you guys are doing the right thing for the people out there that deserve it most, the customers.Kudos.
kravmaga02
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I'm not worried at all about the mods everyone here has been nothing but helpful to me. I know they are here to help us that is why this site is here, and if they didn't think this stuff was 100% g2g then I don't think they would tell us about it.
I think it's funny that people said the mods must be conspiring because they have something to gain. Shit I wouldn't care if they were getting kickbacks from Gator, I don't believe they would go through all this and lie for a big scam when they know people are gunna post bloods showing whether it's legit or not.
That would be bad for business and people would no longer trust advice from this site, so it doesn't add up. I've been in business for a few years and if the product ain't good then people ain't gunna come back or they're gunna come back unhappy. Both of which fuckin suck. So they wouldn't have much to gain off this, if anything it would be considered a loss on their part because of the hassle of dealing with all the pissed off members lol
If it is bunk, then either Gator fucked up on something, or he lied to the mods and gained their trust so he could use them to rep his shit. I'm not saying it is bunk, I'm just saying if it is I don't think the mods have a hand in it
Headholio
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I doubt anyone lied. If the stuff doesn't work, then it is most likely just an unsuccessful experiment. Someone made some transdermal juice, thinking it was a good idea, and maybe it isn't. When you are dealing with this kind of stuff, its not like its gone through FDA testing and approval, lol.
kravmaga02
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true statement
They didnt lie, the stuff is new to market and most they would be guilty of is buying the hype of how great it looked on paper, just as much as everyone else is.If it works as claimed, then great news for everyone and its going to be a fun ride! lol .If it doesnt, then they want to know just as much as everyone else.
Mods here arent crooked and care very much about the happiness of the customers and members.
i have no clue who gator is. is he related to crocodile? no clue who he is and have no financial interest in the guys product. that would be cool though because there are quite a few posters who are raving about them and some who aren't. as more people chime in with results and bloods we will learn more and more
if the poster above says he bested his personal best by 7 reps than there is no doubt the stuff works for him. you don't break those barriers with a placebo. and its not like he started out benching 150 either. the guy clapped 225 2 dozen or so times. that isn't someone who is a newb, thats someone who hit a barrier and blew threw it. those of you raving above its time to spend a few bucks and hit lab corp and get your results.
if the poster above says he bested his personal best by 7 reps than there is no doubt the stuff works for him. you don't break those barriers with a placebo. and its not like he started out benching 150 either. the guy clapped 225 2 dozen or so times. that isn't someone who is a newb, thats someone who hit a barrier and blew threw it. those of you raving above its time to spend a few bucks and hit lab corp and get your results.
El Hefe
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I'm sure everything is completely legit. People just forget pores on the skin were not created for absorbing transdermal AAS. It's not that they can't, there are just some variables involved. It's not as simple as 'everyone will automatically absorb and utilize 80% of the total applied solution'.
Not every person will react the same, nor will they absorb and utilize the same percentage of each compound (test, Tren, etc). People also differ in the way they respond injectables and orals.
Other factors can be time of day, temp, humidity, after a shower, application areas, etc.
Not every person will react the same, nor will they absorb and utilize the same percentage of each compound (test, Tren, etc). People also differ in the way they respond injectables and orals.
Other factors can be time of day, temp, humidity, after a shower, application areas, etc.
kravmaga02
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maybe... I have been experiencing some of the normal sides for Tren. Insomnia, night sweats, lack of sex drive
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psizzle_8
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One of the best damn posts I've seen to date regarding this damn transdermal controversy. Well done.
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psizzle_8
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No probThumbs up!
From your log, it seems like you've been experiencing some of the good effects of tren too, right?
kravmaga02
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Yup my strength has gone up alot especially in lower body lifts like leg press and deadlifts. My upper body doesn't look much different but it is still stronger.
I guess I just expected tren to have more dramatic effects cuz of the crazy reputation it has, but hey it ain't injectable so maybe it isn't really fair to compare it to other peoples past tren cycles.
I dunno though im new to tren and transdermals so what the hell do I know lol
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yes, we all know you got a good bottle psizz.
Steve, I thought OP said HE was previously on Test Prop injectable, but his brother (whose blood work this is) was not on anything? Did I read or remember incorrectly?
Haven't finished reading everything but yes you read that correct.
I'm almost sure we both have low test naturally. I am regularly in the 280-350 range and he has never touched aas but as far as I can see (by looking at lh and fish) he is right about the same as me. To be honest, I may just go to my endo and get out on hrt. Maybe have him do the same and cycle the stuff. Makes sense
And although it is an unfortunate thing that I was raided, if and when (I'm sure I will be) I'm charged having a script for test will surly help my case. I will argue that I suffered from low t (which I do) and was going to the black market because the scripts take 4-6 mths to actually get prescribed (because they want to see you actually have a problem). At least in my prior experience. Sorry didn't wanna hijack the thread.
Lefty78
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So transdermals are not new, and neither are aas, why all of a sudden can these guys make a transdermal that works? What are they doing that's unique that others can't or have not? I'm just wondering why this is a new trend here, I know it's been tested in years past and there were reason guys never converted from pinning before.
Bro tren is dramatic once it kicks In. There is no mistaking whether its working or not. Your old pr's will start dropping like flies, while you add new muscle and get shredded. Your getting some of the tren effects just not like you would from injectables at the same dose. I'd up the dose of the tren.
dusteefartz
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I don't think anyone was/is calling the mods liars..Unless I missed the thread on it. I am an old school guy and I feel the only real way is the tried and true way which is injectable...would it be nice to just be able to rub the lotion on it's skin....YES...but I just don't see it happening.
So I will stand back in the wings and wait for more bloods to surface and make my decision then.
So I will stand back in the wings and wait for more bloods to surface and make my decision then.
jeremyng25
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I just don't like seeing people saying that something can't be a placebo affect that has a physical effect on the body. I'm not sure if people realize how strong a placebo effect is. There are a few studies I have read one in particular where a doctor purposely gave a patient with cancer a vitamin pill and told him it was new technology. They had found the cure for cancer. His cancer went away and into remission. Somehow this story got to the press and they released the story. The patient saw the story and within a week the cancer was back. One month later he died. My point is that only the blood tests will give proof as to the quality of the product. A placebo effect can produce amazing results...and definitely an AAS mentality (aggression, strength, etc)
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It's some new products that have been brought to the community. It's not some new or unique technology. Right now we don't have overwhelming evidence that proves they do in fact work as good as injectables. People are still testing them to see how they stack up. There are some unflattering blood results that have shown up and we are awaiting more to surface. Some have reported great results while others have not. So there is some inconsistency going on with the quality or user application. I suggest you sit back and await the outcome before you or anyone else pulls the trigger.
I've been lifting long enough to know that a 7 rep increase is no placebo effect. And I agree with you that the only tried and true method to know if its legit is through bloods. We will know soon enough when more bloods surface.
I urge everyone who is on them to go get blood work. It's cheap and you will know for sure.
cancer is different than lifting. if i gave a 150 pound high school nerd who never lifted in his life a pill and said this is gonna make you bench 300 would he be able to? no its not realistic.
cancer can be beaten in some cases without anything, the body can fight it and beat it on its own with no help from chemo, surgery, etc. meditation, prayer, etc is amazing vs. being stressed out all the time.. it would create a much better environment. but thats just another subject.
yes i believe in placebo but we are all experienced lifters and a placebo is not gonna make us PR 2 plates by 7 reps.
kravmaga02
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I have been applying mine to the inside of my thighs and sometimes to the inside of my bicep. Haven't done anything different from what the instructions on their site said.
Got my blood taken this morning so we will be seeing round 2 of blood results here in a couple days.
I'm sure you were doing it right bro. The bloods will tell for sure and we will know.
kravmaga02
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ya. Hopefully all will be good, if not I'll talk with the guy and figure something out.
jimroid31
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I was able to get 90% of my money back via paypal. Just filed a claim and put item not as described. Was refunded that day. Only reason I even did that was because he took sime money for an order and then stopped emailing me back. Really thought these transdermals had some promise.
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