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Totally New to SARMS. Any advice on stacks?

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napalm26

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[FONT=&quot]Want to start by thanking everyone that's contributing to these forums. It's been a great source of information so far. So I want to give you a bit of information about me before I ask my questions. I'm 34 years old. Soldier of 10 years. BJJ practitioner for 8. Around 16% body fat currently. While I was in the military and regularly on the mats I was around 9%. Over the last few years, I've been having trouble cutting fat and my joints are killing me. I've modified my diet and training but nothing is really working. I found adding Testosterone to my supplements actually helped a bit but not too much. My doctor said I'm developing Osteoarthritis from years as a soldier. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]So I've begun looking for ways to cut fat and build functional strength. I don't want to be huge but refuse to sit back and watch time destroy my body if there's any way to prevent it. I've taken general health supplements but it wasn't until I took Testosterone boosters that I saw some real results. I currently live a largely nomadic lifestyle in my current career. Lots of travel. I began looking into SARMs as it seems relatively safe and simple to maintain during travel. My problem is I'm finding lots of contradictory information across the internet and forums. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Here's what I'm asking. Exactly where can I find a step by step explanation on what I should take and for how long. Like that these three for two months then stop for two months and take this. Something like that. Also, has anyone taken SARMs in an effort to stay "young". In that, you aren't trying to get huge but want to stay strong and flexible. Has anyone had any international legal issues with acquiring SARMs or travelling with them? [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Thanks again for any advice or cautions you can provide.[/FONT]
 
Hi my friend first off let me thank you for being in the armed services. Sarm are great as long as you get them from a good source that's the most important thing, there are plenty about and I'm sure some of the other guys here will point you towards sarms1 and they do have good reviews. The sarms I think that would be great for you would be rad140 testolone it will be much better than any testosterone booster, then I would also use gw you can run this for as long as you like it will help your cardio and get that body fat down, the I would use mk677 this one is beautiful the effects are like growth hormone so will benefit you in so many way and you can run this permanently but it does take a little time to get going hope this helps good luck
 
spursmad said:
Hi my friend first off let me thank you for being in the armed services. Sarm are great as long as you get them from a good source that's the most important thing, there are plenty about and I'm sure some of the other guys here will point you towards sarms1 and they do have good reviews. The sarms I think that would be great for you would be rad140 testolone it will be much better than any testosterone booster, then I would also use gw you can run this for as long as you like it will help your cardio and get that body fat down, the I would use mk677 this one is beautiful the effects are like growth hormone so will benefit you in so many way and you can run this permanently but it does take a little time to get going hope this helps good luck
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It was my pleasure to serve. Appreciate the help. Are there detailed instructions on how much and how long to take these three? Should I take them all together? Thanks
 
I could only tell you my doses gw and mk you can run indefinitely rad you can run for 12 weeks and upward don't worry you will get all the answers you need from this site just give the more experience guys time to reply
 
I started taking SARMS about 4 years ago, i believe. I just started a cutting stack. Im a little confused on the dosage. Ive read that Im supposed to take it for 12 weeks at 25 of GW once daily and 50 of S-4....Is this correct, because before I was told to take 50 GW and 70-100 of S-4....but I also was taking Osta at the time and it was about 25 daily. Any help would be great.
 
Just like AAS, each SARM has different characteristics.. creating a stack is simply putting together the pieces based on your goals.

I'd say, In my opinion, these are the ideal stacks based on goals.


Healing, Anti-Aging, Rejuvenation
MK-2866 w/
MK-677

Pure Size
LGD-4033 w/
Rad-140

Cutting/Hardening/Recomp
LGD-4033 or Rad-140 w/
S-4

Things like GW-50, and SR9009 can be added to any stack for added benefits.

Based on your goals, I would say go with MK-2866 and MK-677. MK-2866 will be your anabolic muscle building compound, which will aid in all around athlete performance. It will also aid with healing your body. MK-677 is a crazy compound, it's going to greatly increase your bodies GH production which is going to help with anti-aging, muscle growth, fat loss, healing.. just going to give a better quality of life. 25mg a day is compared to being on 2-3iu of actually GH.

How long to run them is based on if you are on TRT or not. If you are not on TRT, I'd go 3 months with the MK-2866at 25mg/day, followed by 2 months off. If you are on TRT, I would increase the length of time to 5-6 months. With the MK-677, you can run as long as you want.. and I would recommend using it for long periods. 12 months minimum.
 
I think in your case, Ostarine is a great choice because it works well for recovery and helps with joint issues. A good dose is 25mg per day. Nutrobal is also another one that is good for healing and has similar characteristics to HGH. A dose of 25mg per day is also good for Nutrobal. Most people will run them in 8-12 week cycles and then take time off.
 
Check out this video I made on SARMS -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/new-video-sarms-explained-46877.html

It'll answer a lot of your questions.

I also recommend heading on over to evolutionary.org and reading all the different SARMS profiles -> https://www.evolutionary.org/steroids/SARMS

Based on your goals, I would run the triple stack + nutrobal.

Triple stack -> The triple stack is combination of S4 + ostarine + cardarine. http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocolCardarine is a great SARM for fat loss and endurance
Ostarine is a great SARM for recovery
S4 is a great SARM for strength gains
You get the best of everything by stacking the three together.

Nutrobal -> https://www.evolutionary.org/nutrobal-mk-677-ibutamoren
 
muskate said:
Check out this video I made on SARMS -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/new-video-sarms-explained-46877.html

It'll answer a lot of your questions.

I also recommend heading on over to evolutionary.org and reading all the different SARMS profiles -> https://www.evolutionary.org/steroids/SARMS

Based on your goals, I would run the triple stack + nutrobal.

Triple stack -> The triple stack is combination of S4 + ostarine + cardarine. http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocolCardarine is a great SARM for fat loss and endurance
Ostarine is a great SARM for recovery
S4 is a great SARM for strength gains
You get the best of everything by stacking the three together.

Nutrobal -> https://www.evolutionary.org/nutrobal-mk-677-ibutamoren
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I want to thank you guys so much for the info. Exactly what I needed. A couple quick questions. You guys have given me great info on how long the cycles are. How long are the "off cycles"? So if I'm doing the triple stack 8-12 weeks, how much time should I take off? I think the triple stack is the best option for me as I would prefer the simplicity of a set regimen over a set time to test results.

Next question. After the cycle, do I lose the benefits of these compounds? As in do the gains go away and the elevated energy, etc etc. I would surely keep training.

How much is in each bottle? I'm seeing the dosage but not how much is in each bottle? I'm wondering if it's like $109 for a months supply of S4.

So a cycle would be S4 + ostarine + cardarine+Nutrobal . Then take hcgenerate? I didn't really understand this part of the article.

Gentlemen, thanks again. You've all been a huge help so far and I feel ready to give this a shot.
 
One more question. What blood work would you recommend I get prior to starting a cycle? I want to keep track of exactly what the SARMs are doing to my body. Thanks.
 
napalm26 said:
One more question. What blood work would you recommend I get prior to starting a cycle? I want to keep track of exactly what the SARMs are doing to my body. Thanks.
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You honestly don't really need to get blood work done before doing a cycle of SARMS since they are EXTREMELY minimal in the way of side effects but getting blood work done and being extra cautious is never a bad idea.

When you book the appointment with your doctor, please get a full physical done along with blood work.


With the blood work, make sure to get the following values checked -
testosterone - free and total
thyroid - T3, T4, TSH
estrogen
progesterone
prolactin
cholesterol values
kidney values
liver enzymes
prostate values
fasting blood glucose


When you get the results, make sure to ask for a print off so you can post photos on the board for us to review. Just because something is in the normal range, doesn't mean it's optimal. The ratio of hormones is also very important. Doctors are trained in a 'black and white' sort of way. They are taught that if something is in the normal range, it's good.


That's not true. For example, you might have normal testosterone levels, but the range is 200-1000. If your values are 250, that is technically normal, but that is normal for a 70 year old man. A healthy 40 year old males values should be more like 600.
 
muskate said:
You honestly don't really need to get blood work done before doing a cycle of SARMS since they are EXTREMELY minimal in the way of side effects but getting blood work done and being extra cautious is never a bad idea.

When you book the appointment with your doctor, please get a full physical done along with blood work.


With the blood work, make sure to get the following values checked -
testosterone - free and total
thyroid - T3, T4, TSH
estrogen
progesterone
prolactin
cholesterol values
kidney values
liver enzymes
prostate values
fasting blood glucose


When you get the results, make sure to ask for a print off so you can post photos on the board for us to review. Just because something is in the normal range, doesn't mean it's optimal. The ratio of hormones is also very important. Doctors are trained in a 'black and white' sort of way. They are taught that if something is in the normal range, it's good.


That's not true. For example, you might have normal testosterone levels, but the range is 200-1000. If your values are 250, that is technically normal, but that is normal for a 70 year old man. A healthy 40 year old males values should be more like 600.
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Will do. Any insight on my previous questions about the cycle length and costs?
 
napalm26 said:
Will do. Any insight on my previous questions about the cycle length and costs?
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Here is how I would run your triple stack cycle

Weeks 1 - 8 (if you order the triple stack cycle option on sarms1.com you will have enough SARMS for the full 8 weeks. It's also at a discounted price then buying the vials individually)
ostarine 25mg (0.5mL) per day
S4 50mg (1mL) per day
cardarine 20mg (1mL) per day

Weeks 9 -12
HCGenerate ES 5 capsules/day

Take the SARMS with breakfast each morning. After week 12, you are safe to start another cycle of SARMS.

The entire cycle and mini PCT will cost you about $500. That's not that bad at all for 12 weeks.
 
That's not bad at all. Thanks, man. Really appreciate it. I'm going to spend June and July training all natural. Basic supplements. Then I'll run the 12-week cycle you recommended. Appreciate the exact breakdown. Will share my results here of course. Thanks again gentlemen.
 
muskate said:
Here is how I would run your triple stack cycle

Weeks 1 - 8 (if you order the triple stack cycle option on sarms1.com you will have enough SARMS for the full 8 weeks. It's also at a discounted price then buying the vials individually)
ostarine 25mg (0.5mL) per day
S4 50mg (1mL) per day
cardarine 20mg (1mL) per day

Weeks 9 -12
HCGenerate ES 5 capsules/day

Take the SARMS with breakfast each morning. After week 12, you are safe to start another cycle of SARMS.

The entire cycle and mini PCT will cost you about $500. That's not that bad at all for 12 weeks.
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Is this the one you're referring to? http://www.sarms1.com/sarms-triple-stack-protocol

It's the only triple stack I see and is prices at $637 and doesnt have all three sarms you mentioned. Would you happen to have a direct link?
 
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