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rubixcube1

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Hey! I'm totally new to your board and to roids in general. I've read some of your progress reports and WOW it sure is fucken inspirational. I bought the fina kit with 1 load of pellets and the 2gF kit from A. I'm reading a lot of you guys are adding androgel. What is that? How do I add it to my solution? I'm also planning to coincide the fina with testovorin. These are my stats now and now you will see why roids are my way to go...

Age: 20
Height : 5'3
Weight: 95lbs

After I make the solution, how many ml/cc should I inject? How often should I do it? How much of the testovorin should I do and when? BTW the testovorin is 250mgs. Thanks a lot. I appreciate all the tips you guys can give me.
 
well ok...

Androgel is just test in a gel form that you rub all over your body. You dont need it for the cycle you want to do.

Have you been lifitng long? You seem very very light. I would look into improving your diet before hitting the stuff. i regret that a lot.

If you are going to do fina no matter what anyone says , at your weight i would only do 37mg every other day ( 1/2 a cc).

For the test i would do 83 mg every other day (1/3rd a cc)
 
every time i look at pics of already made fina the finished jar looks way to small to hold enough for a cycle? is it enough or is there something extra?
 
rubixcube1

Welcome to the board, keep reading and doing your research, you have plenty of time to start gear, at 5'3

I would wait another year before I start gear.


At your age I was 5'3 and grew 3 more inches by the time I was 23

Now at 51 I think I am starting to shrink.
 
hah good looking man but ive made up my mind and want to get on this asap. what kind of diet is good to build mass with my weight/size with fina/test?
 
So you know that steroids can prematurely close your growth plates causing you to be shorter then you might have been otherwise? And you wish to do them anyway?
 
Rubixcube1, I would advise you to learn how to gain at least 15-20 pounds of muscle mass with natural diet and training before you use any drug. However, you seem quite intent on using AAS right now. May I ask, what kind of training do you do? How long have you been doing it? What kind of rsults have you gotten? Whats your diet like?
 
Go to the gym 4 days a week. I got a REALLY fast metabolism caused by something called chrones disease. It is a disease that affects the small intestine and I had a sever rush of it when I was younger which is what kept me short. For me to gain weight like a normal person, I'd have to eat twice as much as a 'normal' person. If I stop working out for even one week, everything that was gained is practically lost. Which is why I plan to do this cycle. Maybe this will be the one and only as all I'm looking for is a base that will hopefully stay. I eat 3 meals a day, but sometimes incomplete as I'm in school and don't really watch it. If you, silent method, or anyone else can help me come up with a diligent diet plan, that'd be cool because I know I can follow directions that other people give :).
 
first things first, 3 meals won't cut it. If you're intent enough to inject foreign substances into your body, then you should have the determination to start eating 5-6 meals a day. 4 days in the gym should be fine for now, just make sure your intensity is high. But i can't stress teh food part enough. I always thought it was impossible for me to gain any weight, and decided to do gear. Well before I did anything, I started eating a ton more food. Well guess what, I went up 20 lbs in 2 months... So make sure your diet is really good, and i think you'll be fine. That, and make sure you get some sleep. 8 hour would be good
 
This is got to be a joke. My fuckin dog weighs more than you!

I eat 3 meals a day, but sometimes incomplete as I'm in school and don't really watch it

And you want to juice? :FRlol:
 
Go to Wendy's every night at 1am and get a triple. Then head to sheets and eat a half dozen donuts. Then throw in 200mgs of deca, 250mgs of test, and 37.5 mgs of Fina a day and you may hit 115.
 
Bar Room Hero said:
Go to Wendy's every night at 1am and get a triple. Then head to sheets and eat a half dozen donuts. Then throw in 200mgs of deca, 250mgs of test, and 37.5 mgs of Fina a day and you may hit 115.
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Actually, I would have no idea how to dose someone that weighs as much as my leg.
 
Bro you absolutely must eat more then 3 meals a day. You have to eat at least 5x a day, this is the core of your problem. Steroids won't work miracles, if you don't eat right and train right they will do nothing.
 
You realize your risk of cancer may be increased as much as 20 ties due to here is a partial list of dietary guidlines you may be interested in...

Crohn's Disease

Crohn's disease occurs normally between the ages of 14 and 32. However, there are more cases being reported in children and other ages. The attacks may occur every few months the every few years and if the disease continues for several years then bowels can be damaged. The disease may increase chances for cancer by perhaps as much as 20 times. Symptoms may include loss of appetite, weight loss, abdominal pains, diarrhea, rectal bleeding, fever, headaches, and digestive problems. Crohn's is not contagious and its cause is still not known. Studies seem to indicate that free radical damage could be involved and a lack of vitamins C and E could be a factor.

Nutrient / Supplement Importance - Scale ( 1 - 10 ) Helpful notes

Essential Fatty acids - 10
extremely important for repair of digestive tract and it also reduces the inflammation associated with crohn's disease. Fatty acids are found in omega fatty acids from fish oil, flax seed oil, and borage seed oil.

Multi-vitamin & Mineral supplement - 10
contains vitamin E , vitamin C , manganese, and zinc and all of these are helpful in both the treatment and prevention of Crohns. The nutrients found in a daily supplement are needed for good general health and well being.

Aloe Vera - 9
this herb helps restore flexibility and reduce inflammation and really nice if combined with kava kava, ginseng, or passion flower.

Acidophilus - 10
friendly bacteria needed for good bowel and colon health. Maybe combined with Lactobacillus rhanosus, Bifidobacterium longum, and Lactobacillus plantarum in a combination such as Botana Cleanse (see link below)

Vitamin E - 6
important anti-oxidant that help with repair of intestinal tract.

Vitamin C - 8 C
vitamins are essential in increasing immunity and helps to prevent inflammation works better with bio-flavonoids.

Vitamin B - 8
helps prevent anemia, B12 helps digestion.
Zinc 8 enhances healing and the immune system problems resulting from crohn's disease. Found in a good multi-vitamin and mineral supplement.

Folic Acid - 8
helps the human body in producing new cells.

Aloe Vera - 7
aloe vera is an herbal remedy that helps for Crohn's disease because it softens stools and also has a healing effect on the entire digestive system.
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Some more info for the rest of us...
Living with Chrones Crohn's disease


Crohn's is an autoimmune disease. By this, we mean, that the body thinks that another part of the body is a foreign object. Because of this, the immune system begins to attack that part of the body trying to kill it (like rheumatoid arthritis). Crohn's is a disease where the immune system believes that the intestines and stomach is a foreign object. It is reported by the Crohn's and Colitis Foundation of America that one million Americans suffer with Crohn's and Colitis.


Mostly, this manifests itself in severe stomach pains mainly after eating meals, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea and rectal bleeding. Often, patients cannot finish their meals without pain. In these cases, a meal substitution like Ensure helps. Another over-the-counter product that helps is Pedialyte. These help the body from becoming dehydrated.
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solidspine said:
rubixcube1

Welcome to the board, keep reading and doing your research, you have plenty of time to start gear, at 5'3

I would wait another year before I start gear.


At your age I was 5'3 and grew 3 more inches by the time I was 23

Now at 51 I think I am starting to shrink.
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I agree wait. Did you ever go to a doc about HGH thearpy. It may not be to late. I am being serious here too!

Peace
 
I talked to my GF who is a dietician and she said one reason for your short stature is malnutrician from your croans desease and low nutrient absorbtion.. This is VERY similar to Colitis like Mike Francios had. I would think Anavar would be about the only thing you could use safly. And you know you have to watch what you eat due to your disease.
 
The roids and weight gain shakes could actually be helpful (or not) to this guy's conditions along with all the right vitamins and stuff but this dude needs to be working with a specialist, that's for sure.

Bro, don't go messin with this stuff without the proper medical supervison.
 
Bro for the most part you have been given some good advice here. I'm no expert on AS but I would definitely take Quads advice and see a doctor about HgH therapy before self administering any AS.
I started researching AS and reading these boards around 1 1/2 years ago and I didn't take my first injection until last week. At 20 years old you have plenty of time to learn all you can and then make an intelligent decision based on what you have learned.
 
Wait a few more years

You should try to gain another 15 lbs naturally and then think about doing roids. I would wait a few more years too. With your metabolism you need to eat at least 6xs a day. If school is in the way, do your cycle over summer vacation or so. Don't just think about eating a lot too. You need to sleep at leat 7-8 hours when your cycling. Don't do anything you'll regret later. Good luck though. Do more research before you start your cycle. Go to the diet board for more tips. Peace. Bigwillster
 
Silent Method : you're exactly right. u nailed the disease on the nose. It hit me when i was around 10 and had 2 bursts since then and everything has been stable for 4 years. I was offered the HGH therapy when I was younger but my parents refused it as it could later damage me so I would be infertile (now im planning to do roids, how ironic). When I was 18 I had an x-ray of my hand done to check how much growing I had left to do and my doctor said I was practically 97% done growing. So what kind of diet would go well with my fina/test cycle?
 
If you rally weigh 95 pounds the only diet I can think of is eat your ass off. Eat anything you can get your hands on every chance you get.. I to would wait another year or so, you may be a late developer. If that's the case you still have some growing to do. BamBam
 
hey bro, you need to look into this before starting anything, but maybe you could benefit from b-12 injections. sure would help with the eating.
 
Talk to doc

I am not he most knowledgeable person on AS but I do have a friend suffering from your same condition. It is a serious problem and your should ask your doc about taking AS before you do it could really hurt you. From my knowledge AS can lower your immune system even more than it already is this doesn't seem wise.
 
the disease itself is and has been undercontrol. it's the malnutrition and weight problem that still stayed. i suffer from no pain or anything now except that i can't gain weight for shit! does your appetite go up with fina/test?
 
Rubixcube1, buy the book "Power Eating" by Susan M. Kleiner. It is published by Human Kinetics. It's very easy to read and easy to follow. Learn to apply the methods, learn how to train, train hard and you will grow.

At this stage I'd be hooking up with an endocrinologist before using anything like fina or test.
 
If you can't gain by eating, gear is not going to help that much.

Even if you have a crew of 100 instead of 10 you aren't going to build a house without materials.
 
hell...i'd see if the doc would prescribe you some HGH(Human Growth Hormone) and maybe you could grow off that. I know people that are extremely small for their age and the doc gave it to them...but I don't really know shit about GH so that's just a suggestion..............MUDVAYNE
 
are there any anabolic forms of GH or anything that I might be able to get through a source? Exact name would be appreciated.
 
rubixcube1 said:
its too late for that. my bone plates are almost completely closed.
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You DEFINITELY need to get a second opinion. They misdiagnosed my brother as well and he was very short until he was like 17. This was when he got a second opinion and got on HGH. He was prolly about 5'3". He's now 5'9". I'd go to a different doc and get on that HGH. You sound like the perfect candidate. And stay away from gear until you get this kind of shit ironed out. After you get off the HGH the doc will prolly prescribe some Test to help you grow. Then you don't even have to worry about underground shit.

Oh yeah, and EAT!! Gear does nothing if you only put down food 3x/day.
 
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