I am all for hearing about Casey's training and diet approaches, never said anything about not wanting to hear about that. By the way he did not start out with Arthur Jones, he went with Arthur after he was already a monster. And maybe if Casey comes here and says his work with Arthur transformed his physique then we should all start using strictly Nautilas machines. So it was a job and sponsor. Can't blame a guy for wanting to make a living. But who here thinks they will be able to train like Casey, and eat like Casey, if they are not cycling like Casey?