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too much benzoate? enanthate pain EXPERT only

I was not a "weekend warrior" at this by no means. I do think you tried to make it too strong with the 450mg/ml. I have NEVER had any pain and neither has anyone else using a 3%BA 13%BB ratio. It works for everything. All these people complaining about test prop at 100mg/ml hurting.. cry babies. Make it with 3/13 ratio and you have no pain with any compound.
 
Just warm the EO enough on an eye in a pyrex measure glass. It's tempered. Set eye on low. EO has a low flash point.
 
Please ignore my number of posts and don`t use the figure as an indicator of my knowledge with respect to these issues, I`m a medical doctor and synthetic organic chemist with ten years synthesizing bioidentical and artificial androgens and anabolic steroids.
Your problem is abundantly clear at first glance, you use benzyl benzoate. Steroids are not meant to be soluble to the tune of 450mgml and trying to construct a system that will handle that for whatever reason could be considered in some circles as irresponsible behavior where your body is concerned.
Here is what is happening. YOu use `magic dissolving solution`` or BB in order to bring you concentration of enanthate up well over its natural limit of dissolution in vegetable oil of slightly over 200mgml. Upon introduction of the fluid into a muscle to form a depot the body will absorb the most attractive molecules first. BB is very attractive to the non polar lipid membrane of the cells that make up body tissue and it is quickly sucked up into the cells of muscle where the depot is located, it doesn`t go into the circulatory system to any significant degree like the oil. Now after the BB is gone you have a huge lump of crystals ready to abscess and end up as a puddle on your bathroom floor when it expels itself as a (hopefully) sterile exudate or possibly septic in worst case. There is a very easy solution, don`t be crazy with your dosing and add 25% of a thick oil like castor, the thicker the oil generally the more it will dissolve, lose the BB it is poisonous and is the actual culprit in the illness known as T400 fever. BB has a LD50 or dose where 50% of subjects will die of only 1mg per kg of body weight, stick to 4-5% BA or chlorobutanol is sesame, grape or corn oil as these have the least tendancy towards rancidity. Canola and olive both are too aromatic in nature and will get rancid easily. Filtering is designed as a means of sterilization without using heat, but always use heat and just particulate filter, 2hours at about 120C will do it, sesame may roast a little bit and look slightly darker but you haven`t hurt the steroid.

To treat the pain, anti inflammatory and antipyretic tylenol will be fine, if it gets infected you may want to see a physician for antibiotic but by using it you will get the infection again and again until you fight it. It the pain makes it to a joint you may need pain med with more serious indications like hydrocodone or propoxyphene, in serious cases I`ve seen pain so bad due to septic joint that near comatose conditions needed to be applied in addition to high dose fentanyl to keep the person sane, arthritic infection is the mother of pain just behind burn. To attempt to keep a depot from crashing you can use hot compress and massage but just don`t exceed 250mgml and save yourself all this trouble, throw out your BB too.




I am at my whits end. I need an expert and not a weekend warrior. Here is my situation.
I started at a standard 2%BA and 20%BB with grapeseed oil for a 450mg/ml TEST ENANTHATE homebrew. Everything was vacumn filtered through a buchner funnel with a .80uM glass pre filter and a .22uM Mixed Celluose Ester membrane. Then bottled and cooked at 240F. First shot of 1cc in the glute crippled me. Next .5cc in right shoulder resulted in same thing. Next shot was diluted 50% with sterile oil and into left shoulder, pain was less but still there. Now best friend takes 1cc of the original 450mg/ml. He combines it with 1cc of OMNADREN250 and 1cc of British Dragon equipoise for a total of 3cc and shoots right delt with NO PAIN. All of my pain sets in the next day and continues for 4 days. Im assuming the hormone is crystalizing in my arm So here are my questions
#1 none of my solution crashes in the bottle but is it possible that it can still crash inside arm.
#2 If so do you think i should add more benzyl benzoate to potentially hold the hormone in the depot? maybe 25-30%
#3 Is it possible that the Benzyl Benzoate is causing the pain. Can too much actually hurt?
#4 If the hormone is crashing in arm because the enanthate concentration is to high then why didnt it crash in friends arm with all the other steroids combined?
 
just got some info on another site that i should stay away from any enathate from china as it has carbolic acid inside of it....thats is causing pain. They suggested a switch to cyp. Dont know how reliable his info was but he is the moderator with 8,000 posts so hopefully he knows
 
only problem is that my friend can use the 450mgml along with an omnadren and equi200 all in the same 3cc shot and have no pain....hows that work?
 
UPDATE: Just got my new cypionate powder from my same source and using my enanthate recipe did a shot yesterday and NO PAIN!!!!! Enanthate from china is garbage
 
UPDATE: Just got my new cypionate powder from my same source and using my enanthate recipe did a shot yesterday and NO PAIN!!!!! Enanthate from china is garbage

You made a painless 450mg/ml concentration of test cyp? I was under the impression that cyp wouldn't even hold at 450mg/ml let alone be painless...
 
BENZYL BENZOATE is used to kill lice by DEYSTROYING THEIR NERVOUS SYSTEM........So why would you put it in the gear at around 16%...? Thats a big chunk of poison in it not...? Now i'm sure that there is a good reason why its there..... i'm sure we have been told that it helps carry the gear into the body or "some reason" but do you really know ...? have you talked to someone who has worked in the chemical industry for at least 25 years and truly knows what he is talking about....? No wonder we have injection site pain.....It KILLS NERVOUS SYSTEMS.....!!!!! could everyone please think about this ..... thats a pretty please with sugar on top..... google it.
 
Where should I start...

Why make it at 450mg/ml? When you can just up the amount of ml's per dose?

I've made

Mesterolone
Testosterone base
Testosterone enanthate
Testosterone propionate
Testosterone Acetate
Test.. cypio..
test..decanoate
test..undecanoate
Testosterone Phenypropionate
Drostanolone propionate
Drostanolone enanthate
Testosterone Isocaproate
Trenbolone Acetate
Nandrolone decanoate
Nandrolone phenylpropionate
Trenbolone enanthate
Oxymetholone
Oxandrolone
Stanozlol
Methandrostendone
Boldenone Undecylenate
Methenolone enanthate

All into injectables,the trick is to play with the BB/BA/EO ratio, yes thats right sometimes you have to use all three to keep it from crashing.

FYI all my shit came from China and it never hurt,it's not shit.

The "flaw" was in the cooking.
 
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