Thoughts on Var, Winny, Dbol, Primo

[Agent Escobar]

Hello patrons of EF!

I am in my mid 20's 6' 200lbs and heading towards a first cycle.

I am familiar with proper training and diet and would like to gain a reasonable amount, optomistically 10-15lbs lbm within a 6-10 week window.

Although, another reason is just to find out what it feels like to have it in my system.

4 weeks with dbol @ 30mg/day is about all I have really decided on thusfar. lol.

I have arimidex, nolva and proviron available at the moment.
usage and dosages dependant on what my final decision regarding the cycle is.

Primo (400mg/week) and Var (40mg/day) is, of course, my #1 desire. However, the costs of that particular cycle are past my preferred expenditure threshold.

With that, comes in Winny and Dbol.

I have been researching just about every anabolic/androgenic substance known to man for almost a year now and have narrowed my interests down to these four. There are a variety of stacks I could run, basically what I am trying to do is maximize gains while minimizing sides and $$$ spent.

And yes, obviously test/deca/eq etc would be better suited for that but I would like to work within the constraints of the 4 chemicals in the title.

Thank you for humoring me.

 

[serbyte]

100mg primo EOD weeks 1-8
50mg Var ED weeks 1,2 and 7,8
30mg Dbol ED weeks 3 thru 6
100mg Prop EOD weeks 3 thru 8

You could also add in proviron to accompany the test, to control estrogen and get the most out of your gear.

Your natty test begins to get suppresed from primo and var only after about 2 weeks, and thats when you throw in the test and dbol. Dbol goes for 4 weeks to be safe, and then gets replaced with the Var again. This Cycle minimizes How hard and long you are shut down, and allows your body to recoupe fast.

For PCT I would use, HGH(half a kit) 2iu ED for at least a few weeks, allong with the clomid and nolva. Alot of guys badmouth HGH but it is good for keeping fat off, not going catabolic, and it helps your natty test bounce back alot faster.

If you know how to lift and eat, you will put on at least 15 pounds of solid muscle and keep more than 90% of it.

Winny is just like Var just not as good for you. you could use it instead of the var for the last 2 weeks to help lean out.

 

[Agent Escobar]

Interesting, thanks!

any more thoughts out there?