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xxbignipperxx

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What have you stacked it with?

I'm thinking test, anavar and winny?

EQ hasn't done much for me. I'm trying to go next cycle minimum bloat with not anti-e's.

What were your winny dosages? How were your gains? And has anyone seen significant fat loss using winny? I know this may be a myth, but I still hear this over and over. Also a friend of mine was running winny and was telling me he was getting really bad cramping? Sounds like it was from the winny and not being hydrated enough?
 
rogerthedog said:
I did winny with tren while cutting for a comp. I was on 50mg of winny and 75mg tren per day. I came in pretty sharp. Didn't suffer any cramps but I was drinking a lot of water.
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Is winny 1-7 Alpha Akylated? Did you got IM or oral?
 
Yes it is.
I was doing shots. The last two weeks I was chucking it in delts and calves which did give me a little more volume in them (not localised growth).
 
rogerthedog said:
Yes it is.
I was doing shots. The last two weeks I was chucking it in delts and calves which did give me a little more volume in them (not localised growth).
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I better go IM then...don't want it passing through my liver lol. ED shots...damn. I get scared when I hear of injecting winny/liquid dbol. I just have this thought of it being dirty and crystallized when compared to oil solutions.
 
IM is deffo the way to go, IMO.
The only problem I had with the winny was the big crystals bunging up the 23 gauge pins, but all you do is pull back the plunger a bit and try again.
 
Its not 1-7 its 17aa. Double carbon bond in the 17th position.
 
xxbignipperxx said:
I better go IM then...don't want it passing through my liver lol. ED shots...damn. I get scared when I hear of injecting winny/liquid dbol. I just have this thought of it being dirty and crystallized when compared to oil solutions.
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It WILL go through your liver!?! winstrol depot is still 17aa, just like the tablets thats why you can drink it. IMO the only reason for choosing inj over oral is possibly less wasted during metabolism.
 
I recently ran 50mg winnie (depot)ED w/75mg fina ED, 300mg Primo PW, 25mg Proviron ED and 80mcg Clen ED. Worked like a charm. Although, the one thing I did change for my 2nd and most recent contest was I had ran out of winnie depot and went with tabs. This allowed me to run the winnie all the way up to showtime. I stopped injections 3 days prior to show to avoid having any knots or bad injections showing up. I believe I will always do this in the future as well. It helped keep me vascular, hard and dry all the way through. I also bumped my winnie up to 100mgED for the last 5 days.
 
xxbignipperxx said:
What have you stacked it with?

I'm thinking test, anavar and winny?

EQ hasn't done much for me. I'm trying to go next cycle minimum bloat with not anti-e's.

What were your winny dosages? How were your gains? And has anyone seen significant fat loss using winny? I know this may be a myth, but I still hear this over and over. Also a friend of mine was running winny and was telling me he was getting really bad cramping? Sounds like it was from the winny and not being hydrated enough?
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i did winny and NPP, was a great cycle!
 
I would stack:
winny/npp/test
winny/tren/test
winny/eq/test

Winny/anavar is not a good idea. running 2 17aa's concurrently is never a good idea imho. Plus I don't think there would be much synergy in that combo.
 
I've done winny by itself and I got the results I wanted at the time (a bit of quality mass but very nice and hard.)

There is/was some suggestion that by injecting you are somehow avoiding one pass through the liver so it is a little bit better on the liver than oral but I don't really understand this.

Using slin pins is great, no scarring you don't feel it etc, remember diabetics do this ED for their lives... I think that the quality of the suspension can affect clogging I heard of some proccess called whet-milling which I guess makes the crystalls the smallest and therefore flow well.
 
Winny 100mg/prop 100mg/fina 76mg EOD. Loved it. Was also doing CKD at the time. Got more ripped then I have ever been.
 
jubei said:
I would stack:
winny/npp/test
winny/tren/test
winny/eq/test

Winny/anavar is not a good idea. running 2 17aa's concurrently is never a good idea imho. Plus I don't think there would be much synergy in that combo.
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Why is anavar downplayed when compared to dbol if both are 17aa? And wouldn't injecting bypass your liver more then oral? What is npp?
 
i love winny with a passion, it's the only steriod that give me the look that i want. im about to do a winny only cycle in the near future. I hope to slim down from 205 to 195 solid.
 
im 5'8". i weigh 204 lbs. I am kinda big boned. I want to get lean and cut. I heard about winstrol, and I wanted to try it. If i do it with NO2 orally rather than inject myslef, will I get lean and cut rather than big and bulky?
 
monkey arms said:
Love winny hate the painful ED Injections.
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if you can afford it use the zambon winny, im on em right now, the pain is very minimal.
Bionic
 
I'm using the Zambon Winny atmo, 1ml EOD and i gues it kinda feels like youve been punched in the arm, not hard but enough to cause a little discomfort for a day or 2, painless going in though!

Question though, i've been on the Winny nearly 2 weeks now at 1ml EOD and was wondering when shit starts hardening up?
 
xxbignipperxx said:
Why is anavar downplayed when compared to dbol if both are 17aa? And wouldn't injecting bypass your liver more then oral? What is npp?
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Injecting definitely results in less liver issues per dosage, that's why people use it when they have a choice.
 
I'm about to start Winny 50 mg EoD injections. I'm pretty sure the protocol calls for IM, but that doesn't make a lot of sense... if it's EoD and water based, wouldn't sub-q work just fine?

Thanks,
 
xxbignipperxx said:
Why is anavar downplayed when compared to dbol if both are 17aa? And wouldn't injecting bypass your liver more then oral? What is npp?
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I hear a lot about winny(inj) & d-bol cycles... I've been arguing that potential long term mass gains are limited relative to winny/tren/test - scrap the d-bol cmpletely. Have I been correct and can someone explain the science in laymen's for me?
 
semi1979 said:
Is it true winstrol permantly destroys fat cells????
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i highly doubt this is true. but I did do winny alone once. got exactly wanted I had hoped for. strenght gains/hardness. and speed like crazy. I was running wild.
 
Makavelli said:
Same with all their products....very good.
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i have a question

i am a true noob.

i work out, but have never used steroids.

i have some fat, and i heard that winstrol makes it hard.
i wanna take it in tablet form, i was wondering if i can get any insight, tips, etc
 
My favorite stack is with Suspension,Wisntrol,Var, & halo..

Did this before and worked great.. Suspension,Winstrol,Tren and Anadrol..
 
winny passes through the liver im or oral GOD! winny goes good with anything, i ran it with deca at 50mg ed and ran it alone for 6 months when i was a young moron at 50mg ed. I'll never use it again as it gave me horrible joint pain, and tbol gives the same results just faster and better with no sides. still winny will go great with test, eq, deca, you name it.
 
I have had many bad experiences with it. I have had three abcesses removed and terrible joint pain. I have tried it with everything and feel that it is a hit or miss drug. Moreover that some have receptors that accept the drug while others get nothing but dry joints. I know that it has a certain die-hard following but feel that you can get better results out of a turnabol and anavar cycle. Throw in some primobolan and you will get some nice lean gains without joint pain or the potential for contamination as is associated with water based winstrol.
 
i couldn't agree more. my best friend has the best physique of anyone i know. he only takes winny and var. nothing else ever. he swears by winny and gets no joint pain. i loved the strength and hardness but my elbows ached
darwinmcduck said:
I have had many bad experiences with it. I have had three abcesses removed and terrible joint pain. I have tried it with everything and feel that it is a hit or miss drug. Moreover that some have receptors that accept the drug while others get nothing but dry joints. I know that it has a certain die-hard following but feel that you can get better results out of a turnabol and anavar cycle. Throw in some primobolan and you will get some nice lean gains without joint pain or the potential for contamination as is associated with water based winstrol.
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i had a quick question...with joint pains and winny, can that be canceled out by taking fish oil tablets??also are there any other side effects that go along with it
 
I did a winny Var cycle and loved it. Got me exactly what I wanted. Almost no sides, big strength boost and almost no weight gain. GREAT stuff. I agree with the joint pain though. That sucked. I took glucosamine with it. That helped. :coffee:
 
xxbignipperxx said:
What have you stacked it with?

I'm thinking test, anavar and winny?

EQ hasn't done much for me. I'm trying to go next cycle minimum bloat with not anti-e's.

What were your winny dosages? How were your gains? And has anyone seen significant fat loss using winny? I know this may be a myth, but I still hear this over and over. Also a friend of mine was running winny and was telling me he was getting really bad cramping? Sounds like it was from the winny and not being hydrated enough?
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I was taking fina 100mg EOD along with oral winny 40mg ED. I loved the results from that cycle. Did not take nay anti-e with the cycle. Had no sides from it. As far as the cramping, I did drink alot of water on this cycle, so I didn't have the cramps you are talking about.
 
So as a first cycle, would it be bad to use 50mgEOD IM only? I want to lose a good bit of fat, but i also want some good strength gains. Should I stack it with some Clen?
 
used winny orals at 75mgs ed and 50mgs of prop eod. Best cycle ever but my joints were sore so next time i'll lower the dosage to 50mgs.
 
Have only used Zambon, and will use it again,


Get joint pain, but the injections have always been pain free

Never tried oral winny or oral primo.
 
my recent cycle i came off of was
100 prop EOD
50-75 tren ace ED
50-100 proviron ED
clen
T3
winny 50-75ED.
sick cycle, next 1 will be same except doing primo at 800/wk instead of tren. also doing winny at 75-100ED. this will be in march. winny is sick if u are already alittle lean and finish up a cutting cycle w/ it. drink lots of water on it too. sick strength and really gives u a nice look if alittle lean already( with clean diet and cardio). just taking winny will not get u cut.
 
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