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Immortal Juicer

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The more I read posts on this board, the more I think that steroid users are well educated and dedicated to training. The way we know how to use anabolics, they should be legal. No question about it. The only thing is, I forget that I'm interacting with people intelligent enough to use a computer.

Listen to this fucking conversation I had with a friend about juice:

Dumbass: "Can you get me an 8 week cycle of roids?"
Me: "An 8 week cycle of what?"
DA: "I dont know."
Me: "What do you want?"
DA: "I want something to get me really big, but lean too....and it cant have any side effects....and it cant be a shot....and I dont want to lose everything when I come off....and it has to be less than $300.00."
Me: "Oh, you must be talking about Magicbolan. Sure, I've got 8 tabs right here for $300.00. Just take 1 a week and get ready to get huge!!...and ripped!!!"


Damn I hate dumb people that ruin it for everyone.
 
"Magicbolan"..... haha, I love it :)
 
I agree. Its sometimes ridiculous to talk with some people that learn about steroids through their friends or other users. Without the internet and these very informative message boards, I would probably be no better then them. :D
 
reminds me of the recent news story about the dumbass kid who died after injesting vast quanities of dnp. the kid's stupidity was never questioned; instead his parents and the police blamed and arrested his supplier, an elite brother in good standing with many of us.

never under-estimitate the stupidity of the general public.
 
I have to agree. how can these people do it to the selves. or see people do a nice dbol deca cycle and then lose all their gains becuase they did not use clomid, hcg or anything.
 
There should be a dumbass admendment added.

If through an act of your own supreme stupidity, you can't sue or take any other legal action.
 
karde said:
There should be a dumbass admendment added.

If through an act of your own supreme stupidity, you can't sue or take any other legal action.
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Either that or there could be a "class" or something that you could take that you would have to pass, and then they would give you some kind of certificate or badge or something.
 
here is another one...

Dumbass: "I just started a 16 week cycle of Sus and DBol."
Me: "Thats a long cycle."
DA: "Yeah, but you need to stay on for at least 16 weeks so you can change your DNA. Anything shorter, and after you get off you will just go back to how you were before."
Me: "Oh yeah, I forgot. Do you have any clomid?"
DA: "whats that?"
Me: "nothing. I'll see you later."

I swear to God someone actually said that to me!!!
 
If he is a good friend, then educate him! Knowledge is addictive!
If we had more knowledgeable in high places... maybe gear wouldn't be illegal.

magicbolan... that's some funny shit!

bass
 
It's pretty sad that people spend more time trying to buy a car,camera,etc. than they do on taking drugs that will alter their body.

Lewd
 
I know at least 4 guys who I used to be friends with, they all started juicing at the same time, they didnt know shit about as use, the info they got was here say, so they begin juicing, using way more juice than they needed, (all first time users) made good gains, but guess what, they didnt know about clomid or anything to turn their nuts back on!! so now they are right back where they began, WHAT A WASTE OF JUICE!!!
Dumbasses put out all off this effort injecting 3 times a week for nothing!!! surprised they dont all have tits, they knew of no anti-e's.
 
I disagree.



I think that ignorance is not the reason steroids are banned.

The banning of steroids is the reason for everyon'es ignorance.



...print that up and make bumperstickers. If you don't understand it, think about it longer.:D
 
a friend of mine approached me about getting on juice - said he was going to do sus and deca
then he told me that he competes in drug-tested martial arts on a regular basis - when I told him about the clearance time of nandrolone, he just about shit himself!

I just wish more people would do their homework before juicing

oh yeah, and I HATE people who want to go on juice but tell me "I can't inject - I hate needles - can't you just do orals?"
nothing pisses me off more!!
 
....change my DNA?

macho21 said:
Does anybody know if 35 days of magicbolan stacked with clambutteroil is enough to change my DNA?
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this must be the cycle amy1010 was on, since he changed to the other side of the pasture.
 
i dont think roids should be legal
there are to many uneducated assholes out there who want a easy way out,i lipped off a friend last nite for saying i will get tits and have small balls,im like no there are preventions of that but he said of no thats not true then i tore into him for his holier then thou bible thumper bullshit and that he best shut his mouth before i shut him up,he did,mainly cuz he is smaller and scared

i hate morons who dont take time to research before tearing people up for there choice,he even tried to say my muscle wasnt real,i replied what am i wearing a fucking muscle suit then


next time ill show him my small balls lol and ask how small they look,prick

sorry just venting
 
i dont think roids should be legal there are to many uneducated assholes out there who want a easy way out,
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This is faulty thinking.

Let me explain. Everything that is legal in life is bound to be fucked up by idiotic people who don't read instructions, and who don't do their research. Look at ephedra, too many people ignored the labels, so now its illegal because the government thinks we're a bunch of retards who cant read a label. Well I for one am not a retard who will ignore a label, so why should it be illegal for me?

Its the government trying to protect you from yourself. Laws are even imposed because you are too stupid to look out for your own safety. Look at helmet laws. If I want to be a dumbass and drive like an asshole without a helmet and kill myself, then let me - survival of the common sensed people.

The government will never protect all the idiots in the world from themselves, only more education will protect them.

Everything in the world shouldn't be banned so that well-educated people can not use things. Enough people fall off of ladders, do we ban ladders because idiots aren't careful? Cars get in accidents all the time, in fact its the leading cause of death, should we ban cars? THINK.

I mean fuck, just because some idiots are going to use things the wrong way doesn't mean my right to using this product should be REVOKED! Where is the line drawn to what can stay legal and what can't? Someone will undoubtedly find a wrong use for everything in life.

<end of rant>
 
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the_Pikey said:

This is faulty thinking.

Let me explain. Everything that is legal in life is bound to be fucked up by idiotic people who don't read instructions, and who don't do their research. Look at ephedra, too many people ignored the labels, so now its illegal because the government thinks we're a bunch of retards who cant read a label. Well I for one am not a retard who will ignore a label, so why should it be illegal for me?

Its the government trying to protect you from yourself. Laws are even imposed because you are too stupid to look out for your own safety. Look at helmet laws. If I want to be a dumbass and drive like an asshole without a helmet and kill myself, then let me - survival of the common sensed people.

The government will never protect all the idiots in the world from themselves, only more education will protect them.

Everything in the world shouldn't be banned so that well-educated people can not use things. Enough people fall off of ladders, do we ban ladders because idiots aren't careful? Cars get in accidents all the time, in fact its the leading cause of death, should we ban cars? THINK.

I mean fuck, just because some idiots are going to use things the wrong way doesn't mean my right to using this product should be REVOKED! Where is the line drawn to what can stay legal and what can't? Someone will undoubtedly find a wrong use for everything in life.

<end of rant>
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damn you make a amazing point,i never looked at it that way before,but it would be hard to regulate who could use and who couldnt right

but i do agree man,i dont think our rights should be taken away because of idiots,cigarettes and booze are mroe dangerous in my opinon then juice yet they are legal?? go figure
 
the_Pikey said:

This is faulty thinking.

Let me explain. Everything that is legal in life is bound to be fucked up by idiotic people who don't read instructions, and who don't do their research. Look at ephedra, too many people ignored the labels, so now its illegal because the government thinks we're a bunch of retards who cant read a label. Well I for one am not a retard who will ignore a label, so why should it be illegal for me?

Its the government trying to protect you from yourself. Laws are even imposed because you are too stupid to look out for your own safety. Look at helmet laws. If I want to be a dumbass and drive like an asshole without a helmet and kill myself, then let me - survival of the common sensed people.

The government will never protect all the idiots in the world from themselves, only more education will protect them.

Everything in the world shouldn't be banned so that well-educated people can not use things. Enough people fall off of ladders, do we ban ladders because idiots aren't careful? Cars get in accidents all the time, in fact its the leading cause of death, should we ban cars? THINK.

I mean fuck, just because some idiots are going to use things the wrong way doesn't mean my right to using this product should be REVOKED! Where is the line drawn to what can stay legal and what can't? Someone will undoubtedly find a wrong use for everything in life.

<end of rant>
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I like that! Very logical. Too bad our government would never accept that argument. Good karma to you bro!
 
I don't think anabolics should ever be over-the-counter drugs, for sure. I don't think anabolics should be Controlled Substances either. But until the doctors and the public are educated on the practical use of anabolics, then things should stay the way they are. The last comment I'll make refers to the lack of intelligence of the professional bodybuilder....until they can raise their level of intelligence, then how can we except the public to do the same? I would assume that guys like Coleman are told what to do from eating to exercise to drug use to shitting. I would also think that he has a doctor "in his corner," making those decisions. So, forums such as elitefitness will dominate the scene. Even many personal trainers are clueless regarding proper diet, exercise, and anabolics.
 
Re: here is another one...

Immortal Juicer said:
Dumbass: "I just started a 16 week cycle of Sus and DBol."
Me: "Thats a long cycle."
DA: "Yeah, but you need to stay on for at least 16 weeks so you can change your DNA. Anything shorter, and after you get off you will just go back to how you were before."
Me: "Oh yeah, I forgot. Do you have any clomid?"
DA: "whats that?"
Me: "nothing. I'll see you later."

I swear to God someone actually said that to me!!!
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I've had the same conversation. It's pathetic, but very rampant.

WRJ
 
the_Pikey said:
I disagree.



I think that ignorance is not the reason steroids are banned.

The banning of steroids is the reason for everyon'es ignorance.



...print that up and make bumperstickers. If you don't understand it, think about it longer.:D
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Got it right away. Very Very well said Pikey.
 
Everyone here is making good points... so I have come to the conclusion that we should sell only majicbolan, so no one gets hurt and evryone can alter their DNA.... My anger and hatred for the public grows every day.

"Stupidity is never-ending, while intelligence has its limits"
 
I to have had the same conversation. It usually starts with some idiot asking me how much I bench. Their like how much do you bench bro? I tell them about 550 for reps and they ask me for some magicbolan. I always tell them that with 10 weeks of this magicbolan and some celltech creatine they can add 150 pounds to there bench and 15-25pounds of muscle that they will never loose. In all seriousness I am sure you guys are tired of answering the same questions all time. I try and refer people to looking at the boards and trying to learn something but they never do. They are all intrested in doing steriods or cycles and want to know how much it costs to get big! WHUT THE FUCK IS THAT? How dumb can people really be. I havent been jucing for a real long time but I would consider myself to be fairly knowledgeable and I attribute a-lot of that to these boards. When I found out about them i was excited. I would know be able to learn about AS and how to use them properly. Most people just want to get big, don't want any sides and think $300 will get them a full cycle and they will get big and never loose it. What a bunch of idiots! It's not lack of knowlege it's lack of want to learn. My friend would rather do all orals even though he knows it will destroy his liver because he is afraid of shots. I repeatedly tell him that mixing orals is bad but he refuses to listen. Guess he is going to have to learn the hard way. To all my bros keep the knowledge coming, everyone else can spend $300 dollars to get huge and never loose it. I just orered $10000 dollars worth of magicbolan from my source. Might as well make some side money at the gym.LOL...
 
DrJMW said:
I don't think anabolics should ever be over-the-counter drugs, for sure. I don't think anabolics should be Controlled Substances either. But until the doctors and the public are educated on the practical use of anabolics, then things should stay the way they are. The last comment I'll make refers to the lack of intelligence of the professional bodybuilder....until they can raise their level of intelligence, then how can we except the public to do the same? I would assume that guys like Coleman are told what to do from eating to exercise to drug use to shitting. I would also think that he has a doctor "in his corner," making those decisions. So, forums such as elitefitness will dominate the scene. Even many personal trainers are clueless regarding proper diet, exercise, and anabolics.
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Right on most accounts here, but I think that most pro bodybuilders are fairly intelligent about anabolics, except when it comes to dosages. And that is under investigation.....still.
 
it can be fun though...

It can be fun to fuck with people. I did this to a friend once, the guy knew I juiced, but thought I knew as much as his other friends about it, shit:

Newbiefriend: "I'm halfway through a deca/dbol cycle and I've gained 15 lbs!"
Me: "Damn, thats good. The deca is probably just starting to kick in since the deconate ester is so long acting. You probably gained the weight since the dbol is such a strong, fast acting androgen."
NF: "Oh, you know about this stuff?"
Me: "yeah, I've read a couple of books and done a few cycles."
NF: "So is Deca and Dbol a good one?"
Me: "Hell yeah it is! fucking great. The only thing that sucks is that your dick shrinks and you cant have sex for a while."
NF: "What!!!???"
Me: "You never heard that?"
NF: "shit I have heard that. I thought it was bullshit. Are you serious?"
Me: "yeah, your dick shrinks a little and you cant have sex. but only for about two months, depending on how long you were on. Its not too bad."
NF: "uh, yeah i guess not."

Then I just totally changed the subject and it was obvious for the next three hours the dude was constantly thinking about how his dick was going to shrink. I'd try to talk about stuff and he could barely get out a sentence his brain was so preoccupied. Finally I told him I was fucking with him. I didnt want to go to hell. Talk about relieved, he was pissed as hell but happy at the same time. He said it was more of a relief than when his girl told him she wasnt pregnant.
 
Re: here is another one...

Immortal Juicer said:
Dumbass: "I just started a 16 week cycle of Sus and DBol."
Me: "Thats a long cycle."
DA: "Yeah, but you need to stay on for at least 16 weeks so you can change your DNA. Anything shorter, and after you get off you will just go back to how you were before."
Me: "Oh yeah, I forgot. Do you have any clomid?"
DA: "whats that?"
Me: "nothing. I'll see you later."

I swear to God someone actually said that to me!!!
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And you can bet Dumbass is giving other people advice.
 
rnch said:
reminds me of the recent news story about the dumbass kid who died after injesting vast quanities of dnp. the kid's stupidity was never questioned; instead his parents and the police blamed and arrested his supplier, an elite brother in good standing with many of us.

never under-estimitate the stupidity of the general public.
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So thats what happened? I have been wondering...


The only thing that sucks is that your dick shrinks and you cant have sex for a while."

Thats all I here from these morons. "Steriods make your dick shrink"

cracks me up everytime. I just say "yep".


##spiderbaby##
 
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh...............

That reminds me of when I first got into the game.
I remember a similiar type of conversation, and I was the
ignorant one!

I sometimes catch myself answering questions that some newbies have in the gym and the next thing I know I have been talking for too long and they just look at me in Awww and ask how do I know so much!!!

It feels good to know what I do now!!
 
That sound typical


This summer a friend of a friend came training with us, and well during training he turned to me and says " Dude suggest me some gears to get me huge in a short time"
the guy was just in a gym since 5 fucking minutes. :mad:

people are alway looking for a n easy way, I just hate it, sound like our society.




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:vanp:
 
Hi all just joined the board and had something to say about this topic. I agree with you all I'm sick and tired of talking to anyone about juice other than bros on these boards. The worst is when people say your dicks going to shrink off roids are you don't need to use anti's esreogens for your first cycle. Also people who have now idea what there doing and pay triple the amout for roids than they should and don't even now what there doing. Thank God all ya'll are around or I would go nuts hearing stupid ass coments.
 
DrJMW said:
I don't think anabolics should ever be over-the-counter drugs, for sure. I don't think anabolics should be Controlled Substances either. But until the doctors and the public are educated on the practical use of anabolics, then things should stay the way they are.

Howzabout licensed practitioners in gyms & health clubs. They would be authorized to prescribe & order labs. Cross between a pharmacist & a Doc
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Immortal Juicer said:
The more I read posts on this board, the more I think that steroid users are well educated and dedicated to training. The way we know how to use anabolics, they should be legal. No question about it. The only thing is, I forget that I'm interacting with people intelligent enough to use a computer.

Listen to this fucking conversation I had with a friend about juice:

Dumbass: "Can you get me an 8 week cycle of roids?"
Me: "An 8 week cycle of what?"
DA: "I dont know."
Me: "What do you want?"
DA: "I want something to get me really big, but lean too....and it cant have any side effects....and it cant be a shot....and I dont want to lose everything when I come off....and it has to be less than $300.00."
Me: "Oh, you must be talking about Magicbolan. Sure, I've got 8 tabs right here for $300.00. Just take 1 a week and get ready to get huge!!...and ripped!!!"


Damn I hate dumb people that ruin it for everyone.
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I'm glad they're illegal. Could you imagine what a scene in America would look like if they weren't? Think of how preoccupied Americans, including myself, are with their physical image. Just look at "reality" t.v.
 
If juice was legal there would probably be less morons wanting to try it
and less fake
 
Immortal Juicer said:
The more I read posts on this board, the more I think that steroid users are well educated and dedicated to training. The way we know how to use anabolics, they should be legal. No question about it. The only thing is, I forget that I'm interacting with people intelligent enough to use a computer.

Listen to this fucking conversation I had with a friend about juice:

Dumbass: "Can you get me an 8 week cycle of roids?"
Me: "An 8 week cycle of what?"
DA: "I dont know."
Me: "What do you want?"
DA: "I want something to get me really big, but lean too....and it cant have any side effects....and it cant be a shot....and I dont want to lose everything when I come off....and it has to be less than $300.00."
Me: "Oh, you must be talking about Magicbolan. Sure, I've got 8 tabs right here for $300.00. Just take 1 a week and get ready to get huge!!...and ripped!!!"


Damn I hate dumb people that ruin it for everyone.
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Though you are enjoying your self-righteous indignation and anger, this is not why steroids are illegal

sorry

Oddly this post reminds me of politicians seeking publicity and approval by attacking something they know most will get upset about and get behind them on (such as drugs)
 
actually heart disease is the number 1 killer.. maybe we should ban hearts? :rolleyes:
 
:mix: :mix: I made the mistake of getting the gym to late in the evening last sat(9:30pm 24HR FIT)it was full of teens all doing their max bench(about 185lbs seems to be average)Sure enough one by one they ask.What do you take?How much does a 8week cycle cost?How much stonger will I get?At first I try'ed to give good advise such as get your diet good first,make sure you get enough sleep,drink plenty of water.But these kids did'nt want to hear that!They wanted a magic drug that they could take once a day and look like Arnold next week.So I told them that all the pros today dont even take AAS,I told them to go buy Celltech and they'd gain 20lbs a week easy LOL.Funny thing is only one of them was smart enough to know I was joking LOL.
 
rnch said:
reminds me of the recent news story about the dumbass kid who died after injesting vast quanities of dnp. the kid's stupidity was never questioned; instead his parents and the police blamed and arrested his supplier, an elite brother in good standing with many of us.

never under-estimitate the stupidity of the general public.
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never! :artist:
 
I actually have a breath of fresh air story for ya! I have a freind who is a really hard gainer, been trying for ages to put on weight, eatin loads etc. Anyway, he know's what I do so one day we had this conversation:

Kris: So if I wanted to start a course what should I do?
me: Well what do you want to acheive?
Kris: I want to put on some weight but with some decent muscle too?
me: Ok, as you've never done it before you could try 8 weeks of Sus @ 1 shot a week, that should give you some decent gains.
Kris: Oh god I can't do injections, i'm terrified of needles!
me: So what were you thinking?
Kris: Can I not just do tablets? Like dianabol or something?
me: Well you could, but most of the weight you gain you will lose again as its mostly water retention with D-Bol, also over 8 weeks you will be putting terrible strain on your liver, this is bad.
Kris: Ok, I guess I can cope with 1 injection a week then. How much will I gain?
me: If everything is in check, diet, training, rest etc you could put on around 12lb, but as you are a really hard gainer it could be less.
Kris: Ok cool, is there anything else I should know before I start?
me: I'll get you some Tamoxifen in case your sensitive to Gyno, and you'll need it at the end anyway to make sure your natural test levels come back quickly.
Kris: Oh yeah Test makes your balls shrink doesn't it?
me: Only cos they're not producing natural test while your on
Kris: So thats what the Tamoxifen's for then yeah? Will I lose it all after the 8 weeks then?
me: If you keep eating right, training hard, and do your PCT, post cycle therapy, you should keep most of what you gained, you may lose a bit of weight from water but the muscle should stay.
Kris: Ok so 1 shot a week of Sus, train/eat/sleep, and Tamoxy in case I get sore nipples and for at the end to bring my ball back. Sounds good.

I then went on to tell him all about the different types of gear and all the different effects they have etc etc. Everything I told him was knowledge gained from these boards. At the end he said:

Kris: Thanks for telling me all that, this guy said I should do 10 Dianabol a day for six weeks and also 2 shots of Deca and 2 shots of Sus for 12 weeks! I'm glad I spoke to you first!

This was great cos the guy sat and listened to me for about an hour, then regurgitated what he'd learnt and thanked me! One more educated newbie out there!
 
i had one kid ask me if he could mix his winny with parmalat and inject....i just laughed and walked away...."someone told him you had to take with milk"....lmao
 
you should've tell him about dicktestosteron, or nutt-y-bol, or masterdick-on, or trembo-shit, or dicktestosterone cyapionashitty, ohh and tell him to do pct with orange juice 6 times a day mixed with oats and eggwhites for 6 months to fully recover.!!!!!!!!!!!! oooh and also tell him to don't forget to take estrogen pills 500mg 2 times a day to get big and hard chest.(gyno).!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahhaha!
 
I hate when this happens and you have to be a part of it, especially a friend of yours. For instance:

Friend: Yo im on roids now
Me: Cool what kind, whats your cycle look like?
Friend: Im not sure, the guy said its sustanon, but its this big vial with a ripped off label. But its sustanon.
Me: Huh? How much a week are you taking?
Friend: 3cc's everytime before I lift.
Me: What?!
Friend: Yeah just put 3cc's in my quad 45 min before i lift.
Me: Dude....

Then I explained to him everything that he was doing wrong. I couldnt believe what he was telling me. It made me feel better to know he knew the right way to do it afterwards.
 
Theres the occasions where ignorance is bliss... like when a friend of a friend wants to buy some juice and says..
" do you know where I can get some test?
" Uh...Yeah.."
" I have 300 dollars.."
" Hmmmmm! I think I can help you" ...help me :D
 
I really think this thread is stupid since its whole premise is wrong. Steroids were not made illegal because of a couple doofs not properly running PCT
 
can i get some of that "magicbolan" but i only got like 200 bucks so what do ya think? HAHAH thats the best post ive read all morning it made me laugh during class thanks for that!
 
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