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Thinking of doing this cycle..

shimmy825

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Alright,

So I'm thinking of doing this as my second cycle. My first one was about 3 years ago, and it was solely Test Enanthate for 10 weeks (Don't really remember the dosage) and clomid for PCT.

Now I'm thinking about doing something a little more substantial, but I want all the insight I can get.

Right now I am 6'0'', 215 lbs, and my body fat is probably around 18-20%. All I want is a little more bulk, but to really cut down. Starting in a week and a half, I am moving into Manhattan, where I will be biking close to 70 miles a week (biking to work and back, two 30 minute sessions a day) plus going to be double-sessioning it at the gym with the iron.

I'm thinking about running Test Enanthate again (had great gains that I kept, just retained a lot of water) for 15 weeks, with 8-10 weeks of Tren (Acetate probably). However, I'm not too famillar with what the dosage should be so I'm here looking for some advice. I am considering starting the winnie for a few weeks after the Tren, but I'm not sure since I'm an athlete. (rugby)

For PCT I'll be running Nolvadex during the cycle and Clomid for PCT.

Any thoughts?
 
hey bro welcome to EF...I presonally would use test prop instead of test E if you didnt like the bloat. Another thing thats would be a great cycle for you, test prop, tren, and winny.
But i would drop some more body fat before you start
 
Yeah, the BF dropping is what I plan on. I've never eally had a problem dropping weight, I've just got some that I put on after recently graduating college. I figure when I move into my new apartment I'll finally have a forman, so I can grill all that lean chicken and veggies, and with all tha tbiking, I'll probably drop a substantial amount of BF in the first few weeks. What I want to know is do you think it's adviseable to perhaps use the BF I have to my advantage, and put on some muscle while I have the BF for energy? Or am I better off doing it the other way around?

Thanks for the quick reply, BTW.
 
use the BF I have to my advantage, and put on some muscle while I have the BF for energy? Thanks for the quick reply, BTW.

Do that!! Use that fat u have for an energy source for now. What I would do is not eat before you're bike ride to work. Whats thats going to do is use your fat as an energy source, thus because you have nothing in you system except for....FAT lol, and bring your breakfast to work and eat it there, and try to eat low carbs through out the day and no carbs for your last 2 meals
 
Do that!! Use that fat u have for an energy source for now. What I would do is not eat before you're bike ride to work. Whats thats going to do is use your fat as an energy source, thus because you have nothing in you system except for....FAT lol, and bring your breakfast to work and eat it there, and try to eat low carbs through out the day and no carbs for your last 2 meals

Now, what I'm thinking of doing is lifting in the morning, biking to work, working, biking home (7 miles each way, not too bad) and then lifting again. Doing double sessions. With that said, would it be adviseable to not eat before lifting AND riding my bike? How would you go about the morning session?
 
Now, what I'm thinking of doing is lifting in the morning, biking to work, working, biking home (7 miles each way, not too bad) and then lifting again. Doing double sessions. With that said, would it be adviseable to not eat before lifting AND riding my bike? How would you go about the morning session?

what i would do is not work out in the morning, i would exstend your biking by atleast 10-15 more minutes and that will be you're cardio for the day
as far as eating before you workout is a must. Make sure you eat something with a protien source and get a lil carb in there too
 
if you dont have a good workout or cardio routine down i would stay away from steroids for a bit
 
I'd have to agree with HAYEZ.

However if you are going to do something. As a second cyle i think all you will need is Test/Winny. If you really want to use Tren, then go with 75mg of Ace ED with 100mg of Prop.
 
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