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OMEGA

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1)
No taking Anti-E's like pez candy anymore.
It is a most postive and recent advent that Anti E's are used more sparingly now , it s a good trend. USE them but in moderation. (AR and Nelson)

2)
H C G use - human chorionic gonadotropin - -
Debate between those that use in while on cycle and those that use it during P C T - post cycle therapy - ( Thanks PP). The fact that H C G - human chorionic gonadotropin has been resurrected as a topic is a great thing since it can help so much. The argument still goes on about how to run it but its a good argument to have.

3)
Cabaser being used with Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Dura bolin - and trenbolone now even with minimal amounts. Before it was a maybe now its more common.

4)
Low dose Winnie On trenbolone and Deca runs still rather uncommon but very interesting and useful.
WHY?:

Winnie will help shift T and E Ratios a bit much like Proviron Added to a Test Base
Winnie Like Provirion seems to Free up more test which of course shifts T to E ratios thus limiting E expression. BUT ALSO winnie seem to mediate Progesterone sides as well, the jury is still out as to exactly how this is done.

5)
Very good spirit of helpfulness and lots of "good bros" :)
The Community here is so very special and we are all lucky.
 
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And you're one of those good bros.

Good thread!
 
bca21 said:
run me threw on why to run Winstrol - stanozolol with tr3n or d3ca? Its fading in my memory...
winny blocks the progesterone receptors that deca and tren both occupy, so by blocking the receptors, you are minimizing, if not taking away the progestagenic side effects
 
There is also the Winnie sex hormone binding globulin connection which thus shifts T to E ratios even further which helps alot :)
 
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Thanks for the props bro. I agree -- some good trends.

Here are few more where I see, if not a trend, a leaning toward. And I'd like to see even more of it.

More open discussion on the different effects of various substances among different individuals.

More practical approaches to combining. (Less "everything under the sun"stacks).

More concern with health.

More responsibility when dealing with newbies, including advocating more education, conservative first cycles and exploring the possibilities of good supps and better training protocol before relying on gear.

More concern with the quality of UG lab gear.

More knowledge and use of supplements that benefit and augment the effectiveness of cycles and PCT.

More repect when debating hot topics. It unfortunately still gets nasty now and then but in general it's MUCH better than it used to be and that's led to some really good debates.

More "outside the box" thinking. If someone has an idea or a theory, even if it seems a little wacky, let it be known. You never know what might come of it.

More open mindedness.

More fun. Let's not forget, this is a hobby. Nobody's curing cancer here. If we keep it light and in the right spirit, everyone can share some thoughts, have a few laughs and walk away with a little more knowledge. That's a pretty good deal.
 
Yep Definitely a great board and a lot of awesome people here and i plan on being around here for good, not another site like it.
 
OMEGA said:
1)
No taking Anti-E's like pez candy anymore.
It is a most postive and recent advent that Anti E's are used more sparingly now , it s a good trend. USE them but in moderation. (AR and Nelson)

2)
H C G use - human chorionic gonadotropin - -
Debate between those that use in while on cycle and those that use it during P C T - post cycle therapy - ( Thanks PP). The fact that H C G - human chorionic gonadotropin has been resurrected as a topic is a great thing since it can help so much. The argument still goes on about how to run it but its a good argument to have.

3)
Cabaser being used with Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Dura bolin - and trenbolone now even with minimal amounts. Before it was a maybe now its more common.

4)
Low dose Winnie On trenbolone and Deca runs still rather uncommon but very interesting and useful.

5)
Very good spirit of helpfulness and lots of "good bros" :)
The Community here is so very special and we are all lucky.
thank thanks bro :worried:
 
OMEGA said:
1)
No taking Anti-E's like pez candy anymore.
It is a most postive and recent advent that Anti E's are used more sparingly now , it s a good trend. USE them but in moderation. (AR and Nelson)

2)
H C G use - human chorionic gonadotropin - -
Debate between those that use in while on cycle and those that use it during P C T - post cycle therapy - ( Thanks PP). The fact that H C G - human chorionic gonadotropin has been resurrected as a topic is a great thing since it can help so much. The argument still goes on about how to run it but its a good argument to have.

3)
Cabaser being used with Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Dura bolin - and trenbolone now even with minimal amounts. Before it was a maybe now its more common.

4)
Low dose Winnie On trenbolone and Deca runs still rather uncommon but very interesting and useful.

5)
Very good spirit of helpfulness and lots of "good bros" :)
The Community here is so very special and we are all lucky.

could have put my name on that one bro...lol what about me :worried: memememmememmemememme lol just kidding.
 
Im gettin a bonner reading all these sweet posts
 
Education is KEY!!! I get so tired of 18 yr old kids injecting drugs they can't even pronounce just because "their friend" said this is how to do it. Kind of sad actually...BUT, science has come A VERY LONG WAY...15yrs ago everyone had bitch tits because nobody knew what estrogen conversion was hahahaha
Debates are key also..........
 
I'm not sure I have ever heard the Winnie- tr3n correlation put so plainly...or many of the other comments for that matter. makes me want to add some winnie! the others i have already adopted.
 
mobro said:
I'm not sure I have ever heard the Winnie- tr3n correlation put so plainly...or many of the other comments for that matter. makes me want to add some winnie! the others i have already adopted.


Winnie will help shift T and E Ratios a bit much like Proviron Added to a Test Base

Winnie Like Provirion seems to Free up more test which of course shifts T to E ratios thus limiting E expression. BUT ALSO winnie seem to mediate Progesterone sides as well, the jury is still out as to exactly how this is done.
 
OMEGA said:
Winnie will help shift T and E Ratios a bit much like Proviron Added to a Test Base

Winnie Like Provirion seems to Free up more test which of course shifts T to E ratios thus limiting E expression. BUT ALSO winnie seem to mediate Progesterone sides as well, the jury is still out as to exactly how this is done.
which would explain some of the "cut" affect of winnie......

cool. i think i might add it next time at least. don't want to try everything at once.
 
mobro said:
which would explain some of the "cut" affect of winnie......

cool. i think i might add it next time at least. don't want to try everything at once.


Absolutely correct

dont forget to try to keep it to 6 weeks and also take a Liver Supp
 
OMEGA said:
Absolutely correct

dont forget to try to keep it to 6 weeks and also take a Liver Supp
cool, thanks man. wont be a problem keeping it to 6 weeks, 8 my limit. winnie with some test-p owuld be good I guess?

suggested liver supp. being something containing milk thistle?
 
For the Liver:

Glutamine Peptides( G-covery) and Liver 52

Also increase H20 a bit.

As far as Test P better try a sample first to see if your allergic to it.
 
OMEGA said:
For the Liver:

Glutamine Peptides( G-covery) and Liver 52

Also increase H20 a bit.

As far as Test P better try a sample first to see if your allergic to it.
Great advice man, thanks(as always). i have never done P alone but i have used Sust and didnt have any problems other than it seemed hard to keep my levels consistant. can't varify that but that is what it felt like. felt better on 250 eod than anything else, though that is a little higher than i like to go. for a 8 weeker, can you suggest something to run with winnie if not P?
 
the AMP is working out really good bro. i only take 5 caps 15 minutes after eating a banana and 1-1.5 hrs after a pre workout shake. i can be completely drained and giving up on working out, 20-30 minutes later....i'm headed to the gym. 7 is just too much for me, but 5 is magic.

this is no sales pitch. if it didnt work i would be posting that too. i've tried a lot but so far this is the best for me.

gives me confidence to give the G-covery a shot too.
 
winny also lowers progesterone caused by tren or deca right?
OMEGA said:
1)
No taking Anti-E's like pez candy anymore.
It is a most postive and recent advent that Anti E's are used more sparingly now , it s a good trend. USE them but in moderation. (AR and Nelson)

2)
H C G use - human chorionic gonadotropin - -
Debate between those that use in while on cycle and those that use it during P C T - post cycle therapy - ( Thanks PP). The fact that H C G - human chorionic gonadotropin has been resurrected as a topic is a great thing since it can help so much. The argument still goes on about how to run it but its a good argument to have.

3)
Cabaser being used with Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Dura bolin - and trenbolone now even with minimal amounts. Before it was a maybe now its more common.

4)
Low dose Winnie On trenbolone and Deca runs still rather uncommon but very interesting and useful.
WHY?:

Winnie will help shift T and E Ratios a bit much like Proviron Added to a Test Base
Winnie Like Provirion seems to Free up more test which of course shifts T to E ratios thus limiting E expression. BUT ALSO winnie seem to mediate Progesterone sides as well, the jury is still out as to exactly how this is done.

5)
Very good spirit of helpfulness and lots of "good bros" :)
The Community here is so very special and we are all lucky.
 
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