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Ok guys. I just received my bottle by mail.
Let's do this right.

I want to start today but hoping you could help me out.

Situation:

Diet - moderate / good
cycle - test e 300mgs ew
supplements - whey, creatine, arginine, multi, fish oil, glucusamine
training - will go into details on my log

Questions:

1- I'm going to take 25 mgs twice daily. Should I take 25 mgs 45 mins before gym and 25 mgs about 45 mins after gym??

2- I tried tasting literally a drop and I almost threw up. Suggestions? what to mix it with?? doesnt really mix with water or water based substances....how do you cope with the taste?

3- do you just put it under the tongue? down your throat...how do you take your dosages?

Appreciate the help!!
 
Hey Traz, welcome back brotha! How's the MMA going?

~EZ
 
the_alcatraz said:
Ok guys. I just received my bottle by mail.
Let's do this right.

I want to start today but hoping you could help me out.

Situation:

Diet - moderate / good
cycle - test e 300mgs ew
supplements - whey, creatine, arginine, multi, fish oil, glucusamine
training - will go into details on my log

Questions:

1- I'm going to take 25 mgs twice daily. Should I take 25 mgs 45 mins before gym and 25 mgs about 45 mins after gym??

2- I tried tasting literally a drop and I almost threw up. Suggestions? what to mix it with?? doesnt really mix with water or water based substances....how do you cope with the taste?

3- do you just put it under the tongue? down your throat...how do you take your dosages?

Appreciate the help!!
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dosage doesn't matter,i have tried it both ways and perfer 50 all at once, doesn't matter when as the effects are very gradual, after swallowing grab a chunk of ice to put in your mouth to delute the taste.
Do not try to mix it with anything ,this stuff has the capacity to delute itself over a large volume of liquid.
Have fun!
 
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I trow it in the back of the throat and swallow, then suck water and then eat something to drag the nasty ass tast down the back of the throat.

Good luck. It is pretty amazing how well it is working for 6 days now!
 
just took 25 using the thingie in the bottle....it actually looks like a really small amount...so im assuming this bottle will be used for like 60 days if you use 50 a day?

also i almost threw up...sucked ice right away though...
 
For dosing cut the needle off a slin pin and use that for dosing. Put it in the back of your throat and swallow. After a while you actually start to like the taste. I took it all at once. Have fun. Your gonna love it.
 
the_alcatraz said:
Ok guys. I just received my bottle by mail.
Let's do this right.

I want to start today but hoping you could help me out.

Situation:

Diet - moderate / good
cycle - test e 300mgs ew
supplements - whey, creatine, arginine, multi, fish oil, glucusamine
training - will go into details on my log

Questions:

1- I'm going to take 25 mgs twice daily. Should I take 25 mgs 45 mins before gym and 25 mgs about 45 mins after gym??

2- I tried tasting literally a drop and I almost threw up. Suggestions? what to mix it with?? doesnt really mix with water or water based substances....how do you cope with the taste?

3- do you just put it under the tongue? down your throat...how do you take your dosages?

Appreciate the help!!
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1) I personally don't get that big of a hit from 50mg/day, but I think 100mg/day is too much. Shoot for 75 mg/day. I used to split doses, but couldn't tell the difference between that and a single dose.

2) You get over the taste in a week or so. It's no big deal afte ra short time.

3) Just swallow it.
 
I guess everyone is different. I know Radar has tried it both ways and seen no difference, but for me there seems to be some difference. This is the second run on SARMS, I'm tryin "active recovery" on sarms right now, coming off a 12 week run of 500mg test e (and other stuff) - and BOY do I feel great. I do 25mg upon waking the morning (I workout at lunch), and 25mg about 3 hours before the gym in the afternoon (about 2pm - I workout after work as well). If I take it too close to the gym, I don't have near the performance in the gym. It seems to take a while to get "into" the system. When I feel it, it's amazing - it's like my workout "builds up". Usually the first exercise feels normal, and I wonder if I'll really be knocking it out of the park. But then set after set I just get stronger and stronger, where I would normally be getting weaker and weaker. Until the end of the workout, I have to just stop myself because I want to keep going.

When I tried all at once dosing, I noticed the recomp effects the same, but I didn't notice the crazy workouts I have in the afternoon now. However, I'd almost want to try 50mg 3 hours before my afternoon workout if I didn't also workout during lunch. The split dosing works for me.
 
Day I today. Only on 25 mgs before workout. I dont think it even really "started working" I'm pretty sure it'll take a couple of more days before I "feel" anything

I'm going to take my 2nd dose of 25 mgs now...fuckihatethenastytaste

Not too sure how i'm going to get used to it haha
 
the_alcatraz said:
1- I'm going to take 25 mgs twice daily. Should I take 25 mgs 45 mins before gym and 25 mgs about 45 mins after gym??

2- I tried tasting literally a drop and I almost threw up. Suggestions? what to mix it with?? doesnt really mix with water or water based substances....how do you cope with the taste?

3- do you just put it under the tongue? down your throat...how do you take your dosages?

Appreciate the help!!
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1. 25mg twice daily seems good and if you can use it 5 days on 2 days off, I read some about someone who used it this way to manage vision sides.

2. Try chasing it down with grapefruit juice or simply add it to 4 ounces of grapefruit juice and you won't taste the S4.

3. no need for that, S4 is 91% orally bio-available

I also heard of someone experimenting using the powder with a transdermal carrier to target specific muscles. His theory is based on the fact that if applied via tds to a specific muscle it should affect the androgen receptors in that specific area first. I will post up if this experiment went right or not.

C
 
I tried 5on/2off and the vision sides were the same, so I run 7days. The vision sides don't go away for 4-5 days, so not sure 2 days off is enough to manage sides.
 
Traz, I started a thread in the Supplements section about the possibility of mixing SARMs as a topical application similar to how people are using Clen and Eviscerate. I'm looking for the molecular weight of SARMs and dependent on that, it MAY be possible to use SARMs topically, its still open to debate.

Just wanted to throw that out there, might be able to get around the taste. Verdict will hopefully be forthcoming. I too would like to try SARMs but not if the taste is this bad. Its already experimental enough, might just experiment with it as a topical.

On PP's site here: Topical Solution - Make your own transdermal formulais the "flavorless" topical solution to make your own. Works with compounds having a molecular weight of 500 or less, optimal MW is 300 or less and Needto believes the MW of SARMs is ~293 (waiting on confirmation) which would be perfect.

Lets cross our fingers :evil:
 
Captain FT said:
Traz, I started a thread in the Supplements section about the possibility of mixing SARMs as a topical application similar to how people are using Clen and Eviscerate. I'm looking for the molecular weight of SARMs and dependent on that, it MAY be possible to use SARMs topically, its still open to debate.

Just wanted to throw that out there, might be able to get around the taste. Verdict will hopefully be forthcoming. I too would like to try SARMs but not if the taste is this bad. Its already experimental enough, might just experiment with it as a topical.

On PP's site here: Topical Solution - Make your own transdermal formulais the "flavorless" topical solution to make your own. Works with compounds having a molecular weight of 500 or less, optimal MW is 300 or less and Needto believes the MW of SARMs is ~293 (waiting on confirmation) which would be perfect.

Lets cross our fingers :evil:
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Haha nice!

I believe the benefits may greatly out-weigh the taste....time will tell
 
You will get use to the taste soon enough. I can't say it is a good taste, but I do not even chase it anymore.

I have done split dosage and all at once- I prefer all at once.

I also did the 5 on 2 off to try and prevent the vision sides and no luck there so I just run 7 days. I just have a yellow hue when it is low light, no night blindness issues.

Good luck and I am in on your log.
 
Ha, the taste is not that bad, I start to look forward to it after about a week.

You will love the sarms s4.
 
Anyone who can get used to the taste has some serious issues!! LOL
I will post again about taste after week two but right now its burnt baloon plastic that has been melted down to drink!!
 
Im not a fan of sticking needle in my ass, but I have done it many times. Having to pin with HGH eod day sucks, but I do it.

Sarms taste is that bad considering the results. It really does not bother me at all.
 
Sweed!! yes bro, im good to go...I got my Grizzly equipment including wrist wraps elbow sleeves and lifting belt...oh and chalk offcourse lol

Took my dose of Sarms all at once today 50 mgs...taste was bad, but surprisingly not as bad as the first day...no vision sides either
 
I can't wait to try this stuff but really dread the taste....probably going to put mine in capsules!

Hope this stuff works great for ya Traz!
 
Took my 50mgs dose all at once today about 2 hours before the gym. Felt great. A little more energy than usual...was able to do a couple more sets as well.My pump was great.

The taste was still horrendous, but I think I'm starting to adapt to it though...
 
the_alcatraz said:
Sweed!! yes bro, im good to go...I got my Grizzly equipment including wrist wraps elbow sleeves and lifting belt...oh and chalk offcourse lol

Took my dose of Sarms all at once today 50 mgs...taste was bad, but surprisingly not as bad as the first day...no vision sides either
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Awesome Bro!!! KTS!! :D
Be a fun read for sure!
 
took another dose of SARMS today...

I wont lie I'm NOT getting used to the taste but it's getting easier to swallow

I feel more energetic, fuller and my overall composition looks better...that's just 5 days
 
my joints were hurting when I lifted today...not sure if SARMS had anything to do with that...sharp pain in my elbows, even at low weights...that's a side of HGH....SARMS?
 
the_alcatraz said:
my joints were hurting when I lifted today...not sure if SARMS had anything to do with that...sharp pain in my elbows, even at low weights...that's a side of HGH....SARMS?
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normally sarms helps with joint pain. Dont think its from the s4.

Any updates?
 
the_alcatraz said:
my joints were hurting when I lifted today...not sure if SARMS had anything to do with that...sharp pain in my elbows, even at low weights...that's a side of HGH....SARMS?
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HGH causes joint pains. How much are you using?

I did a 6 week SARMS cycle a while back and no sides except for the normal eye problems. I was running 50mg ED.
 
No more joint pain guys...taste - i can barely feel anymore after suckin on an ice cube

body composition is changing i see it

I will post pictures in about a month...
 
Hey guys. Took it for about 3 weeks and stopped it. Overall it's pretty good stuff....didn't see any sides period...I DID see some improvements though...nothing that comes near to what test does to your body.

In short the results when compared to supplements are profound, but when compared to actual juice are quite lacking.

I would still recommend taking it, def. helps when OFF. I was shooting loads like I'm Peter North.

I stopped it cause I started another cycle.
 
the_alcatraz said:
Hey guys. Took it for about 3 weeks and stopped it. Overall it's pretty good stuff....didn't see any sides period...I DID see some improvements though...nothing that comes near to what test does to your body.

In short the results when compared to supplements are profound, but when compared to actual juice are quite lacking.

I would still recommend taking it, def. helps when OFF. I was shooting loads like I'm Peter North.

I stopped it cause I started another cycle.
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Agree 100%

If the sauce is a 10 and GNC junk is a 1, I'd give SARMS-S4 a solid 7

It's great for pre-cycle work.
 
mrplunkey said:
Agree 100%

If the sauce is a 10 and GNC junk is a 1, I'd give SARMS-S4 a solid 7

It's great for pre-cycle work.
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Yep, its an amazing compound. Better results than pro-hormones, none of the nast sides of test.

Best compound to come down the pike in years.
 
the_alcatraz said:
Ok guys. I just received my bottle by mail.
Let's do this right.

I want to start today but hoping you could help me out.

Situation:

Diet - moderate / good
cycle - test e 300mgs ew
supplements - whey, creatine, arginine, multi, fish oil, glucusamine
training - will go into details on my log

Questions:

1- I'm going to take 25 mgs twice daily. Should I take 25 mgs 45 mins before gym and 25 mgs about 45 mins after gym??

2- I tried tasting literally a drop and I almost threw up. Suggestions? what to mix it with?? doesnt really mix with water or water based substances....how do you cope with the taste?

3- do you just put it under the tongue? down your throat...how do you take your dosages?

Appreciate the help!!
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You not taking anything for BP etc like red yeast, hawthorne, coq10?
Also what multi are you taking?, orange triad comes with a joint support in it. I used to get the glucosamine tabs in bulk but the triads got other stuff in it too. 6 pills a day is a bitch tho..
 
Dogfox said:
You not taking anything for BP etc like red yeast, hawthorne, coq10?
Also what multi are you taking?, orange triad comes with a joint support in it. I used to get the glucosamine tabs in bulk but the triads got other stuff in it too. 6 pills a day is a bitch tho..
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a multi is a multi bro

as for liver pills, most of the time i drink a shitload of cranberry juice and get some milk thisle
 
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