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The USA Needs a Good War!

2Thick

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The US will not appreciate what it has until it gets into a huge prolonged war where lots of American boys/girls lose their lives.

You ever wonder why the 1950s were so quiet...it was b/c of WW2.

The US does not understand Europe's reluctance to enter in war because the US has not had to deal with their cities being destroyed and occupied by enemy soldiers.

Maybe once a REAL war has taken place, then the country will clean itself up and focus on important issues such as constitutional rights and freedoms and will stop its political apathy from spreading to newer generations.
 
2Thick said:
The US will not appreciate what it has until it gets into a huge prolonged war where lots of American boys/girls lose their lives.

You ever wonder why the 1950s were so quiet...it was b/c of WW2.

The US does not understand Europe's reluctance to enter in war because the US has not had to deal with their cities being destroyed and occupied by enemy soldiers.

Maybe once a REAL war has taken place, then the country will clean itself up and focus on important issues such as constitutional rights and freedoms and will stop its political apathy from spreading to newer generations.

Hmmm...I have wondered about these things. Is improving the QOL substantially worth a major war? Good question.
 
i know many people will disagree with me but the american government is a big lie

and i feel the states try to be like the big bully on the school yard,they need to have a war every so often to exercise their powers and intimidate

whatever im a canadian what do i know,i think ill goto bed now
 
2Thick said:
The US will not appreciate what it has until it gets into a huge prolonged war where lots of American boys/girls lose their lives.

America as a whole or "the powers that be". Realize these are two seperate entities. Sure we can "rally round the fire, with a pocket full of shells" with the best of'em. However most Americans are clueless when it comes to the extent of our involvement in other countries. Even more so about the nature of that affair.

2Thick said:
You ever wonder why the 1950s were so quiet...it was b/c of WW2.[/B]

The 50's were not quite. Nor did WWII curtail our percieved warring ways. From Russia to Lebanon to Korea and then some. Ironically if you follow the timeline the U.S. was considered a neutral country, isolationist by some until Pearl Harbor. From that moment on it became U.S. policy to be proactive vice reactive. Hence the percieved "BULLY" icon. "paradox"

2Thick said:
The US does not understand Europe's reluctance to enter in war because the US has not had to deal with their cities being destroyed and occupied by enemy soldiers. [/B]

The bombing of Pearl Harbor and the World Trade Towers is enough for most Americans.

2Thick said:
Maybe once a REAL war has taken place, then the country will clean itself up and focus on important issues such as constitutional rights and freedoms and will stop its political apathy from spreading to newer generations. [/B]

I'm in agreement with you there. This needs to happen now. I never said America was a perfect place but most certainly not a bad place either. What we need is the U.N. to act in accord to the guidlines they set. Otherwise other rouge countries will percieve this transgression as a sign of weakness.
 
2Thick said:


The US does not understand Europe's reluctance to enter in war because the US has not had to deal with their cities being destroyed and occupied by enemy soldiers.

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How do you explain Englands stance then? I mean, they definitely know what it is like to be bombed(attemptedly) into submission, but they wholeheartedly(at least the Blair regime) support the USA in an Iraqi invasion. Your statement was too inclusive in my opinion.

That being said brother, MOST(if not all) of the Wars after WWII that the USA was involved in, had more economic and political overtones, moreso than anything even remotely dealing with "freedom". It has been documented that there were defense contracts to be lost, as one of the major reasons that the Vietnam War went on as long as it did. I think(my opinion) that the USA sees War as "ecomomic stimuli" at times. Afterall, War does do alot to put people to work,. I feel that a similar agenda exists with this BULLSHIT that the Republicans are trying to feed us now, as well as their persistence in persuing the USA's "War on Drugs". None of these reasons are justification for War.

By the way...In case spongebob decides to chime in asking where I got my documented info: Read The Arrogance of Power by Anthony Summers you goof.
 
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Re: Re: The USA Needs a Good War!

I live in the UK and I can say that there are many UK residents who are dead set against going to war with Iraq. Many support the war on terrorism.......but Iraq is seen as having been chosen for the wrong reasons.

I used to have alot of respect for Blair......he could have sorted this country out. However, wasting billions on a war when our country has other problems that this money could alleviate is just plain stupid. There are other reasons for my decreasing respect for him......but this situation just says it all.

Zerxes said:


How do you explain Englands stance then? I mean, they definitely know what it is like to be bombed(attemptedly) into submission, but they wholeheartedly(at least the Blair regime) support the USA in an Iraqi invasion. Your statement was too inclusive in my opinion.

That being said brother, MOST(if not all) of the Wars after WWII that the USA was involved in, had more economic and political overtones, moreso than anything even remotely dealing with "freedom". It has been documented that there were defense contracts to be lost, as one of the major reasons that the Vietnam War went on as long as it did. I think(my opinion) that the USA sees War as "ecomomic stimuli" at times. Afterall, War does do alot to put people to work,. I feel that a similar agenda exists with this BULLSHIT that the Republicans are trying to feed us now, as well as their persistence in persuing the USA's "War on Drugs". None of these reasons are justification for War.

By the way...In case spongebob decides to chime in asking where I got my documented info: Read The Arrogance of Power by Anthony Summers you goof.
 
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We HAD a long drawn out war- Vietnam- all it did was help divide the country.
However, Iraq, if Bush actualy has information that they are planning terrorist attacks, is different. We WERE attacked by terrorists. Iraq supports that terrorism. The destruction of the twin towers was an act of war- and we declared a war on terrorism- something we SHOULD have done 12 years ago.
 
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