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The Ultimate Athlete

the.gladiator1987

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Ok 2011 is gonna be a different year for me training wise, diet wise, AAS wise, girl wise, etc etc :) :stilleto:

Anyway, I am wondering how one would train to be an athlete in every aspect. What are the different categories for the ultimate athlete? So far I would say:

strength
size
short distance cardio
long distance cardio
balance
muscle endurance
bw exercise maxes
vertical


What else can you guys think of? i want it all. I know a lot of them contradict each other but i believe if you trained them you would still progress even if it is slowly.

I would definitely build this around the 5x5 since that gives me only 3 workout days leaving plenty of time to do everything else.

I bring this up because my shoulders will start to burn from doing dishes. i mean wtf lol i can do btn standing military press 225 for reps at a bw of 200.
 
stop flauntin the big calves EM lol.

cuthroat- i think he meant that he wants to know every aspect of athleticism and everything one needs to possess to be considered the "ultimate athlete"-- meaning everything from lifting to cardio
 
Decathlete would be pretty high on my list. They combine decent size, condition and all around strength and athleticism.

Gymnasts would be really high on my list. Get a gymnast to to do 5x5 squats and deads in addition to his regular gymnastics and throw in some moderate swimming for 500m for endurance type cardio and you have one helluva fit person.

Crossfit as was mentioned is a very good all around system as well.
 
Yep agree with ghetto.
 
But the thing is that on your list above things kinda cancle each other out.
Like Long distance cardio/Short distance cardio. At the beginning they coincide with each other. But then you have to decide which way you wanna go cuz they are very diff as to how you train, mucsles, cardiovascular etc.
 
Thanks guys.

is there any way to improve all of these at the same time? SLOWLY of course. I guess I wanna be strong and ripped, which i got covered for th most part, but i also want flexibility, agility, reaction time, good cardio, and I dont want my hands to burn after giving a massage for 1 minute. Or my forearms to start burning doing dishes.
 
Those things you are talking about could also be related to your test usage atm with the amount you are on.

I think you should pin point your goals man.

Anyone that wants to be decent at everything usually doesn't excell at anything.

Meaning you may be able to run 5 miles at a good clip, do the splits, walk around in a handstand, do 10 reps on the weighted chinup with +50lbs and still be able to bench 225 for a few reps and squat 315, but benching 300+ and squatting 400+ probably wouldn't be in the equation unless you devoted as much time to those aspects as every thing else.

The problem with that is you need to feed that while all those other activities burn bookoo calories and require a lighter bodyweight for maximum performance.

I'm not sure what you weight atm, but if you wanted to be all around super fit parkour as someone else listed is excellent.

My first choice would probably be gymnastics since it develops exceptional balance, flexibility and strength throughout the entire body as is all very usable in any other venue of performance.

One of these days you should condense it all into 1 to 2 things that you really want to be great at imo and then keep working on them year after year.

These guys that constantly change their focus, not necessarily the routine itself many times end up never accomplishing what they want or they never hit the level they could have in any one area.

If you want to be a generalist then more power to ya. Just remember it will take alot of work and time to become exceptional at that as well.
 
ghettostudmuffin said:
Those things you are talking about could also be related to your test usage atm with the amount you are on.

I think you should pin point your goals man.

Anyone that wants to be decent at everything usually doesn't excell at anything.

Meaning you may be able to run 5 miles at a good clip, do the splits, walk around in a handstand, do 10 reps on the weighted chinup with +50lbs and still be able to bench 225 for a few reps and squat 315, but benching 300+ and squatting 400+ probably wouldn't be in the equation unless you devoted as much time to those aspects as every thing else.

The problem with that is you need to feed that while all those other activities burn bookoo calories and require a lighter bodyweight for maximum performance.

I'm not sure what you weight atm, but if you wanted to be all around super fit parkour as someone else listed is excellent.

My first choice would probably be gymnastics since it develops exceptional balance, flexibility and strength throughout the entire body as is all very usable in any other venue of performance.

One of these days you should condense it all into 1 to 2 things that you really want to be great at imo and then keep working on them year after year.

These guys that constantly change their focus, not necessarily the routine itself many times end up never accomplishing what they want or they never hit the level they could have in any one area.

If you want to be a generalist then more power to ya. Just remember it will take alot of work and time to become exceptional at that as well.
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Great post bro.

Gymnastics and strength seem to be what I want most. Body composition will come with diet, and the way I train.

I weigh 202lbs right now. Pretty fuggin lean too. I also wanna work on my cardio but i dont care to run 5 miles. Maybe 1 mile at the most is all i care about long distance, and short distance cardio would be like HIIT.

So Im sure I can get strength, do gymnastics, and be able to work on short distance cardio at the same time. Im gonna build this around the 5x5 for sure. Maybe not the exact 5x5 but the whole 3 day full body workout is what works for me a lot.
 
I can't post a link to a website but if you google eatmoveimprove there's a website with a list of strength and conditioning standards/goals that's pretty cool, if you can hit level 3 or higher you're a bad dude. Id be happy to hit level 2, but I'm level 3 in alot of upper body but only level 1 lower body. There's alot of really solid strength training in gymnastics that's pretty hard to beat, front lever, back lever, handstand, kinda stuff has tremendous carryover to anything you do. I came into bodybuilding from that and as I watch my body look weaker and weaker I wonder more and more why I'm at the gym doing military presses and inclines and not doing back levers and handstand pushups. I still do 5 sets of handstands against the wall before every workout in my warmups and will add in more as my injuries from too much of it start to subside. Handstands and their variants are the superior exercise for delts, mine are great, by far my best bodypart.
 
dude, just be powerful and explosive, thats why we all train, anyone can run forever, running forever is gay, take some boxing/mma classes, you can work on your foot/handspeed, start jump roping that will make your shoulders strong and give em endurance. Do farmers carries and start rowing with thick bar grips or kettle balls to improve your grip and forearm strength. Squeeze the FUCK out of the bar whenever your lifting.
 
Like_a_Weed said:
I can't post a link to a website but if you google eatmoveimprove there's a website with a list of strength and conditioning standards/goals that's pretty cool, if you can hit level 3 or higher you're a bad dude. Id be happy to hit level 2, but I'm level 3 in alot of upper body but only level 1 lower body. There's alot of really solid strength training in gymnastics that's pretty hard to beat, front lever, back lever, handstand, kinda stuff has tremendous carryover to anything you do. I came into bodybuilding from that and as I watch my body look weaker and weaker I wonder more and more why I'm at the gym doing military presses and inclines and not doing back levers and handstand pushups. I still do 5 sets of handstands against the wall before every workout in my warmups and will add in more as my injuries from too much of it start to subside. Handstands and their variants are the superior exercise for delts, mine are great, by far my best bodypart.
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Skill Guidelines for Building Strong, Useful, Adaptable Athletes | Eat. Move. Improve.
 
There are ten recognized general physical skills. They are cardiovascular/respiratory endurance, stamina, strength, flexibility, power,
coordination, agility, balance, and accuracy

That would be Crossfit's definition,check it out. They have some pretty beastly guys there.
 
hollywoodfw said:
There are ten recognized general physical skills. They are cardiovascular/respiratory endurance, stamina, strength, flexibility, power,
coordination, agility, balance, and accuracy

That would be Crossfit's definition,check it out. They have some pretty beastly guys there.
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thats what I have been saying all along before people started telling me I am retarded. There is a reason that Special Forces and LE agencies etc swear by crossfit. If you want to be in great physical shape its the way to go. If you want to be "huge" its not the best.

one of the great things about living in cali to glad is that there are so many crossfit gyms around. I know there are some exceptional ones in sac near you, don't know if there are any right where your at.
 
I agree with that list. You would definitely be a pretty serious all around badass if you could do level 3 on every thing or level 4 on several of them with only a few at 2.
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
DEF gonna check out crossfit. I think that will get me where I wanna be seriously.

And maybe some random balance/gymnastic stuff, and bigger calves would be perfect. Sac has a lot of great places. Thanks for the responses guys
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Crossfit practices a number of gymnastics movements as well such as hand stand, hand stand push-ups, planche/L-sits, muscle ups, and a few other things. Go to their main site and check out their journal. 25 or 35 dollars a year and it's got a ton of awesome info on gymnastics stuff and some parkour and what not.
 
one other thing that I think is important for all athletic events is a strong grip, its pretty badass to have crushing hands imo too lol
 
Yeah grips important, I like seeing those guys using wraps for their 90# lat pulldowns!
Grips fun to train, farmers walk with blockweights, blockweight snatch, blockweight tossing, did I mention blockweights? Good shit! I have a blob I wish I could lift, I've deadlifted a 45# block, pinched 2x35s, 5x10s, closed the #3, bent the red, been off the grip since developing forearm/elbow problems, but as soon as I'm healed up..
 
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