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JerseyDevil
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I know one in a round about sort of way. He actually moved to CA recently.
His routine for using was anything and everything, doeses were well over 3 grams a week, and cycling? Yeah right. On year round.
His routine for using was anything and everything, doeses were well over 3 grams a week, and cycling? Yeah right. On year round.
Lift Chief
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This has been covered a lot. The point is that no one really knows.
But it's a lot and for a long time.
But it's a lot and for a long time.
gimp
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I know of 2 guys who recently got their pro cards in Canada.
Their cycles are basically....shoot everything in sight. Lots of test, I'm talking 3 to 4 grams, then they switch compounds, deca, d-bol, fina, every so often depending on availability. It's VERY scary.....test always as a base though. I know one guy who has been using Winstrol now for more than a year!
Their cycles are basically....shoot everything in sight. Lots of test, I'm talking 3 to 4 grams, then they switch compounds, deca, d-bol, fina, every so often depending on availability. It's VERY scary.....test always as a base though. I know one guy who has been using Winstrol now for more than a year!
Boulder257
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Just be natural...you know, like Ronnie!
sh4dowf4lcon
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WHEY PROTEIN AND TUNA BABY!! 
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This has been asked a million times. The best ansywer is: everything they can get their hands on or afford, year round. I'll cut and paste one of my old posts answer this question...
I'm sure it varies, and I've been fortunate enough to talked to a couple of pro's about what they use, but the most extreme case of abuse, was as follows. This is what he was one at the time, weighing 308 (off season) at 5'8". About 2.5 years ago.
Test, he didn't say what ester(s) 1000 mg ed (yes every day)
tren 200 mg ed
dbol 300 mg ed
proviron 100 mg ed
hgh 16 iu's ed
humalog 10 iu's X4 ed
igf-1 (don't remember the dose)
a-dex 2 mg ed
t3 50 mcg ed
clen 100 mcg ed
He has had serious kidney problems (and who knows what else) since I had the oportunity to speak with him. Which is not a surprise on 300 mg of dbol a day. By the way, he never placed in the top 5 at the Olympia, and I'm not naming his name.
Being a pro doesn't sound all that fun now, does it.
On the other hand, I met a nother pro with a very impressive physique, who used the following in the off season, and weighed a solid 260 (not fat or extremely bloated either). He swore that is is really what he bulks with in the off-season, even though alot of guys use much more.
800 mg of test cyp once a week
400 mg of deca once a week
100 mg of anadrol ed
50 mg of winstrol twice a week
6 iu's hgh 5 days on 2 off
1 mg a-dex ed
Its really all about genetics. 500 mg of test might give me 3 times the gains it gives you, and some other guy might gain twice the lbm I could on the same cycle.
I'm sure it varies, and I've been fortunate enough to talked to a couple of pro's about what they use, but the most extreme case of abuse, was as follows. This is what he was one at the time, weighing 308 (off season) at 5'8". About 2.5 years ago.
Test, he didn't say what ester(s) 1000 mg ed (yes every day)
tren 200 mg ed
dbol 300 mg ed
proviron 100 mg ed
hgh 16 iu's ed
humalog 10 iu's X4 ed
igf-1 (don't remember the dose)
a-dex 2 mg ed
t3 50 mcg ed
clen 100 mcg ed
He has had serious kidney problems (and who knows what else) since I had the oportunity to speak with him. Which is not a surprise on 300 mg of dbol a day. By the way, he never placed in the top 5 at the Olympia, and I'm not naming his name.
Being a pro doesn't sound all that fun now, does it.
On the other hand, I met a nother pro with a very impressive physique, who used the following in the off season, and weighed a solid 260 (not fat or extremely bloated either). He swore that is is really what he bulks with in the off-season, even though alot of guys use much more.
800 mg of test cyp once a week
400 mg of deca once a week
100 mg of anadrol ed
50 mg of winstrol twice a week
6 iu's hgh 5 days on 2 off
1 mg a-dex ed
Its really all about genetics. 500 mg of test might give me 3 times the gains it gives you, and some other guy might gain twice the lbm I could on the same cycle.
Dial_tone said:
They're Canadians therefore their genetics suck. They need that much juice to be competitive and sadly, they still won't be.
Who was the last Canadian to win a pro show other than Claude Groulx anyway?
(needsize excluded)
I dont have my pro card yet but they are keeping it warm with my name on it...
02gixxersix
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BodyByFinaplix said:
This is about what I have heard as well, although I have not ever talked to any pros about it. I heard mroe insulin though. i also seriously doubt anyone built a pro physique on the second cycle mentioned. He probbly ust didn't want to admit to his real doseages.
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02gixxersix said:
I've heard higher doses on insulin a well, but he admited to a gram of test a day and 300 mg of dbol a day, so why would he bother to lie about the insulin?
The second cycle sounds a bit weak for a guy his size as well, and he may have been lying, but all I can go on is what he told me, and swore he actually uses. He admited that it sounded pretty weak compaired to what he knew other guys were using.
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Now, here is my question for the newbies reading... considering that the second cycle sounds too mild for a physique like that, and the guy claiming it admited it was ALOT less than his rivals use, and those guys have great genetics... and considering the first cycle mentioned came right from the mouth of a top pro here is my question: do you REALLY want to get that big?
02gixxersix
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BodyByFinaplix said:
Yea your right about the insulin thing. I guess some guys can prolly just tolerate more. And maybe the second guy is just really lucky and has sick genetics.
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02gixxersix said:
Right, I've definatley noticed that people have different tolerances for insulin. Some can't handle 12 iu's a day, and other guys claim to use 100. The second guy had sick genetics, a super strickt diet year round, a good training ethic, and was not a 280 ibs monster at contest time.
I think alot of people who don't have the genetics to be a pro ( think Dave Palumbo) take a shitload of juice to try and get there anyway. I believe there are some pros who get by with 1.5 grams/week and I believe there are some who take 2-3 times that.
I take myself and what i've done on 500mg/week and look some of the shmucks on EF who are doing 3-4 times what I do and still look like big shitblobs.
I take myself and what i've done on 500mg/week and look some of the shmucks on EF who are doing 3-4 times what I do and still look like big shitblobs.
russiantank
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Had a Pro tell me this was his cycle:
2 grams of Test (would alternate Cyp one week and Enanthate the next).
1 gram of Deca OR 1 gram of Eq a week (whichever one he could get).
100 mgs of Anadrol OR 100 mgs D-bol a day.
50 iu's of Humalog a day.
HGH only when preparing for a contest.
Told me he liked to keep it simple and that people stacking 6 different things are stupid and there was really no reason to use more than 2 injectables and one oral in a cycle (offseason or precontest).
This guy said he has average genetics and it was all in training/eating/sleeping rather than steroid dosage.
I believe him because we have a mutual friend that has seen his personal stash and said that is exactly what he does.
2 grams of Test (would alternate Cyp one week and Enanthate the next).
1 gram of Deca OR 1 gram of Eq a week (whichever one he could get).
100 mgs of Anadrol OR 100 mgs D-bol a day.
50 iu's of Humalog a day.
HGH only when preparing for a contest.
Told me he liked to keep it simple and that people stacking 6 different things are stupid and there was really no reason to use more than 2 injectables and one oral in a cycle (offseason or precontest).
This guy said he has average genetics and it was all in training/eating/sleeping rather than steroid dosage.
I believe him because we have a mutual friend that has seen his personal stash and said that is exactly what he does.
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needsize said:
sure
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Bumping this to prevent the same question being asked this afternoon in a new thread.
02gixxersix
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BodyByFinaplix said:
There should seriously be a sticky for newbies with first cycles and PCT, problems with ingesting winny, Arnold's and various other pro's cycles, movie star's cycles, and a link to the search button.
supertech69
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Just thought this was an interesting thread that could be revived for others to read. It's about time for this question to pop up again anyway
I have a friend that I work with & yes I know exactly what he uses because he lived with me for a while. He can run 300-500mg test with absolutely nothing else along with some ephedrine & be very large & very ripped to the point of looking like the Hydroxycut dude. He doesn't look like that now though, he got married & doesn't work out very often anymore as well as his wife doesn't know he used/wants to use again & he's afraid to tell her. He's probably got some of the absolute best genetics I've seen & sadly the shit goes to total waste. BTW, half the time the fucker ate pb&j sandwiches & hot dogs while at home.
I have a friend that I work with & yes I know exactly what he uses because he lived with me for a while. He can run 300-500mg test with absolutely nothing else along with some ephedrine & be very large & very ripped to the point of looking like the Hydroxycut dude. He doesn't look like that now though, he got married & doesn't work out very often anymore as well as his wife doesn't know he used/wants to use again & he's afraid to tell her. He's probably got some of the absolute best genetics I've seen & sadly the shit goes to total waste. BTW, half the time the fucker ate pb&j sandwiches & hot dogs while at home.
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