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Nelson Montana

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Some may say this has nothing to do with steroids, but it does. And some may say it's a promotion. Well, it is and it isn't. There is some VERY interesting information here for anyone interested in growing muscle whether you're interested in actually using it or not . BUt I will be mentioning a product so if that offends your sensibilities, you can click off now and all it cost you was 10 seconds -- less than the time it will take to post a complaint. But I think you're going to like this.

First point: Steroids can not make muscle out of anything.

They need protein. And obviously a protein rich diet is key and any serious bodybuilder knows that it makes sense to swig down a couple of protein drinks a day to get an extra 80 grams or so. Easy enough. So why would anyone pay an extra 5 bucks a pound for something that is so easy to get? That's what some guys on the board have been asking about BIG BLAST. Fair enough. But BIG BLAST contains spray dried plasma serum and although that may sound like a fancy made up supplement marketing gimmick, it's science at its most useful to everyone here.

Now the thought of this is actually pretty gross. They extract plasma from blood and dehydrate it. (No, this isn't freeze dried blood. Plasma is a small, clear portion of blood though. And it contains essentially everything you need to grow, repair and stay alive).

A pint of blood equals about a spoonful of dried plasma serum. Within that spoonful is the most concentrated nitrogen food substance known to man.

And what really makes it different is that the body doesn't percieve it as something to be digested. It takes it as something that already belongs. Is this starting to sink in? That's fucking HUGE!!! This is protein that is essentially instant muscle. Of course, the body needs a reason to hold it. Hmmm, did anyone say "lifting weigts and steroids?!?!?"

By the way, the dried purified substance is tasteless.

So where did this stuff come from? Well, it was designed to be a substitute for hormone use in cattle. Below are some studies done with it. They tried it with mice first. The result. Some BIG ASS mice. Then they used it on pigs. The fat fuckers grew practically overnight. And it was muscle. Okay, how about chickens? Same thing. Those fed the SDPP grew at a greater rate. And anyone who's used BIG BLAST will tell you the same thing. Go to the "reviews" on the www.proteinfactory.com site. It has a 100% rating. Ask some of the vets who've used it with their PC.

Don't take my word for it. If you like the science tech stuff. Here you go. The real deal from people with no agenda and who couldn't give a holy fuck about bodybuilding.



http://jas.fass.org/cgi/content/abstract/73/8/2340

http://jas.fass.org/cgi/reprint/72/10/2690.pdf

http://www.ans.iastate.edu/report/air/2005pdf/2019.pdf

http://japr.fass.org/cgi/reprint/14/3/560

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5372811-description.html
 
Just bought some big blast last week and I must say there's a big difference in this compared to other mass builders. The others (muscle milk, cytogainer,etc. ) are just empty calories compared to this stuff. I'm sold on this product and recommend it to anyone.
 
hey neslon i was checking out the website
I saw something very interesting the "bovine protien"
i was curious to what you would consider the best combo for a custom complete protien
egg,bovine,whey?
then what carb oatmeal?
then add flax seed?
what would be the best ratio of them all

I am looking for 50/30/20 split
with as little sugar as I can with quality carbs.
 
hmmmm. interesting. I may have to give it a shot.
 
chazk said:
hey neslon i was checking out the website
I saw something very interesting the "bovine protien"
i was curious to what you would consider the best combo for a custom somplete protien
egg,bovine,whey?
then what carb oatmeal?
then add flax seed?
what would be the best ratio of them all

I am looking for 50/30/20 split
with as little sugar as I can with quality carbs.


The BIG BLAST combo is really the best ratio but admittedly it's designed as a weight gain drink. Hydrolyzed rice syrup and dextrose add calories. (And really make it taste good too). It also has cross filtered whey (the best of the commercial wheys) and whole egg -- which is far superior to egg white. I'm not a big fan of oatmeal but if you like it, go for it. And flax seed is very estrogenic so I avoid it.

BTW: Thanks for the props mickey. Glad to hear it's working out for you.
 
So this is a weight gainer? What differs this from others? Most other weight gainers are crap in that they are mostly sugar and in term help you add on a lot of fat rather than help you by supplimenting a lot more calories. im sure anyone here knows when bulking it can be tough to cram down 4000cals or more depending on your size.
 
Hybridtheory2o said:
So this is a weight gainer? What differs this from others? Most other weight gainers are crap in that they are mostly sugar and in term help you add on a lot of fat rather than help you by supplimenting a lot more calories. im sure anyone here knows when bulking it can be tough to cram down 4000cals or more depending on your size.

What differs it? Did you read the post? Most weight gainers are just cheap whey concentrate and lots of sugar. Why sugar and not fat? A; it's cheap. And B: sugar is digested quicker so you can drink a lot without getting full.

BIG BLAST has good sugars and good fats plus creatine, plus quality protein, plus whole egg, plus NO2, plus digestive enzymes plus the best nitrogen retaining substance available without a prescription.
 
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just read a article that NO2 can rob the body of nutrients
and cuase cellular damage when consumped in even moderate amounts
how do you feel on that nelson? it mentioned that b vitamins are the main cuase no2 seems to affect your bodys b vitamin metabolism
 
chazk said:
just read a article that NO2 can rob the body of nutrients
and cuase cellular damage when consumped in even moderate amounts
how do you feel on that nelson? it mentioned that b vitamins are the main cuase no2 seems to affect your bodys b vitamin metabolism

As is often the case with some of these studies they're using extreme examples. First of all, the body makes NO2 on it's own and it's present in some foods. WITHOUT IT there would be cell damage. (It's kind of like testoeterone, too much equals heart damage, too little equals heart damage. just right, you're golden). It's virtaully impossible to ingest that much NO2 and most bodybuilders take a multi which provides more than enough B complex to keep you covered .
 
Do you guys have something similar to this without the creatine?


Im looking for a high quaility MRP, but dont want the creatine.
 
SuperOne said:
Do you guys have something similar to this without the creatine?


Im looking for a high quaility MRP, but dont want the creatine.
You can mix any of the proteins at Protein Factory using the Super Plasma Serum. The creatine in BIG BLAST is the P12 form which isn't as bloating as creatine monohydrate.
 
goku_kakarot77 said:
how much serving in one container which is 1lbs

Most canisters of protein are at least 2 pounds. So, it's the same as any other protein powder in regard to servings. (A few weeks?)

I always have several protein compounds and flavors in the house so I don't burn out on one thing after a while, so I'm not exactly sure how long any one in particular lasts.
 
Interesting.

The protein bench is one of my fav sections in the lab and I have done loads of serum protein electrophoresis, or separating a lot of the protein out into the various 'areas' based on size and charge.

40-50% of this is going to be albumin, the other proteins are classified by 'groups':

Albumin and pre-albumin which is transthyrectin (carries thryoid hormone around the body)

Alpha Alpha-1-antitrypsin and loads of others

Beta-1 Think this is where you find HDL and LDL

Beta-2 C3 and C4 which are also acute immune response proteins

Globulins (which is your immunoglobulins or antibodies)

There are HUNDREDS of protein in serum (has fibrinogen in it)/plasma, I just listed the ones I remember that make up most of these 'bands'.

Nelson, please post up some more info on this, I find it fascinating.

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tatyana_zadorozny said:
Interesting.


Nelson, please post up some more info on this, I find it fascinating.






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A lot of what I have was hardcopy literature sent to me by Alex from Protein Factory who is the biggest protein geek on the planet. Those links were just a few examples.

I'm not sure how interested everyone is in the chemistry involved here. Simply put, protein can be divided in subfractions and the difference between protein sources is nominal, except when dealing with albumin as you mentioned. This is what makes SDPS so interesting. It essentially is what they've been trying to do to make protein more effective for years now. Of course, it wasn't a supplement company that discovered it. But PF were the first people to recognize the studies and actually obtain it and BIG BLAST is the first supplement to contain it.

I don't know how intersting this part is to many people, but here's a little history.

Back in the 60's Rheo Blair came up with what is basically the modern protein supplement. Up to that point it was soy, which was 90% protein and cheap. Perfect! But plant protein is not very absorable and is missing certain essential aminos. Rheo caught that while others didn't. Without getting too involved in the story Rheo was also a proponent of whole egg since egg albumin contains all the ingredients to create living cells. Now, what I did was mix some of Rheos concepts (milk product with whole egg) picked the best protein as the main source (cross filtered whey) added some of the standard weight gain ingredients that are known to work (creatine and NO2), improved the creatine so it wasn't as bloating (p12) included some enymes to help digestion (and old school tactic that has fallen out of favor, I'm not sure why), use hyrolized rice syrup which is fast absorbing but slow digesting, making it great energy souce as well as an ingredient that helps transport the nutrients. It also gives it a clean, natural sweetness. And then included the most recent discovery and the most concentrated protein substance on the planet, Super Plasma Protein.

The result is by far, the most powerful protein concoction on the market and I'm pretty proud of it.

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The only drawbacks are the costs. It would take four servings of the SDPP to get 20 grams of protein (based on their 5 grams per serving)

At $43.99 that is a steep price to pay for something you may not be able to stomach.

The only problem (for me) is that I personally am not really into weight gain protein powders. They tend to put fat on me. Not sure if Big Blast would contribute to this the way NLarge or others did.
 
AAP said:
The only drawbacks are the costs. It would take four servings of the SDPP to get 20 grams of protein (based on their 5 grams per serving)

At $43.99 that is a steep price to pay for something you may not be able to stomach.

The only problem (for me) is that I personally am not really into weight gain protein powders. They tend to put fat on me. Not sure if Big Blast would contribute to this the way NLarge or others did.

NO stomach problems at all bro -- less than a creatine drink.

Comparing BIG BLAST to N-Large is like comparing Primobollan to Nestle's Quik.
:)
 
Nelson Montana said:
NO stomach problems at all bro -- less than a creatine drink.

Comparing BIG BLAST to N-Large is like comparing Primobollan to Nestle's Quik.
:)


Throw a serving or two in a plastic bag from your kitchen and send me. And please don't have strawberry flavor.

Any kind of creatine (and NO products) give me the runs.
 
AAP said:
Throw a serving or two in a plastic bag from your kitchen and send me. And please don't have strawberry flavor.

Any kind of creatine (and NO products) give me the runs.

A serving isn't going to show you anything. A couple of dball tabs won't do anything either, does that mean it doesn't work?

Like anything else, effective supplementation requires a little commitment.
 
Nelson,

I have used Big Blast and this IS the BEST mass gainer I ever used! I wish this product was around about 25 years ago. I have my nephew on it and he is growing like a weed.

At this point, I'm not taking Big Blast. I'm looking to keep my muscle and drop about 5 lbs of fat. Is their a blend from Protein Factory you can recommned? Alex recommended the Advanced Muscle Gain protein. It is a combo of super plasma, hydrolyzed protein, whey fraction, micellar casein and egg white. What do you think of that product?

Is their a blend you can recommend with Super Plasma? I typically order a blend of whey isolate, micellar casein and egg white. I'd like to incorporate Super Plasma into my next blend. Thanks.
 
davej said:
Nelson,

I have used Big Blast and this IS the BEST mass gainer I ever used! I wish this product was around about 25 years ago. I have my nephew on it and he is growing like a weed.

At this point, I'm not taking Big Blast. I'm looking to keep my muscle and drop about 5 lbs of fat. Is their a blend from Protein Factory you can recommned? Alex recommended the Advanced Muscle Gain protein. It is a combo of super plasma, hydrolyzed protein, whey fraction, micellar casein and egg white. What do you think of that product?

Is their a blend you can recommend with Super Plasma? I typically order a blend of whey isolate, micellar casein and egg white. I'd like to incorporate Super Plasma into my next blend. Thanks.

It sounds like BIG BLAST without the creatine, good fats, NO2 and hydrolyzed rice syrup -- in other words, less calories and less weight gaining. That'll work (though hydrolyzed protein doesn't taste great). If BIG BLAST worked for you , you CAN use it as a meal replacement. It all comes down to calories and substituting a meal with it would add up to less calories.

Good to hear that BIG BLAST continues to get positive feedback -- pretty impresive for a shake since advanced guys have tried it all and rarely are impressed. It really is in a class by itself.
 
I was having trouble tracking down those studies so I dug up this thread from last year. An interesting read for anyone who has yet to see them.
 
Anything along the lines of a good supplement for using during a cutting cycle.
 
hc-- a tsp isn't very much. A tsp of whey isolate may have 6-7 grams. (Think of 5 amino capsules opend up. It's not much. A serving of BIG BLAST is 40 grams of protein. But the deal with the plasma isn;t so much the amount, it's the availability. Only a fraction of any protein source will tun into muscle. So let's say throughout the day you take in 200 grams of protein. That may build an ounce of muscle. (If you're lucky). Who's good at math? Who can tell me what percentage of protein actually was utilized? 1/2 %? Well, SPP is over five times more absorbable. So if you took in 200 grams of SSP that would mean a potential 5 ounces of muscle, which may not seem like a lot, but over time, it's huge. Of course, 200 grams of pure SPP is unrealistic but you get what I mean.

AAP. Your best bet might be to just make your own blend. Get some isolate and maybe add some SPP or even a little hydrolyzed, pick a flavor and off you go. Add a little ZIP to hype the thyroid, cut calories and train your ass off. Old school, but very effective .
 
xrsist said:
what flavours are availabe for big blast mate? how well does it mix with water or milk?

The flavor options are on the site. I prefer Tropical Orange mixed with water or juice with ice. (Sunny Delite if you want to be really decadent). You'll need a blender in which case it mixes really well.
 
Nelson Montana said:
The flavor options are on the site. I prefer Tropical Orange mixed with water or juice with ice. (Sunny Delite if you want to be really decadent). You'll need a blender in which case it mixes really well.

a simple shaker wont do?
 
xrsist said:
a simple shaker wont do?

It's up to you. It contains creatine and EFA's so it isn't as "instantized" as some others, but even still, I like the ice to be crushed up and you can't do that with a shaker. It'll work though. It all depends on what you're used to I guess.
 
Damn it Nelson, I just bought 5lbs of EAS Isolate yesterday!

Tapped out on money but next month for sure, Thanks for the heads up as always!

P.S. been reading your book.....very impressed!
 
You really don't NEED a blender to mix the BIG BLAST unless you are really finicky. I am totally fine to just chug it all down in 20 seconds so it really doesn't matter to me. ;)

BTW Nelson, what is your opinion on the "BEEFCAKE SHAKE" formula on P.F? I am using BIG BLAST after workouts & before bedtime, but when I do not have time to cook a proper meal with low GI carbs I use the BEEFCAKE shake....
 
bluejay said:
You really don't NEED a blender to mix the BIG BLAST unless you are really finicky. I am totally fine to just chug it all down in 20 seconds so it really doesn't matter to me. ;)

BTW Nelson, what is your opinion on the "BEEFCAKE SHAKE" formula on P.F? I am using BIG BLAST after workouts & before bedtime, but when I do not have time to cook a proper meal with low GI carbs I use the BEEFCAKE shake....

The Beefcake shake is a good product. (Not mine, but based on BIG BLAST). It's more of a straight protein drink without the emphasis on building mass. And it's an oatmeal base. (Not an oatmeal fan myself). But it has SPP and that's got to be good.
 
Nelson,

What other flavors have you found that mix well with water... Drinking too much milk currently between the protein shakes and oatmeal I eat and want to mix my big blast w/ water...

Thanks as always!
 
JslJsl22 said:
Nelson,

What other flavors have you found that mix well with water... Drinking too much milk currently between the protein shakes and oatmeal I eat and want to mix my big blast w/ water...

Thanks as always!

For me, chocolate, vanilla just don't work without milk. The fruit flavor fare much better -- Tropical Orange, Punch, etc.
 
JslJsl22 said:
Nelson,

What other flavors have you found that mix well with water... Drinking too much milk currently between the protein shakes and oatmeal I eat and want to mix my big blast w/ water...

Thanks as always!

For me, chocolate, vanilla just don't work without milk. The fruit flavors fare much better -- Tropical Orange, Punch, etc.
 
I find it kind of funny that everyone here has no prob sticking themselves daily with needles and going through night sweats/bloat/aggression etc. have such a hard time "picking" a flavor or committing to a protein formula! I've made several of my own protein formulas in the Lab on the site. Some taste good, others are absolutely wretched (too much hydroloized is baaaaaaad), but guess what? You just DRINK it. Not that big of deal. Pour, mix, slam, done. Then you grow. Have some fun with protein factory guys, its quality stuff and you can customize it. The only place I know that you can. Just make 1 lb or so until you find something that you like and that works. Thanks Nelson for the links about serum. Interesting reads.
 
I would hope people dont forget protein but I suppose some newbs would. I suppose it took me awhile to find the correlation if I go back 17 years. But definately, protein makes the difference.
 
galaxy said:
I would hope people dont forget protein but I suppose some newbs would. I suppose it took me awhile to find the correlation if I go back 17 years. But definately, protein makes the difference.

Took me a while too....thats why knowledge really is power when it comes to building muscle.... form, diet and dedication and you can achieve anything.
 
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