The IGF Thread

[black sheep]

Will start to pay attention here,

never found any use for HGH, tired it many times.

Have never done IGF,

However Kachunga’s gains are very impressive,

Black sheep how have your gains been, specifically.

I gained another 4lbs during PCT - I held more weight after PCT than most prior cycles. The same goes for strength - It did not drop off when the AAS cleared.

 

[Kachunga]

Hey how long was the total cycle and how long ago was this?

Whats up Busa, my site specific injection friend?
That was an 8 week cycle. Ended 10/20 I think. I am still on, just switched compounds and insulin for the Igf.

 

[krishna]

Can you gain any decent amount of muscle weight on igf alone?

 

[busamuscle]

Whats up Busa, my site specific injection friend?
That was an 8 week cycle. Ended 10/20 I think. I am still on, just switched compounds and insulin for the Igf.

so you ran the igf the last 4 weeks?did you run any AI's with that cycle?how would you compare those gains with other cycles?I am trying to figure out how much cellular growth we are geting from igf and how much will come later due to new cells!

 

[busamuscle]

Can you gain any decent amount of muscle weight on igf alone?

I think it would be best ran on cycle but will provide some gains alone.some of the gains from igf will come months down the road.

 

[drrman]

I've ran IGF three times now, going to start my fourth run here soon. First time i started at 60mcg split twice per day for 15 days then went to 80mcg.

Second cycle i went 100mcg/day split 50 am and 50 post workout, i'd say all in all this cycle of IGF put about 6-8 keepable pounds on me, and remember i've been juicing for over 8 years. So this was an AMAZING run for me. I ran it during a very heavy cycle but i've ran many numerous heavy cycles before and could never keep the weight I gained.

This past time I ran it again at 100mcg/day and had some great results, only ran it 20 days as i had something come up and couldn't complete the last 10 due to work and flying out of town.

Im going to run it during my PCT this next time, JUST IGF, nolva and clomid. Im coming off a cycle of tren and winstrol(and yes, NO test in there). Im anxious to see how it works for me. but all in all i recommend this drug to anyone trying to break through a plateau or get to another level.

But again, im not a fan of these E3D dosings and i don't believe in the site injection bullshit, as it simply doesn't make the muscle you inject it in grow any damn faster. and i can say that from experience, not a bunch of fucking reading other fuckers regurgitated information on other boards. I tried repeated bicep injects the first two runs and it simply didn't help the biceps.

anyways, good addition to a stack and a good addition to PCT. I recommend people try and run it midway through a cycle, then take some time off and finish the cycle then run IGF during PCT

 

[busamuscle]

I've ran IGF three times now, going to start my fourth run here soon. First time i started at 60mcg split twice per day for 15 days then went to 80mcg.

Second cycle i went 100mcg/day split 50 am and 50 post workout, i'd say all in all this cycle of IGF put about 6-8 keepable pounds on me, and remember i've been juicing for over 8 years. So this was an AMAZING run for me. I ran it during a very heavy cycle but i've ran many numerous heavy cycles before and could never keep the weight I gained.

This past time I ran it again at 100mcg/day and had some great results, only ran it 20 days as i had something come up and couldn't complete the last 10 due to work and flying out of town.

Im going to run it during my PCT this next time, JUST IGF, nolva and clomid. Im coming off a cycle of tren and winstrol(and yes, NO test in there). Im anxious to see how it works for me. but all in all i recommend this drug to anyone trying to break through a plateau or get to another level.

But again, im not a fan of these E3D dosings and i don't believe in the site injection bullshit, as it simply doesn't make the muscle you inject it in grow any damn faster. and i can say that from experience, not a bunch of fucking reading other fuckers regurgitated information on other boards. I tried repeated bicep injects the first two runs and it simply didn't help the biceps.

anyways, good addition to a stack and a good addition to PCT. I recommend people try and run it midway through a cycle, then take some time off and finish the cycle then run IGF during PCT

Thanks for the info drrman,your input means a lot.Here is some info I put up on another board on site injects!

I have not found any human trials but there is a drug for horses out developed for tendon repair called Tendotrophin by PrimeGRO.This is a locallized shot ( directly into the lesion) given of IGF to stimulat tenocyte proliferation and synthesis of type one collagen and proteoglycans.LR3 only has the 13 amino group on the n-terminus to prevent IGFBP-3 binding and thus would have no effect on IGF-1R binding.LR3 would move through the extracellular matrix,binding to any and all open receptors,before entering the blood!You can go to www.PrimeGRO.com click on Equin tendon repair.Then click on technical update select yes that you are a vet and their you have all the info you need.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

if you have a lagging bodypart...lets say legs...could you inject just once a week, directly after leg workout, 100mcg? then lets say like 2-3months later when you have finished your igf would you think the legs specifically would have grown?...just a question

 

[busamuscle]

if you have a lagging bodypart...lets say legs...could you inject just once a week, directly after leg workout, 100mcg? then lets say like 2-3months later when you have finished your igf would you think the legs specifically would have grown?...just a question

That is what we are trying to figure out.How long and how much igf for such effects to be seen.Here is some more info I put up.I would put up the web a direct link to this thread but this site is not a board sponsor.

One thing you have to remember is this is taking place on the microscopic cellular level.About 10000 average-sized human cells can fit on the head of a pin.So this could take some time to "see" the effects!We have to remember that some cells,due to cell fate and cell cycle,can turn off the gene coding for the mRNA that encodes the IGF-1R protien or block the IGF-1R's tyrosine kinase receptor on the cytosol side of the cell,stopping the signaling cascade.This is also how cells down regulate in response to over stimulation

So 100mcg of igf could lead to over stimulation and the receptors may not respond the following week,it is not known at this point!

 

[drrman]

if you have a lagging bodypart...lets say legs...could you inject just once a week, directly after leg workout, 100mcg? then lets say like 2-3months later when you have finished your igf would you think the legs specifically would have grown?...just a question

again, i just don't think the site inject shit did anything at all. biceps are a very small muscle compared to most any other muscle we train hard, and if two runs of bicep injects didn't make my bi's grow any more than my tris did i think i can say the site inject thing is a myth. if it didn't make my bi's grow any faster i really doubt its going to make a huge muscle like the quads grow faster