The IGF Thread

[Cutt29]

I don't remember exactly, it was starting to get too technical. Carth was asking Ulter about it and from what I understand the answer was it inhibits the functions of igf1 and hgh. So AIFM is great to use with juice only but not so great to use with hgh and igf1.
Ulter would be the one to ask for more info on this.

I asked Ulter tihs was his response Kachinga,
"That doesn't make any sense at all. I wouldn't say that. AIFM will raise test levels by dropping the estrogen levels. It wouldn't interfere."

 

[busamuscle]

Site injections dont work.. Ive tried them, and some really suck especially chest.. When I ran the IGF, I just stuck it in my quads everyday.. I might have done shoulders a few times too.. but quads were the easiest.

I guess it all comes down to who has real IGF-1 and who doesn't!
I already posted that it has been proven that IGF can be site specific!IGF-1 is also produced in muscle cells and works via the autocrine/paracrine pathways.

 

[liquidmuscle]

to answer your question about bringing it to the gym...yes i did. i brought a small cooler with a RTD protein shake, RTD carb drink and i topped it off with preloaded igf and a preloaded slin pin on ice.

 

[Ianhockey91]

#1 - How long did you run it-30days

#2 what dosage-66mcg

#3 where and when did you inject-bis, tris, delts, pecs, quads

#4 what else were you taking at the time-nothing

#5 did you take it with rHGH-no

#6 WHAT WERE YOUR RESULTS: Increased pumps, slight body fat decrease, tingling sensation in knees and elbows, and decreased joint pain. The decrease in pain was very VERY pronounced and has stayed with me.

 

[mrcashcream]

I've read conflicting reports about site injections for IGF, but if one was to just inject into say the quad, would it not also work for other worked muscles as well?

 

[Cutt29]

I've read conflicting reports about site injections for IGF, but if one was to just inject into say the quad, would it not also work for other worked muscles as well?

yes it would

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

so the igf is not stable enough to sit in the locker for like an hour while you work out...you have to keep it cold all the way until injection?
also what do you guys think of IM vs. subq....i have heard people say they went both ways....what do you guys think?

 

[Cutt29]

Can you gain any decent amount of muscle weight on igf alone?

when i ran it alone i gained roughly 5lbs while losing roughly 2% of bf, so while there was not much weight gain, there was a favorable change in body composition for me

 

[Cutt29]

so the igf is not stable enough to sit in the locker for like an hour while you work out...you have to keep it cold all the way until injection?
also what do you guys think of IM vs. subq....i have heard people say they went both ways....what do you guys think?

if you reconsitute the peptide correctly (.6% acetic acid) then yes it is very stable at room temp (in your locker) infact it is stable for 2 years at room temp
IM whithout a doubt

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

so you gotta get .6% acetic acid and the rest Bac water...how do you get it so perfect...thanks cutt