The greatest fighter of all time!

[Micker]

LOL, Bruce Lee would get his ass beat down by todays guys. He is WAY too small to be anything but compared to pound for pound. His abilities got magnified by his movies that made him look super human. No disrepect, I love Bruce lee. He was a brilliant guy and an awesome martial artist, but he would get completely killed by many many people today. He couldn't even make the UFC cut.

Ali is a boxer not a fighter, there is a difference. In a boxing match, he could stand with anyone, in a fight he would get eaten alive.

I think Chuck Lidell is what a fighter should be. Tough as nails, knockout power, incredible takedown defense, laser guided punches etc.. The guy is an animal.

 

[Got Cajones?]

No , no you do NOT .

You are ignorant to think sparring isnt the best way to get good at fighting.
Palehorse51 is right.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

No disrespect to Bruce Lee... But who the fuck did he ever fought???



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[Yarg!]

no sparring = no learning. end of discussion.

 

[ARMY]

Oddly enough , the 2 best fighters of all time arent on the list.
Nai Kanomtom - the Thai that defeated 12 burmese fighters back to back, during the siam / burma wars.

And more mordernly, Raymon Dekker. The only non thai to win Fighter of the year award in thailand.

Thats my 2 cents. Can I have my change plz.

 

[Djimbe]

Palehorse51 "you learn from fighting and sparring"



This right here exposes Djimbe as the armchair martial artist that he is. It is obvious you have never rolled. You are a kata, choeograped routine dancer.

You obviously dont train in BJJ. The Gracie training method of sparring or "rolling" at the end of training sessions is something you have not experienced.

"Rolling" is NOT Fighting . Its a training excercise NO DIFFERENT from (REAL) Taijiquan push hands done on the Floor . There is no CONTACT , and no HITTING , thus no need for RECOVERY . ANYONE can push hands and grapple every damned day . I SPAR between once a week to once a Month full contact with someone at my own level and somewhere near my size . And Id NEVER step that up to more than 2X a week , even when I was fighting heavily . If you dont know the difference then when you get hit for REAL by someone that has put REAL TIME into polishing their Tools , Stances , Footwork , Throws , and Power Generation you WILL be caught assed out .

 

[Djimbe]

there is actually a good point here.......you don't put someone in a sparring situation before they know how to properly execute the basics. "However".....once that has been achieved.......without sparring you will "freeze" on the street when that first punch comes beelining for your face. The best way to win a fight on the steet is do " A FEW" very basic things VERY WELL.......but most importantly you can't be afraid to get hit. You have to know how to keep composure after getting hit.......that's almost paramount to winning a fight. My old school actually went one further......they said "To give a shot, you have to take a shot". They're emphasis put you in your opponents wheelhouse.......they trained you to either hit first, or take the shot in a way which allows you to immediately deliver a counter blow which ends the fight. No pretty boys that ddn't want to get hit would last there........lol

Dude , I wholly agree with what youre saying here . And Ive NEVER advocated NOT sparring , its just not even REMOTELY plausible to do every day . Not in a system where you and your peers actually know how to HIT , and THROW . The body just dosent recouperate from that kind of trauma (when properly executed by ppl with Refined Technique) that quickly .

THe fact is that the "Fight Or Flight" trigger MUST be switched over to "FIGHT" before a student can be expected to assert themselves Violently in an aggressive physical confrontation . I have been known to jab a student in the face for HOURS waiting for them to figure out that I was NOT going to stop until they fought back .

Its trendy to waste a lot of time doing Halfassed Sparring these days . But the fact is that The AMOUNT of time you spend Sparring just isnt as great as is needed to getting the Techniques into the Muscular Memory themselves . Its the same with Music , you run a LOT of scales before you play gigs . And hell , you pretty much NEVER Improvise until the nioght of the show . but once your hands know ALL the moves PERFECTLY , doing so isnt so much a problem .

Sparring teaches you some good things , doing it too often or without proper prep can lead to bad habits as well .

 

[Djimbe]

Every training session should begin with conditioning/ drills move on to going over techniques for repetitions with a partner, and end with sparring.

Wrong . Never "teach" .

The fastest way to get good at fighting is by sparring, period.

No , the fastest way to get good at Fighting is actually learning how to fight , not flailing about like a Smacktard .

The one strike counter attack/ fight over stuff is totally unrealistic.

No , its called a Drill . Its how you learn what you are supposed to do when you Spar . Those Things have names like "Techniques" and "Counters" .

An attacker or opponent is not going to stand still for you while you execute your technique. Nor are they going to attack in the exact way that you have practiced for a specific move.

ANd if you let your Training Partners do this even in Drills then your school sucks . They should START OUT kind of like that , but by the time youre getting the hang of it they should be trying to take your head off with whatever it is youre working against .

Its called "Progressive Resistance" , and its not just for Bodybuilders !

This is where sparring and sparring only teaches how to execute a technique on someone that is going all out, intent on stopping your technique and implementing their own.

Wrong , thats what a Full-Stop Drill teaches . knowing what Im going to do before I do it dosent guarantee that you can stop me . Knowing the COUNTER dosent guarantee that you can prevail . If it did Cro Cop would NEVER AGAIN win with a High Kick . I mean , they KNOW hes going to throw it , right ?

SPARRING teaches you to read an opponent , setups, tactics , Trickery , commitment , working under pressure , working when fatigued , combination strings , flow ... *SIGH* you really should get better instruction , or actually GO to a class or two sometime .

 

[Djimbe]

You are ignorant to think sparring isnt the best way to get good at fighting.
Palehorse51 is right.

YOu are Ignorant to think that sparring alone will make you anything above the level of Yard Tard .

Sparring IS Important , its just not SOLELY Important . Heck , even if its "Most Important" its STILL not what you should do most OF .

ANYONE will tell you that the MOST Imprtant thing in Bodybuilding is eating . But if you ae 13 times a day and only went to the Gym once a month ? You NOT be a bodybuilder . Eating may be most Important , but LIFTING is what you do most of and Focus your energies doing .

 

[Djimbe]

No disrespect to Bruce Lee... But who the fuck did he ever fought???



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