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The Fina Kit "Shoot Out"

Two reasons that I don't like gotfina's directions. Vigorous shaking of the oil and dissolved pellets makes for a cloudy solution. Too much heat causes oxidation.....really, 20 minutes in boiling water (yes, you take it off the heat, but animal, who wrote the book on this stuff says the tren solution should never get so hot that you can not pick up the vial......well this vial was real hot!)
I got the lowest yield of cc's with this techique....the heat causes considerable dark layering and lost tren.
Finakits makes a great product, and I like the small amount of dissolving solution used. The less of that stuff in the injection, the better. Next time, I am going to use the slow, no crushing, no heating approach on chem's product, and I bet I get much better results.
 
I have a 4g kit from finakits, what instructions do you suggest useing? Or should I just use gotfina's site but without the shaking and heating? Also do you guys use the coffee filter and do you bake the finished product for sterility?:confused:
 
Yoda......try it with Mr. T's directions, or animals. There is no need to heat, bake or coffee filter. Just take your time.
 
ironmaster said:
Yoda......try it with Mr. T's directions, or animals. There is no need to heat, bake or coffee filter. Just take your time.
Ok, I read animal's directions, but my question is how do you seperate the binders without the heat? Also, how do I get all the solution without sucking up some of the gunk at the bottom trying to get that last little bit of tren? Thats what happened last time and I clogged the filter. So is it ok to use the coffee filter?
Thanks for the reply:confused:
 
Yoda.....I made one kit with 2 heat cycles, and one with no heat at all. The heated solution had a thick red/brown layer at the bottom after settling...oxidation...the no heat solution had only a very thin white layer at the bottom. I was able to draw up and filter virtually all the contents of the vial. It was so clear that it didn't clog the filter at all, and yielded more cc's than the other.
Animal uses minimal heat.....only if you are in a hurry to get pellets dissolved, and then to warm the solution for filtering....but like only warm....100 degrees. His kits come out great this way. Mr. T recommends no heat at all and produces a beautiful solution.
I really do not think the differences are in the kits, but in the means of preparation. I'm sure finakits would be perfect with the low/no heat approach. That was the other part of my test.....best receipe.
 
Mr. T. is he still behind...he hasnt answered my email in like a week...

and im about to give up on him, since ive heard that a lot of ppl were waiting crazy amounts of time...
 
Thanks for the info and the comments guys, I try the finakits intuction anf I got a darker color and a bit cloudy. Can seme one explain in more detail oxidation??
 
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