The cause of "Deca-Dick"

[cockdezl]

"Cock, exactly how does progestin interfere with 5-AR? Does it bind to 5-AR or inhibit 5-AR transcription... or...?"

Progesterone has a higher affinity for 5-AR, it is acting through competitive inhibtion.

"The reason being, if indeed progestin does block the actions of 5-AR by binding to it directly, that would mean that if you blocked progestin from its appripriate receptors in various tissues (ex. breast tissue) then it would leave more progestin in circulation. This would leave more for 5-AR interaction. Blocking 5-AR will prevent the conversion of nandralone to DHN. Nandralone has VERY high androgenic activity within the scalp... So basicly what I'm saying is that if progestin binds to 5-AR, Deca+Winny could mean additional hairloss outside of winny's direct androgenic activity within the scalp..."

Progesterone inhibition of 5-AR would definately cause more hair loss if used with Nandrolone, since it would prevent Nandrolone from converting to the weaker androgen, DHN. This is the same reason not to use Nandrolone with Finasteride. But remember that this is probably only related to progesterone, and not mediated through the progesterone receptor. The structure of progesterone imparts a greater affinity for 5-AR, so this does not apply to all progestins.

 

[Big Johnson]

if progestin binds to 5-AR, Deca+Winny could mean additional hairloss outside of winny's direct androgenic activity within the scalp...



-Stew

That's pretty slick thinking, Stew. I guess this would also mean a decca/winny cycle or a decca/anadrol cycle would both have the same effect; winny because it competes for PRs and increases free progesterone, and anadrol for the same reason.

So, would this be considered a synergistic affect? I only ask because I'm not certain whether or not DHN plays a role in decca's effectiveness.

 

[Stew Meat]

DHT is far more anabolic than test, but I don't know that DHN is more anabolic than nandralone... I would think so.



-Stew

 

[ADB]

stew, obviously you know exactly what your talking about - can i pick your brains for a few seconds?

I am a scrawny 32 yrs 6'0 170 pound guy who trains, moderately about 3 times per week - 2 years ago i was about 140 lbs and have managed to gain about 30 lbs in 2 years with a change of diet, protein supps and creatine. i've 200 dbol (naps) and if i take 8/day for about 3 weeks could i gain (and keep ) about 15 pounds? without stacking at all with decca or similar ( hard to get A.S. in england) also, do you think that cos of the short period of time i could do without clomid or proviron. I dont want to sound a p*ick but i've had the naps for about six weeks, can't get decca, can't get clomid etc. and want to experiment with the dbol. as for research i've tried and get conflicts all the time. any advice for me??

ps. m18 - thanks for the previous advice.

 

[str8cubano]

What i wanna know is, why the fuck do people do deca and not just stick with test? i know the combination of both gives much better gains, but still...why makes deca so much better than test?

 

[bookman40]

Great post! Great thread! Thanks for the Info.

 

[Stew Meat]

stew, obviously you know exactly what your talking about - can i pick your brains for a few seconds?

I am a scrawny 32 yrs 6'0 170 pound guy who trains, moderately about 3 times per week - 2 years ago i was about 140 lbs and have managed to gain about 30 lbs in 2 years with a change of diet, protein supps and creatine. i've 200 dbol (naps) and if i take 8/day for about 3 weeks could i gain (and keep ) about 15 pounds? without stacking at all with decca or similar ( hard to get A.S. in england) also, do you think that cos of the short period of time i could do without clomid or proviron. I dont want to sound a p*ick but i've had the naps for about six weeks, can't get decca, can't get clomid etc. and want to experiment with the dbol. as for research i've tried and get conflicts all the time. any advice for me??

ps. m18 - thanks for the previous advice.

Save the dbol till you are ready for a real cycle and you have the necessary ancilary products... You'll loose most of your gains otherwise.



-Stew

 

[2Thick]

There is no such thing as Deca Dick.

It is psychosomatic. All of this supposed "proof" is hearsay and speculation.

It only affects a small fraction of users and it strongly depends on what you think will happen.

 

[Stew Meat]

There is no such thing as Deca Dick.

It is psychosomatic. All of this supposed "proof" is hearsay and speculation.

It only affects a small fraction of users and it strongly depends on what you think will happen.

On dossages that you recomend, no one would experience it anyway

Fella, that's a mighty bold statement saying that there is no such thing as a scientificly proven and frequently experienced event such as "deca dick."



-Stew

 

[2Thick]

On dossages that you recomend, no one would experience it anyway

Fella, that's a mighty bold statement saying that there is no such thing as a scientificly proven and frequently experienced event such as "deca dick."



-Stew

That is why intelligent people who use moderate dosages don't have problems..lol

As you know, there are no scientific studies that prove what you claim. And as for the personal testimonials of board members...I would take that with a grain of salt.