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Testosterone users! How many mg of test are you currently doing per wk?
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FreakMonster
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Personally for me going from 500 to 750 wasn't much of a difference. I think I gained a couple more pounds of the 750 but it was mostly water and the sides were greater on the higher dosage.help4john said:
help4john
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That's what I thought. Sometimes more is not better. Logic dictates that when multiple forms of gear are used, the synergist effect will far outweigh the effects of any single ester alone. Rather than bumping up dosage, I have always reacted better by simply adding another compound.FreakMonster said:
ghettostudmuffin
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So then with this logic would a first timer be better off doing a cycle like:
CYCLE
D-bol weeks 1-4, 20mg ED
Test Enanthate or Sustan250 weeks 1-10, 250mgs once a week
Deca weeks 1-10, 200mg once a week
Hcg 500iu once a week maybe to keep the nuts up, .25mg arimidex a day for bloat and estrogen or .5mg EOD, Nolvadex on hand just in case
PCT
Day 1-80mg nolvadex, 1000iu hcg
Day 2-10 500iu every 3rd day, 40mg Nolva ED
Day 11-20 20mg nolvadex
That's roughly 470mgs a week in the beginning, and 450mg after you come off the d-bol.
I would think this would provide excellent gains, especially for someone that considers themselves to be a fairly easy gainer.
Am I wrong? This would definitely give better gains than test only at 500mg EW do to the synergistic effect?
What about if you cannot blow up too fast ormuch at any one time because you work at the gym you train at, but you want to gai nfaster than normal still? Would one be better served doing 8-10 week cycles of 1 roid only at moderately low dosages to see how different roids effect you before going to combinations of roids for cycles at higher dosages?
Like in one year maybe do a 12 week sustanon250 cycle only with no d-bol using arimidex for bloat. Doesn't it add up over the weeks do to the half lives so that you have more than 250mg per week floating around in ya after 2-3weeks and it keeps adding up?
Then take 4 weeks for pct and 2 months off, unless it's ok to come back 4 weeks after pct?
Then do a deca only cycle at 200-300mg every week for 12 weeks etc.
REst, then do an anavar only cycle for 2 months. Then rest 2 months, then a EQ cycle for 12 weeks, rest, then a primobolan cycle for 12 weeks and so on and so forth and see how you react to all the different kinds. Then pick the 2 or 3 best ones and use them on aregular basis and experiment with the dosage on them?
So it could take 3 or so years to cycle through all the different kinds and progress would not be as dramatic, but of course you'd still gain faster than a natural guy could.
What about constant short cycles. If time on should equal time off, then what about fast acting shorty's like 4 weeks npp, 4 off pct, then 4 week test prop, 4 off pct, then 4 week d-bol, then 4 off pct, then 4 week tren, 4 off pct, then 4 week primo, 4 off pct, 4 week anavar etc etc etc...?
Would taht work great and still stay healthy? Maybe not or only with fasct acting stuff and/or orals only? Better doing that same setup, but with 6 week cycles, not 4. Also doing 1000iu once in the middle of each cycle to keep testes up and once first day of pct? I checked out the pct forum and there seems to being many different ideads on how to do pct? How does it apply to short constant cycles like the ones above? How do you keep your nuts healthy if you'd rather do shorter, but more frequent and varied cycles rather than 8,10, or 12 week cycles?
Also, wouldn't 250mgs test a week be plenty for a beginner? I mean that's like having 25x the normal amount of test floating around in your body right? I'm sure I'd be soaring off that, but I'm a newb to this so my opinion on that means little lol.
Sorry if I'm getting this thread off track, but I think alot of poeple, especially newbs like me would find it very useful. Thanks.
CYCLE
D-bol weeks 1-4, 20mg ED
Test Enanthate or Sustan250 weeks 1-10, 250mgs once a week
Deca weeks 1-10, 200mg once a week
Hcg 500iu once a week maybe to keep the nuts up, .25mg arimidex a day for bloat and estrogen or .5mg EOD, Nolvadex on hand just in case
PCT
Day 1-80mg nolvadex, 1000iu hcg
Day 2-10 500iu every 3rd day, 40mg Nolva ED
Day 11-20 20mg nolvadex
That's roughly 470mgs a week in the beginning, and 450mg after you come off the d-bol.
I would think this would provide excellent gains, especially for someone that considers themselves to be a fairly easy gainer.
Am I wrong? This would definitely give better gains than test only at 500mg EW do to the synergistic effect?
What about if you cannot blow up too fast ormuch at any one time because you work at the gym you train at, but you want to gai nfaster than normal still? Would one be better served doing 8-10 week cycles of 1 roid only at moderately low dosages to see how different roids effect you before going to combinations of roids for cycles at higher dosages?
Like in one year maybe do a 12 week sustanon250 cycle only with no d-bol using arimidex for bloat. Doesn't it add up over the weeks do to the half lives so that you have more than 250mg per week floating around in ya after 2-3weeks and it keeps adding up?
Then take 4 weeks for pct and 2 months off, unless it's ok to come back 4 weeks after pct?
Then do a deca only cycle at 200-300mg every week for 12 weeks etc.
REst, then do an anavar only cycle for 2 months. Then rest 2 months, then a EQ cycle for 12 weeks, rest, then a primobolan cycle for 12 weeks and so on and so forth and see how you react to all the different kinds. Then pick the 2 or 3 best ones and use them on aregular basis and experiment with the dosage on them?
So it could take 3 or so years to cycle through all the different kinds and progress would not be as dramatic, but of course you'd still gain faster than a natural guy could.
What about constant short cycles. If time on should equal time off, then what about fast acting shorty's like 4 weeks npp, 4 off pct, then 4 week test prop, 4 off pct, then 4 week d-bol, then 4 off pct, then 4 week tren, 4 off pct, then 4 week primo, 4 off pct, 4 week anavar etc etc etc...?
Would taht work great and still stay healthy? Maybe not or only with fasct acting stuff and/or orals only? Better doing that same setup, but with 6 week cycles, not 4. Also doing 1000iu once in the middle of each cycle to keep testes up and once first day of pct? I checked out the pct forum and there seems to being many different ideads on how to do pct? How does it apply to short constant cycles like the ones above? How do you keep your nuts healthy if you'd rather do shorter, but more frequent and varied cycles rather than 8,10, or 12 week cycles?
Also, wouldn't 250mgs test a week be plenty for a beginner? I mean that's like having 25x the normal amount of test floating around in your body right? I'm sure I'd be soaring off that, but I'm a newb to this so my opinion on that means little lol.
Sorry if I'm getting this thread off track, but I think alot of poeple, especially newbs like me would find it very useful. Thanks.
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I've recently bumped to 600mgs for a short while, from 375. I hardly notice any difference, except more side effects. I read that you'd have to take in the neighborhood of 2 grams a week to see a significant effect. I'm just not willing to do that, so I may try what a stack and see how that goes. All I want to do is gain 20more lbs. of solid mass and I'll be happy. Gotta be a way to do it. What should I add to my test? I've tried 15 to 20mgs of anavar ED and that didn't make much of a difference either.
liquidmuscle
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anywhere between 400-600mgs works for me
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