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TESTOSTERONE IS IT Really The Best Steroid

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Big Wes

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Every where I look on all the steroid forums, all I here is Test this and Test that. It seems to be the main steroid in most cycles, used by members on the forums today. And without a doubt for good reason. Testosterone used properly is a very powerful tool to use in our arsonal to build muscle mass quickly and reliably. But is it the best steroid to use for permanet gains. I think not. Lets face the facts not many of us are professional bodybuilders on this forum or will ever be. The cost for the drugs and risk to your health far out weight any benifit in the long run, unless you know without a doubt you can crack the top 15 in the IFBB, and get those endorsement contracts.
Proffessional bodybuilders use testosterone like it's free candy. using insane dosages for years on end to develope the freaky mass they need to even stand on stage they then diet and use more drugs to get themselves ripped. All for a trophy and some recondnition. been there done that. Is test a great drug to get you massive in record time yes it is, so is Anadrol and Dianabol. but as we all know the gains dissapeer quickly even after proper PCT.
So unless you plan on staying on it all the time and you like looking like a water balloon thats about to pop. More power to ya. As an example to what i'm talking about take a look at Kevin Levrone, Rich Gaspari, and Flex Wheeler.
All great bodybuilders that were blown up on testosterone as the main steroid in there cycles. Now they are average size guys with lots of stretch marks. They would not even catch a second glance at my gym. they would blend in with the rest of the weekend warriors. Think about it since we have established that most of us are not pros and do maybe two or three cycles per year, I would assume most of us would like to keep alot of the size and strength from our cycles. and get our dollars worth other wise whats the point. Now I'm not saying give up using Testosterone i'm just saying using it differantly. for example replace testosterone as your base for Trenbolone. As we all know Tren is a powerful steroid that does not cause estrogen or water weight gain like test all the muscle here is high quality. with a great strength gain. the next drug on the list would be Test Propinate, one of the best testosterone products out there in my opinion. great gains less water retension than test cyp or enthanate. plus its out of your system quickly and gives you results instantly. the next steroid on the list is winstrol depot. another high quality steroid. great streghth gains and muscle density.
using thease kinds of steroids stacked together. give us the best of everything high quality muscle thats keepable and a huge strength gain that is also keepable. The test is used at a mild dosage of only 100mg every other day winstrol is at 50mg per day Tren Ethanate is 300mg per week. for only 8 weeks weeks with PCT at the end. Quick in quick out. with the test and winstrol.

The bottom line is I keep most of my gains and you can too.
 
LOL I have never used tren, and I have all my gains that I have made with Test only or Test based cycles.
 
What are you trying to say???? That Levrone only used long acting test. Thats why he has lost his size??? Are you making more gains then him now???? You recommend stacking instead of using just test, no one does this!!??? Test P is on the list that should be used instead of test....wtf?? I am confused as hell, maybe i need to read this over again; however, i am comfortable saying-please dont quit your day job!!!
 
I knew this was going to happen, anything but an open mind. even buy your own admissions you have never tried tren or nandrolones. yet your quick to through the Idea out the window. Thats ok. I'm very happy being 5'8 230lbs at 13% bodyfat permanatly. instead of part time.

If you guys don't understand that that's fine.
 
I think that you were trying to say is that other steroids give more keepable gains than long estered test. :worried: Ulter loves it when he hears that this steroid gives more keepable gains.
 
ive seen this same thing posted before. Ive tryed tren, and after all is said and done, I still like testosterone and will continue to use it.
 
LOL
Test is the building blocks for the foundation that makes us the men we are. There is no other way around this. Science has given us all kinds of great drugs to add in like Tren, but it still comes down to Test. Every cycle should have some kind of test in it and thats the truth ruth.
 
I just lost 18 seconds of my life and i WANT IT BACK RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

:kaioken:

T-Matt
 
Tab and Paragraphs are your friend...i would have been more motiivated to read this thread if it wasnt a giant block of text..
 
Big Wes said:
I knew this was going to happen, anything but an open mind. even buy your own admissions you have never tried tren or nandrolones. yet your quick to through the Idea out the window. Thats ok. I'm very happy being 5'8 230lbs at 13% bodyfat permanatly. instead of part time.

If you guys don't understand that that's fine.


Test is King in my book….. I am running Primo and Var now as a bridge…. I like the way I am looking but can’t wait to hit my next cycle of test, deca and slin…

I do loose a little weight after I come off test but usually not more than 5 lbs..
My last cycle was Test E, Tren and Masteron…
I started @ 10.4%bf 198lbs… 15 weeks later I was 6.2%BF and 213lbs.. I lost 8lbs of it during PCT and am holding steady… I was very pleased with my results!!

Did I mention test is king???? And

God made man..
Man made Tren..
Tren makes GODS!!

My 2ml,

Taoiron
 
Big Wes said:
Every where I look on all the steroid forums, all I here is Test this and Test that. It seems to be the main steroid in most cycles, used by members on the forums today. And without a doubt for good reason. Testosterone used properly is a very powerful tool to use in our arsonal to build muscle mass quickly and reliably. But is it the best steroid to use for permanet gains. I think not. Lets face the facts not many of us are professional bodybuilders on this forum or will ever be. The cost for the drugs and risk to your health far out weight any benifit in the long run, unless you know without a doubt you can crack the top 15 in the IFBB, and get those endorsement contracts.
Proffessional bodybuilders use testosterone like it's free candy. using insane dosages for years on end to develope the freaky mass they need to even stand on stage they then diet and use more drugs to get themselves ripped. All for a trophy and some recondnition. been there done that. Is test a great drug to get you massive in record time yes it is, so is Anadrol and Dianabol. but as we all know the gains dissapeer quickly even after proper PCT.
So unless you plan on staying on it all the time and you like looking like a water balloon thats about to pop. More power to ya. As an example to what i'm talking about take a look at Kevin Levrone, Rich Gaspari, and Flex Wheeler.
All great bodybuilders that were blown up on testosterone as the main steroid in there cycles. Now they are average size guys with lots of stretch marks. They would not even catch a second glance at my gym. they would blend in with the rest of the weekend warriors. Think about it since we have established that most of us are not pros and do maybe two or three cycles per year, I would assume most of us would like to keep alot of the size and strength from our cycles. and get our dollars worth other wise whats the point. Now I'm not saying give up using Testosterone i'm just saying using it differantly. for example replace testosterone as your base for Trenbolone. As we all know Tren is a powerful steroid that does not cause estrogen or water weight gain like test all the muscle here is high quality. with a great strength gain. the next drug on the list would be Test Propinate, one of the best testosterone products out there in my opinion. great gains less water retension than test cyp or enthanate. plus its out of your system quickly and gives you results instantly. the next steroid on the list is winstrol depot. another high quality steroid. great streghth gains and muscle density.
using thease kinds of steroids stacked together. give us the best of everything high quality muscle thats keepable and a huge strength gain that is also keepable. The test is used at a mild dosage of only 100mg every other day winstrol is at 50mg per day Tren Ethanate is 300mg per week. for only 8 weeks weeks with PCT at the end. Quick in quick out. with the test and winstrol.

The bottom line is I keep most of my gains and you can too.

Whata fuckin Balls post.
 
Big Wes said:
I knew this was going to happen, anything but an open mind. even buy your own admissions you have never tried tren or nandrolones. yet your quick to through the Idea out the window. Thats ok. I'm very happy being 5'8 230lbs at 13% bodyfat permanatly. instead of part time.

If you guys don't understand that that's fine.
test is king...period. I llke prop but I also like cyp. i have used everything...I have used things most on this board never will becasue it will never exist again and test is still the base of ALL my cycles.
I am also 5'7" at 227#....and 6.5 %. I would not be without test. and I do no PCT besides and estrogen blocker. And I am off now for the 6th week.
I do not get where you put Prop into a anti-test post...makes zero sense to me.
 
Quadsweep said:
test is king...period. I llke prop but I also like cyp. i have used everything...I have used things most on this board never will becasue it will never exist again and test is still the base of ALL my cycles.
I am also 5'7" at 227#....and 6.5 %. I would not be without test. and I do no PCT besides and estrogen blocker. And I am off now for the 6th week.
I do not get where you put Prop into a anti-test post...makes zero sense to me.
you're saying you don't use HCG at all? what do you use as an estrogen blocker?
 
silver_shadow said:
you're saying you don't use HCG at all? what do you use as an estrogen blocker?
Nope no Hcg. Usually Nolva the first month I am off. I do not need anything stronger at that point.

Q.
 
SS did you make from pellets or buy the Ace? How was insomnia/nightsweats?

Sometimes have sometimes don't have sides, never a big deal, just aggression,

alway have purchased, never have used the pellets.
 
silver_shadow said:
and your endo test returns to baseline without any problems? very interesting - what's your typical cycle length?
Hell I do not know what my levels are. I have had little balls for years! You cannot have big legs and big balls...not enough room. I always get wood though without issue so I suppose they recover well on their own. My cycles last 12-20 weeks depending on weather its a contest cycle or not. I diet 16 weeks so I am on the whole time and I try for a size/metabolism increase before I start the diet. I go off typically for 8 weeks or so.

Quadsweep
 
i love test, just can't run proviron with it. no need to say this because everyone should know this but i will anyway. the "gains" you lose with enanth and cyp are just water dude. you make the same gains using prop, enanth, or cyp. if your using the right amounts and timing.
 
For quality Keepable Gains there's only one way to go - you need to stack Turkish Primo with a hot pork injection in the glutes ED.

entertaining but bullshit, gear is gear and nothing lets you keep what God didn't mean you to keep when you come off. Levrone could blow back up to a 280lb monster in a couple of months if he went back on, it's called Genetics.

tren binding so tightly to the AR will actually cause you to lose more than pretty much anything else when you come off it, thanks to the severe suppresion it can cause
 
The other OBVIOUS fact he is ignoring when talking about Flex and Lavrone is not only are they not juicing, but they are not EATING like a BB'er either...without the diet to support that kind of muscle mass it is impossible to hold it. Test is great and other than a few water pounds, as long as you are using AE's and continue to take in the proper amounts of protien the gains are ABSOLUTELY keepable.
 
he <3's estrogen
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Big Wes said:
Every where I look on all the steroid forums, all I here is Test this and Test that. It seems to be the main steroid in most cycles, used by members on the forums today. And without a doubt for good reason. Testosterone used properly is a very powerful tool to use in our arsonal to build muscle mass quickly and reliably. But is it the best steroid to use for permanet gains. I think not. Lets face the facts not many of us are professional bodybuilders on this forum or will ever be. The cost for the drugs and risk to your health far out weight any benifit in the long run, unless you know without a doubt you can crack the top 15 in the IFBB, and get those endorsement contracts.
Proffessional bodybuilders use testosterone like it's free candy. using insane dosages for years on end to develope the freaky mass they need to even stand on stage they then diet and use more drugs to get themselves ripped. All for a trophy and some recondnition. been there done that. Is test a great drug to get you massive in record time yes it is, so is Anadrol and Dianabol. but as we all know the gains dissapeer quickly even after proper PCT.
So unless you plan on staying on it all the time and you like looking like a water balloon thats about to pop. More power to ya. As an example to what i'm talking about take a look at Kevin Levrone, Rich Gaspari, and Flex Wheeler.
All great bodybuilders that were blown up on testosterone as the main steroid in there cycles. Now they are average size guys with lots of stretch marks. They would not even catch a second glance at my gym. they would blend in with the rest of the weekend warriors. Think about it since we have established that most of us are not pros and do maybe two or three cycles per year, I would assume most of us would like to keep alot of the size and strength from our cycles. and get our dollars worth other wise whats the point. Now I'm not saying give up using Testosterone i'm just saying using it differantly. for example replace testosterone as your base for Trenbolone. As we all know Tren is a powerful steroid that does not cause estrogen or water weight gain like test all the muscle here is high quality. with a great strength gain. the next drug on the list would be Test Propinate, one of the best testosterone products out there in my opinion. great gains less water retension than test cyp or enthanate. plus its out of your system quickly and gives you results instantly. the next steroid on the list is winstrol depot. another high quality steroid. great streghth gains and muscle density.
using thease kinds of steroids stacked together. give us the best of everything high quality muscle thats keepable and a huge strength gain that is also keepable. The test is used at a mild dosage of only 100mg every other day winstrol is at 50mg per day Tren Ethanate is 300mg per week. for only 8 weeks weeks with PCT at the end. Quick in quick out. with the test and winstrol.

The bottom line is I keep most of my gains and you can too.



My brain just exploded
 
Test is King in my book….. I am running Primo and Var now as a bridge…. I like the way I am looking but can’t wait to hit my next cycle of test, deca and slin…

I do loose a little weight after I come off test but usually not more than 5 lbs..
My last cycle was Test E, Tren and Masteron…
I started @ 10.4%bf 198lbs… 15 weeks later I was 6.2%BF and 213lbs.. I lost 8lbs of it during PCT and am holding steady… I was very pleased with my results!!

Did I mention test is king???? And

taoiron, I am interested in your test, tren, mast cycle. A friend reccomended it for me, its called 1-rip isnt it? Would appreciate it if you gave more information on the side effects that you experienced, and whether they went away with proper pct or not.
Thank you v much.
 
Test is King in my book….. I am running Primo and Var now as a bridge…. I like the way I am looking but can’t wait to hit my next cycle of test, deca and slin…

I do loose a little weight after I come off test but usually not more than 5 lbs..
My last cycle was Test E, Tren and Masteron…
I started @ 10.4%bf 198lbs… 15 weeks later I was 6.2%BF and 213lbs.. I lost 8lbs of it during PCT and am holding steady… I was very pleased with my results!!

Did I mention test is king???? And

taoiron, I am interested in your test, tren, mast cycle. A friend reccomended it for me, its called 1-rip isnt it? Would appreciate it if you gave more information on the side effects that you experienced, and whether they went away with proper pct or not.
Thank you v much.



Your first post is a bump of a 6 year old thread? Shit dude, just start another one.
 
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