Test with what?

[nb01741]

IMO Helladrol would be perfect for you. Great gains and not a lot of bloat. I honestly think thats the obvious answer..

 

[BEAST420]

id prefer to run var over hella, id rather run a riod the a ph.. but the other fellas are telling me var wont be good for my goals

 

[Buildingup24]

You have your mind set on var even though a majority have said otherwise. Your mind is made up.

 

[Jigga14]

If your going for mass extend your cycle a few weeks and get some equipoise. Its not a harsh compound at all, and you'll gain some quality muscle.

 

[BEAST420]

My mind is not set on var.. Hmm i kinda like that idea, i havent read much about equipoise but i do kno that dbol is that methalyated... From what iv read it would be what a 16 week cycle? Isent that a bit long for first cylce?

 

[BEAST420]

What type of gains does equipoise yield?

 

[rustilldown]

What type of gains does equipoise yield?

Slow steady pump worthy gains. Keepable too . If you want mass the go diesel or dbol. Kickstart with the dbol and once the test is kicked in it shouldn't be so hard to keep the dbol gains. It's cheap and effective for mass.


Ride it like you stole it!!

 

[BEAST420]

That's sounds more reasonable... I'm thinking maybe 25 mg pre workout for 4 weeks w/ an a.i. ... What was ur experience with dbol?

 

[BEAST420]

Just talked to some buddies and they all said dbol is not the right route to go... They said gains are very hard to keep... Im literally so confused

 

[nb01741]

Gains are hard to keep if you don't run it right. Like the guy said above, if you kickstarted your cycle with Dbol (1-4) it would be much easier to maintain your gains from the Dbol bc your test will be kicking in around week 4-5. Dbol only cycles are hard to maintain size.