test/tren/mast OR test/tren/var

[stackmanpf77]

Getting my next cycle finalized, wantd some input on the two different options.

I'm leaning towards test/tren/var purely because all the literature says you have to be ultra lean to get the benefits from the test/tren/mast stack

THoughts?

(stats 6'4", 139.5kg, 12%BF, lifting since 2002)

 

[gymrat827]

mast will help with some of the tren sides. it is true, the leaner you are the most masteron will show its benefits, but it dont mean it doesnt work at all if your 13% BF.

tes/mast/tren is a classic cycle for a reason.

 

[stackmanpf77]

fuck it, test\tren\mast it is then. next stop = shredsville

 

[EZ_E]

If they're built properly either of those cycles will be tremendous

 

[dylangemelli]

ive got the shred stack for you but i am wondering if you have used tren before bro? if so then we can have you run tren e instead of ace and you can extend the cycle and shred the fuck up... either way, i have a nice cycle for you but i need to know if you want long or short esters here... let me know and i'll design something perfect for you...

 

[stackmanpf77]

I've done a single, really basic test p/tren a course for six weeks to see if i could handle the sides. dosing was at 100mg test p and 132.5mg (well, 1.5ml of 75mg tren a so you get the idea ) EoD, letrozone 8am/pm daily + caber .25mg e3d.
I don't think it did a huge amount in that time but the people around me swear black and blue it ripped the shit out of me. I DID notice substantial increase in strength almost from day dot. and my appetite, omg. see food, eat it.

As far as sides went, trensonmia was pretty insane (but i've been diagnosed with clinical insomnia for years now so have the right 'help' to get to bed which did the job just fine) as were the night sweats. Aggression went thru the roof, but it was in a very controlled, focused way. Didn't get all sketchy and agro like I do on Abombs, this was real crosshairs ready focus. So I think I lucked out, lol.

All ears to anything youve got to say Dylan, last two stacks you straightened up for me were awesome, bring it on bro!

 

[dylangemelli]

I've done a single, really basic test p/tren a course for six weeks to see if i could handle the sides. dosing was at 100mg test p and 132.5mg (well, 1.5ml of 75mg tren a so you get the idea ) EoD, letrozone 8am/pm daily + caber .25mg e3d.
I don't think it did a huge amount in that time but the people around me swear black and blue it ripped the shit out of me. I DID notice substantial increase in strength almost from day dot. and my appetite, omg. see food, eat it.

As far as sides went, trensonmia was pretty insane (but i've been diagnosed with clinical insomnia for years now so have the right 'help' to get to bed which did the job just fine) as were the night sweats. Aggression went thru the roof, but it was in a very controlled, focused way. Didn't get all sketchy and agro like I do on Abombs, this was real crosshairs ready focus. So I think I lucked out, lol.

All ears to anything youve got to say Dylan, last two stacks you straightened up for me were awesome, bring it on bro!

I have something very strong for you to run... here you go bro...


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[stackmanpf77]

I think I just gained four pounds reading that stack.... that is colossal, I LIKE!

thanks bro, will definitely be running that haha

*edit* I'd need to swap the winny for 'var though, winny dries my joints out to all buggery

 

[dylangemelli]

I think I just gained four pounds reading that stack.... that is colossal, I LIKE!

thanks bro, will definitely be running that haha

*edit* I'd need to swap the winny for 'var though, winny dries my joints out to all buggery

there's no problem with that brother... you will LOVE that cycle... it will be amazing for you... you should take a look at oxandrovar as opposed to either of the two... i promise you that you will absolutely love it...

 

[TheKid7]

Getting my next cycle finalized, wantd some input on the two different options.

I'm leaning towards test/tren/var purely because all the literature says you have to be ultra lean to get the benefits from the test/tren/mast stack

THoughts?

(stats 6'4", 139.5kg, 12%BF, lifting since 2002)

From my most recent cycle I started with test tren oxandrovar (really felt the avavar) and once I got around that 10% range is when I added Mast Prop. I will agree though it takes pretty high dosages of mast to really reap the benefits but yea starting with anavar and then Mast later is what I did and worked well. I am interested in Mast E like Dylan mentioned for sure

 

[STTM]

You don't have to be sub 10% to get benefits from Mast

What not just run all for of them?

 

[dylangemelli]

Mast is an aesthetic and if you want full benefit then you need low body fat... The results you see will be minimal with a higher body fat... I assure you on that


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[RickRock13]

I think Tren and Masteron go very well together, so I say Test/Tren/Mast for sure. I honestly don't see a reason you can't add Anavar to that too. One thing I definitely recommend is adding GW (Cardarine) to your cycle. I can't stress enough how much it helps with Tren side effects. You can pick it up at SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

 

[dylangemelli]

i gave you the best layout for your goals brother... you already know from running my cycles previously what kind of results they produce... the rest is up to you bro!

 

[stackmanpf77]

i gave you the best layout for your goals brother... you already know from running my cycles previously what kind of results they produce... the rest is up to you bro!

*points up* this, haha.

Dylan's polishing of stacks I've planned over the space of the last twelve months have helped me put on over 18kg and drop bodyfat from ~17% to what it is now, which is a little bit lower than when i started this thread.

Will be commencing the stack in two weeks' time, will be running a thread for it

 

[dylangemelli]

*points up* this, haha.

Dylan's polishing of stacks I've planned over the space of the last twelve months have helped me put on over 18kg and drop bodyfat from ~17% to what it is now, which is a little bit lower than when i started this thread.

Will be commencing the stack in two weeks' time, will be running a thread for it

you know i've always got you bro... you just let me know how i can help you achieve your goals and i am more than happy to help... did you get all the n2bm coupon codes? definitely keep a log as well...

 

[Rescue_Beast]

Ok just want second opinion, almost day late and a lot of $$$ short now....! Anyway I just got test/tren was told all I needed was this nothing else run till gone, increase test second and third week then tapper down till gone. First time ever dipping toes in this but damn it I want my gains.....! Is there anything else I need to run with this I know pct after but during ....? I am 44 6'0 202 lbs. at 20% bf workout 3-4 times a week. Please any "HELPFUL" advice will be appreciated

 

[RickRock13]

Ok just want second opinion, almost day late and a lot of $$$ short now....! Anyway I just got test/tren was told all I needed was this nothing else run till gone, increase test second and third week then tapper down till gone. First time ever dipping toes in this but damn it I want my gains.....! Is there anything else I need to run with this I know pct after but during ....? I am 44 6'0 202 lbs. at 20% bf workout 3-4 times a week. Please any "HELPFUL" advice will be appreciated

Is this your first cycle? If so you have no business messing with Tren bro. Stick with test only

 

[Rescue_Beast]

That's sounds pretty definitive not even at low dose ? and can I inquire why not ?

 

[dylangemelli]

That's sounds pretty definitive not even at low dose ? and can I inquire why not ?

answer me this... do you think its wise to pick the absolute harshest steroid you can run on your first cycle? do you think its wise to introduce your body to that first? would you jump on a harley when learning how to first ride a bike or would you get on a small street bike or even a moped first? would you just start shooting three pointers when learning how to play basketball or start in the paint and work your way out? your new to this and your going to question a veteran like rick when he's trying to help and protect you?

 

[Rescue_Beast]

Just asking questions man clarification for against it, I have talked to tons of people and get mixed answers some are completely for and others are completely against. Thanks to both of you for shedding more light