Test, tren and dbol stacking

[rawkstarr71]

Hey guys I've done a few cycles before, the last one which was mixed with test tren, decca and anadrol I had some libido issues, i believe I was mixing two compounds that were wrecking my libido, it took a few months to bounce back even with hcg. I do pretty good on test 250, mast tren, it only makes me horny and feel great. This current cycle is test 400, tren, mast and dbol.
I've been told to use 1cc each three times a week 1200 mg of test
600 mg of tren,600mg mast
50 mg a day dbol. I'm concerned because this test is 400 and I've read that 800mg was more than enough two times a week. I initially was doing .500 tren and 1cc of test and .50mg of dbol. I'm 45, workout everyday with two days off, mostly protein and green vegetables and plenty of water, body fat is roughly 25-30%, my goal is to put on muscle weight and cut down 25-30 lbs. I realize folks will day I'm too heavy but I can shed weight quick if my diet clean, sometimes two weeks ten pounds

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[muskate]

I would defiantly drop down your testosterone dosage to at least 800mg/week. I personally would drop it down to 600mg/week. Once your testosterone dosage gets up past 500mg/week, a lot of it is going to start aromatizing into estrogen (even with an AI). It will be counter productive to your goals because muscle grows best and it's easiest to burn body fat with low estrogen levels.

I would add cardarine into your cycle. Cardarine is pretty much the best supplement on the market for increasing fat loss and it is great for preventing tren related side effects. It isn't a hormone or a stimulant and very mild in the way of side effects. 20mg/day is a good dosage.
You can read up on it more here: http://www.evolutionary.org/cardarine/

 

[rawkstarr71]

Ok that's about 1.5cc total of of test 400, right? .500eod, and can cardarine be bought online without jumping thru hoops?

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[Settbud]

Tren and Deca raise your Prolactin levels. That's why your libido is gone. After an orgasm your brain floods your body with prolactin. This is the reason you loose your erection and don't really want to have sex again and again. So on tren and Deca especially, your prolactin levels can rise and little guy doesn't want to work anymore. You don't even have the desire to. Find Cabergoline. You can buy it online as a research chemical. It will lower your prolactin levels and make you want to have sexy 10 times a day. Musk ate is definitely right. Lower your dosages on everything. Especially if you've only done a few cycles. Less is more. You should stick with one or two compounds until you feel your progress has slowed. The next cycle you can raise your dose and or add compounds.


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[rawkstarr71]

Gotcha thanks for explaining, I opted not to use the decca , and I'm gonna pick up done cardamine and cabergoline. I already have some clen and t3 coming, it was ordered before I asked my questions, should I hold off on using those and stick to caber and cardamine? Or use for my cutting stage?

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[Settbud]

If your running Tren definitely run Caber... I'm in a perpetual bulking cycle so I can't help ya with the Clen or t3. I'm scared of t3. I can handle my balls shrinking but Id hate to shut my thyroid down.


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[rawkstarr71]

If your running Tren definitely run Caber... I'm in a perpetual bulking cycle so I can't help ya with the Clen or t3. I'm scared of t3. I can handle my balls shrinking but Id hate to shut my thyroid down.


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I've heard that it can do that, is it from higher doses? I was told it was great for shedding weight

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[stevesmi]

if you use a nandrolone you should always stack a DHT deriviative.. proviron is a great choice

the fact of the matter is nandrolones metabolize into Dihydronandrolone (DHN). this is why guys complain of dick problems on deca. so logic says you should stack in a dihydrotestosterone (DHT) to offset that.

prolactin is rarely a problem with either compound unless abused. that gets bantered way too much on forums in my view and is an easy excuse for people to blame

 

[rawkstarr71]

if you use a nandrolone you should always stack a DHT deriviative.. proviron is a great choice

the fact of the matter is nandrolones metabolize into Dihydronandrolone (DHN). this is why guys complain of dick problems on deca. so logic says you should stack in a dihydrotestosterone (DHT) to offset that.

prolactin is rarely a problem with either compound unless abused. that gets bantered way too much on forums in my view and is an easy excuse for people to blame

Thanks for the advice I may not try it this round but when I get the proper set up I'll give it a shot next round

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[Jay Scott]

If I would run tren or deca, I would have cabergoline for sure.

High prolactin is too much to handle

 

[rawkstarr71]

I'm running test, tren and dbol, I'm picking up some mast
Caber, cardarine and aromasin is on its way

 

[Lev Butlerov]

I'm running test, tren and dbol, I'm picking up some mast
Caber, cardarine and aromasin is on its way

This is good news. However, for the next time I would highly recommend you to have the ancillaries on hand before even starting the cycle, and you should be using them from the first day of the cycle, especially with the high dosages you use.

What's more, you should also have everything you need for PCT before starting the cycle. I have seen so many times guys experiencing troubles with getting what they need for PCT in the last moment, and as a result, instead of doing their PCT, they just lose time looking for the compounds needed.

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Is the mast strictly for the libido boost you get? Anything over 8% body fat and you wont really notice the muscle hardening effects.

 

[rawkstarr71]

This is good news. However, for the next time I would highly recommend you to have the ancillaries on hand before even starting the cycle, and you should be using them from the first day of the cycle, especially with the high dosages you use.

What's more, you should also have everything you need for PCT before starting the cycle. I have seen so many times guys experiencing troubles with getting what they need for PCT in the last moment, and as a result, instead of doing their PCT, they just lose time looking for the compounds needed.

I've always had nolva and Clomid, i reduce my doses so I'll see how it goes, past three cycles went fine except when I ran decca and anadrol, within weeks I was having trouble, horny as could be but couldn't perform, nothing is more frustrating

 

[rawkstarr71]

Is the mast strictly for the libido boost you get? Anything over 8% body fat and you wont really notice the muscle hardening effects.

My intentions are mostly weight loss, I'm already big, I don't mind getting a little bigger but I figured more muscle quicker weight loss when cutting. I'm over 8% body fat

 

[Lev Butlerov]

I've always had nolva and Clomid, i reduce my doses so I'll see how it goes, past three cycles went fine except when I ran decca and anadrol, within weeks I was having trouble, horny as could be but couldn't perform, nothing is more frustrating

The fact that you did not experience serious side effects before does not meant that you won't on a next cycle. This is the worst part of side effects - they are unpredictable, so you never know when they will take place. Therefore, it is best to prevent them, and reducing the dosages would be a good preventive measure.

As for the stack of deca and anadrol, you most probably had ED because both of them increase prolactin levels, which can lead to this kind of problems. Add the deca dick caused by dehydronandrolone, and you would get all that is needed to mess with your erections.

Luckily, prolactin levels are easy to control with cabergoline taken at 0.25 mgs EOD from the first day of the cycle. Then, for the next time you will run deca, the most efficient way of countering deca dick is by taking proviron.

 

[rawkstarr71]

The fact that you did not experience serious side effects before does not meant that you won't on a next cycle. This is the worst part of side effects - they are unpredictable, so you never know when they will take place. Therefore, it is best to prevent them, and reducing the dosages would be a good preventive measure.

As for the stack of deca and anadrol, you most probably had ED because both of them increase prolactin levels, which can lead to this kind of problems. Add the deca dick caused by dehydronandrolone, and you would get all that is needed to mess with your erections.

Luckily, prolactin levels are easy to control with cabergoline taken at 0.25 mgs EOD from the first day of the cycle. Then, for the next time you will run deca, the most efficient way of countering deca dick is by taking proviron.

Thank you, I'll definitely do that next round

 

[Capt ct]

Hey friends i am looking into doing my first cycle of trenE and test any advice i can get would be so helpful

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Hey friends i am looking into doing my first cycle of trenE and test any advice i can get would be so helpful

Hey man, start a new thread specifically for you. Your question will get lost here.