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I am about to start a cycle witht this. I was just wondering what the normal length cyle is of this type of test. Also how many mg should I be taking in a week about?
test propionate questions
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Age? stats? yrs of training? experience with AAS? diet? BF%? PCT planned?
the_alcatraz said:
Yes we cant give any advice without knowing any of these.
dirtydawgs33
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6'2 250 prolly 18% bodyfat this is my first cylce and gunna go with nolvadex for pct
dirtydawgs33 said:
How old are you and how long have you been training.
dirtydawgs33
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30 bout 3-4 years
I would get my bf down first.
dirtydawgs33 said:
Well if you are going to go with Prop i hope you are not afraid of needle because you will be needing to take EOD (Every other day) shots. For a first cycle with prop i would go with 100mgs eod for at least 6 wks but mabye more toward 8-10wks 100mgs eod will average around 350mgs ew which will be a perfect first cycle. Dont start a cycle unless you have everything you need on hand As far as and AI everything for PCT check out the PCT sticky at the top of the AAS page. You dont need to use clomid or nolvadex after this cycle just use the PCT stack of Unleashed Postcycle from proteinfactory.com and Sustain Alpha from primordialperformance.com and you will recover just fine.
advanced-stealth said:
good catch i didnt even see that. Get to around 11-12 % BF before you do this cycle and you will be much happier with the end result.
dirtydawgs33
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if i did it for 6 weeks would that be long enough or no
dirtydawgs33 said:
Yes that would be long enough and easier to recover from but like we said get he bf% down first and you will be more happy with the results and would be even more happy with an 8 week cycle of it.
dirtydawgs33 said:
First cycle with your stats and age????? Not prop, thats for sure. Hit the cardio for awhile until you are down to 10 to 12% BF. Do you think that after 3 to 4 years in the gym, and what are your routines like,,,???,,, that you have hit your natty plateau???
if so, then test-e at 500mg a week for 12 weeks, 25mg a day nolva throughout your cycle. 2 days after your last inject of test-e, start prop at eod injects for 2 weeks, and then 2 days after your last prop injection, start pct, which should be day 1 200mg clomid, then 50mg a day clomid for 3 weeks, 25 mg nolva ED for 3 weeks, and from day 1 of cycle until last day of pct, 50 to 75mg proviron ED, and then another 2 to 3 weeks proviron 75mg aday after pct. I will say from personal experience that proviron is great for sex drive durring and after pct, and as long as you dont exceed 100mg a day durring and after pct, it will NOT hinder recovery. Proviron also will help your body utilize the excess free test in your system, I would have to say by at least 10 to 15%.
IMHO, prop is the best bridge going into your pct. And proviron is the most synergistic compound you can do with a test only cycle.
JM.02
nickster#1 said:
Why is prop not good for a first cycle. I used it for my first cycle with great results. and you dont need to go with 500mgs ed week for a first cycle i wish some people would realize this. He would grow just fine with the 350mgs ew of prop shooting EOD.
ironcheif1984 said:
Most people doing a first cycle will get discouraged with ED or even EOD injections, and after the first week of not being able to sit down without discomfort from the prop, well, there is a reason why first cycle reccomendations are almost always a long single esthered test, like cyp or enanth. I do agree that 350 prop a week is plenty as you have less ester than enanth or cyp, but first cycle should be a long ester at 500mg.
You are one of the lucky ones because most people dont do prop first cycle and have a good experience.
props to you, bro. But first cycle for most people should be test only, long ester.
piningettysburg
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i did prop my first cycle, 140 eod... i was def comfortable injecting after that one (10 wks)
as for the pain, it all depends on who you use. ive used 3 diff UG's, some hurt and some don't
imho u'r better off getting it out of the way. once u've done truly painful prop, all the rest is a cakewalk. if you can take it of course
as for the pain, it all depends on who you use. ive used 3 diff UG's, some hurt and some don't
imho u'r better off getting it out of the way. once u've done truly painful prop, all the rest is a cakewalk. if you can take it of course
piningettysburg said:
Exactly. And i actually looked forward to taking my shots. Weird huh.
Burpees said:
Yeah but i think for every 100mgs Test prop is more powerful then Test E
Test E Profile---17b-hydroxy-4-androsten-3-one
Testosterone base + Enanthate ester
Molecular Weight: 412.6112
Molecular Weight (base): 288.429
Molecular Weight (ester): 130.1864
Formula (base): C19 H28 O2
Formula (ester):C7 H12 O
Melting Point (base): 155
Manufacturer: Various
Effective Dose (Men): 300-2000mg+ week
Effective Dose (Women): Not recommended
Active life: 15 days
Detection Time: 3 months
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:100/100.
Test Prop Profile---(Testosterone)
4-androstene-3-one, 17beta-ol
Testosterone base + Propionate ester
Molecular Weight (base): 288.429
Molecular Weight (ester): 74.0792
Formula (base): C19 H28 O2
Formula (ester): C3H6O2
Melting Point (base): 155
Melting Point (ester): 21C
Manufacturer: Various
Effective Dose (Men): 350-2000mg+ week.
Effective Dose (Women): 50-100mgs/week
Active life: 2-3 days
Detection Time: 2-3 weeks
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:100/100.
Chemical = Formula = Molecular Weight = Mg of Testosterone
Testosterone (no ester) = C19 H28 O2 = 288.4mg = 100mg
Propionate = C3 H4 O = 56.1mg = 83.72mg
Cypionate = C8 H4 O = 124.2mg = 69.90mg
give it a try..you may like injecting eod...i look forward to it..gives me that drive and motivation when i get out of bed...not sure why just feels like its doing something immediatly...(mental only i know) lmao 100-125mg eod would be good 6-8 weeks
have some adex on hand incase you need it which you probally will not..get some hcg and nolva for pct
have some adex on hand incase you need it which you probally will not..get some hcg and nolva for pct
bsdgeek
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bro, the half life of prop is 4.5 days. it'll be fine for your first cycle. you could get away with pinning twice a week, and dropping bf first is one way to do it, but most of the guys in bb-ing add bulk first then dropo the bf. why? you may ask. well, it's simple, for every 5 lbs of lean mass you add to your frame, you'll burn approximately 75 more calories per hour resting. so, add the muscle, bump up the cardio a bit. let the muscle help you to burn the fat. jus my 2.
bsdgeek
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nickster#1 said:
sorry bro, i'd have to disagree with part of what you're saying. 500 mg per week for a newbie is a bit much. an ester that clears the system faster is a good way to go if you get bad sides(which most people don't). but low dose test cyp or enan would be good if he had a problem with pinning, say starting around 250 - 350 mg per week for a first cycle. this would minimize the sides and give him less problems and would let him know how his body reacts to the compound. i'd still say he'd be good to go with the prop 2x week. 200 mg per pin. that'd keep your blood levels around 300 - 350 mg per week, this of course off the top of my head, after several beers.
