I'm on day 17 of test prop at 150mg EOD. This crap sucks. My legs are killing me and I'm continually dealing with "test flu". My body is accustomed to the hormones because I'm on TRT, but this crap sucks. I don't want my wife around me because my thighs hurt so bad. My delta are better but I don't have to walk on those and can't use them exclusively. I've put some weight on but my strength hasn't really gotten any better.
I've read the "flu" is because you body isn't used to the new level of hormones. If so, WTF is the point of short esters?! Every new shot means an untouchably painful muscle for 3-5 days and new flu symptoms. I'm too sore and sick to enjoy being on a cycle.
Why would people use this crap?!?! I got a cycle's worth because it was all my guy had but I might end up pitching it.
Maybe because tren e is 100% intended for UG use.
It was never approved for human or veterinary use.
Nobody will spend millions to get it certified when tren hexahydrobenzylcarbonate is already certified and available.
The chinese labs know it and cut corners.
So no legal pharma or veterinary company will try to sue or get refunds because of bad lab tests.
I've seen some generic tren ace cattle implants (although with estradiol) legally sold here at veterinary stores.
The chinese know they will be tested to get the generic approved, so they will sell a fairly pure product.
for the pain after shot I recommend you to put hot bag on the area of injection , it will really help to reduce the pain next day , I use this method always in beginning of each cycle because of virgin muscle pain
Yeah! I hear you , Test prop is some painful stuff, i don't have that problem with masteron prop, tren ace or any other compounds. Before tossing it i would mix it with some Test enanthate or cypionate, or some other compound.At least it would make things more bearable.
I never get why people even use prop or short esters unless being tested..... hassle and for what? results start coming a few days quicker?
ill stick with my test e or cyp thank you very much....
even tren, unless first time, i rec trene
screw short esters, specially prop, unless i got a crazy deal on sust, screw it
My guy only had prop. I didn't want it but also didn't want to wait for cyp or enan. Took a risk and it didn't work out.
My last shot was Saturday. It was my left thigh and the second time I hit that muscle. So now it's Tuesday and my leg is still gunshot sore and I've got some nasty "flu". I can't skip work but at least I've been able to play it off as a bug.
If your tren a and test P hurt that bad buy from a different place or take a class on injecting.
There is no reason for your leg to hurt more than 5 min for tren A. And test P is best to mix with something else.
Polar bear. Who the F is giving classes on pinning?! Is there advanced pinning? Can I get a degree in pinning? because I think I've fulfilled the requirements x10 haha
I used Sust twice ... and swore I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER touch that shit again ... let alone even CONSIDERING running a clean Test Prop. No matter what PIP method I tried, how I massaged it, how hot or cold treatment protocol I followed, I could not get rid of the 'You've just been kicked by a mule on juice' muscle pain. Hate the shit ... won't touch it again ... ever. Sure, it has benefits being short estered, but unfortunately, my body cannot handle the ester ... at all.
Polar bear. Who the F is giving classes on pinning?! Is there advanced pinning? Can I get a degree in pinning? because I think I've fulfilled the requirements x10 haha
Yes there are classes on pinning and your endo will have an RN teach you.
One of the prereqs to being allowed to leave any of the endo offices I have been on TRT from is allowing the RN there to train you on giving yourself the shots. The 1st endo I went to I had to watch a 10min video answer several questions from the RN and then do the 1st shot in front of her correctly. Since then whenever I get a new endo I just have to let them know already went through all that and sometimes not often they will make me demonstrate the 1st shot.
So yes any DR that is sending you home with an inter-muscular injection prescription should be making sure you know how and where to do them and if not having one of his RNs teach you. So my question to you would be who the hell is prescribing you IM shots without making sure you even know how to give them?
Yes there are classes on pinning and your endo will have an RN teach you.
One of the prereqs to being allowed to leave any of the endo offices I have been on TRT from is allowing the RN there to train you on giving yourself the shots. The 1st endo I went to I had to watch a 10min video answer several questions from the RN and then do the 1st shot in front of her correctly. Since then whenever I get a new endo I just have to let them know already went through all that and sometimes not often they will make me demonstrate the 1st shot.
So yes any DR that is sending you home with an inter-muscular injection prescription should be making sure you know how and where to do them and if not having one of his RNs teach you. So my question to you would be who the hell is prescribing you IM shots without making sure you even know how to give them?
My left thigh, the site of my last injection four days ago, just isn't getting better! The redness and pain has spread to the size of a medium dinner plate. It's not infected, but my body just hates this shit. Pain is still very bad, but just a teensy bit less. Still have a flu cough but energy almost back to normal.
This was the second injection in that thigh. If I'd gone ahead with the rotation and hit my right thigh on Monday I'm pretty sure I would be dead. From suicide.
You asked who gives pinning classes and I answered you...anyone who writes scripts that are IM, anyplace teaching CNA, RN, LPN classes, anyplace teaching emergency AID, 1st responder classes...you can get them just about anywhere...
Agree, not understanding the fascination. Many charts I've seen show enanthate or cyp peaking after a day or so. So people are going through the pain for what, to get blood levels up 12 hours sooner?
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