Test E swollen feet and ankles

[PhillyPA#1]

Im 5 weeks into my first cycle. im running Test E at 500mg a week. 250mg every Monday and Thursday. My feet no longer fit into the same size sneaker and my ankles are noticably swollen. Im assuming its water retention. Is this safe, normal?

 

[blut wump]

Are you running an AI? Are you drinking at least a gallon of water per day? Are you keeping an eye on your electrolytes intake such that you're consuming more potassium than sodium? You might want to get your blood pressure checked.

 

[PhillyPA#1]

not running aromatase inhibitor. Yes drinking atleast a gallon of water. Diet is good. Blood pressure known to be high. I always have numbness in hands when I wake up in middle of the night.

 

[blut wump]

An A-I should help a lot. Oestrogen can lead to bloating. Aromasin is a good choice.

Try to increase your potassium intake. That should help, too.

Numb hands during the night could simply be due to compressing your ulnar nerve. I get that when I sleep in a tshirt.

Take care with your BP.

 

[rfowler]

Im 5 weeks into my first cycle. im running testosterone enanthate at 500mg a week. 250mg every Monday and Thursday. My feet no longer fit into the same size sneaker and my ankles are noticably swollen. Im assuming its water retention. Is this safe, normal?

swelling in the ankles is not a good sign its definitely bp related swollen ankles more than anything alarm docs of congestive heart failure. Have the bp monitored and run an AI

 

[jevans]

swelling in the ankles is not a good sign its definitely bp related swollen ankles more than anything alarm docs of congestive heart failure. Have the bp monitored and run an aromatase inhibitor

Quit taking whatever it is you're taking. Your body can't handle it. That is a clear sign of congestive heart failure. Go see a cardiologist and get your ticker checked out. Tell them your feet and ankles are swelling and they'll know exactly what to do. Do a search on congestive heart failure on WebMD or just google it and see if you have any other symptoms that you may have just been blaming on the hormones.

 

[PhillyPA#1]

I been reading and seems to be a side effect of test E

 

[rfowler]

I been reading and seems to be a side effect of testosterone enanthate

It could very well be a side of the test. And if it were just swollen fingers i wouldnt worry but when the ankles and feet start collecting fluid it is somehow heart or kidney related the majority of the time. Better to know all the possibilities than right it off as nothing. Good luck bro.

 

[centy]

The edema can be caused by water retention. Drink 2 gallons of water a day and add in an AI. This is a side effect of your gear.

However, if your shoes don't even fit, that's pretty severe... Maybe the other bros ^ have a point.

 

[rfowler]

The edema can be caused by water retention. Drink 2 gallons of water a day and add in an aromatase inhibitor. This is a side effect of your gear.

However, if your shoes don't even fit, that's pretty severe... Maybe the other bros ^ have a point.

Im 50/50 on this because my gut feeling is that his historically high bp having steroids added into the equation could be causing kidney issues. my friend had to have a kidney transplant and his first symptom was swollen feet and ankles. Are you on bp meds, because high bp is a terrible stressor for the old kidneys?

 

[PhillyPA#1]

anyone faster and cheaper than AG? pm me.

 

[ceo]

I been reading and seems to be a side effect of testosterone enanthate

translation: You guys don't know shit. I ain't changing a thing.



Don't you love when people ask advice then ignore it or basically tell you they know better than you anyway?


Just stay the course bro. You're fine.

 

[PhillyPA#1]

translation: You guys don't know shit. I ain't changing a thing.



Don't you love when people ask advice then ignore it or basically tell you they know better than you anyway?


Just stay the course bro. You're fine.

HAHA, funny. That was in response to "stop taking what your using immediatly". I am not overly concerned. I was just curious to see if others have experienced this. Im sure that it is a direct result of the Test E. I will likely look for an AI to take and im hoping that this will take care of the problem.

 

[rudy76]

HAHA, funny. That was in response to "stop taking what your using immediatly". I am not overly concerned. I was just curious to see if others have experienced this. Im sure that it is a direct result of the testosterone enanthate. I will likely look for an aromatase inhibitor to take and im hoping that this will take care of the problem.

There are a lot of arm chair doctors on this site. Bloating in the legs and ankles can be a sign of many things, heart or kidney failure are some of them but no-one can say for sure other than lab tests - that's right, not even a doctor could tell you by looking.

When I stand all day at work my ankles swell - shitty for me - my heart must have failed....BS. You're tougher than you think. Get an AI.

 

[ceo]

There are a lot of arm chair doctors on this site. Bloating in the legs and ankles can be a sign of many things, heart or kidney failure are some of them but no-one can say for sure other than lab tests - that's right, not even a doctor could tell you by looking.

When I stand all day at work my ankles swell - shitty for me - my heart must have failed....BS. You're tougher than you think. Get an aromatase inhibitor.

but seeing a real MD would be stupid. Just shitty advice for anyone to suggest that!!

 

[needtogetaas]

but seeing a real MD would be stupid. Just shitty advice for anyone to suggest that!!

lmao. Yes best thing to do is go see the doc. When in doubt see the doc. If its something that can end up being a big problem see the doc.

 

[centy]

Organ failure is for pussies.

 

[PhillyPA#1]

Organ failure is for pussies.

LOL

 

[Donnie Darko]

Testosterone, estrogen, etc...can cause fluid retention in the extremities such as the feet and ankles. My thought would be that if your BP is high, then see a doctor because there would be a better possibility of congestive heart failure. It isn't a heart attack, but it is a weakening of the heart and it's ability to send enough oxygen and blood to the extremities and these can lead to a heart attack later. If this does concern you then you really should see a doctor. I'm not a doctor but I have done diagnostic work for doctors in pathology as well as offering them the best treatments for patients. Just keep an eye on BP, any irregular heart beats, and use your best judgment.

 

[rudy76]

but seeing a real MD would be stupid. Just shitty advice for anyone to suggest that!!

Where did I say that - if your going to suggest that's shitty advice you should read what I wrote first. I said a real doc would be unable to tell by looking, only a lab test will show the cause. How do you think one would go about getting lab tests done - through a doctor!

 

[eddymerckx]

Quit taking whatever it is you're taking. Your body can't handle it. That is a clear sign of congestive heart failure. Go see a cardiologist and get your ticker checked out. Tell them your feet and ankles are swelling and they'll know exactly what to do. Do a search on congestive heart failure on WebMD or just google it and see if you have any other symptoms that you may have just been blaming on the hormones.

i have to agree w/jevans....you could have any number of problems (besides just water retention--never had it that bad from anything inckuding a.bomb.s)-none of which are good.

"person with congestive heart failure has a heart that no longer pumps as efficiently as it should. The reduced efficiency of the body's pump can cause the blood, and the water it carries, to build up in the lower extremities, causing edema. A short list of other things that can cause swelling of the legs include liver, kidney or lymphatic disorders, blood clots, insect bites, bacterial infections, malnutrition, allergies, and of course pregnancy."

 

[rudy76]

i have to agree w/jevans....you could have any number of problems (besides just water retention--never had it that bad from anything inckuding a.bomb.s)-none of which are good.

"person with congestive heart failure has a heart that no longer pumps as efficiently as it should. The reduced efficiency of the body's pump can cause the blood, and the water it carries, to build up in the lower extremities, causing edema. A short list of other things that can cause swelling of the legs include liver, kidney or lymphatic disorders, blood clots, insect bites, bacterial infections, malnutrition, allergies, and of course pregnancy."

Other Causes:


Eating a poor diet high in salt and carbohydrates
Abusing laxatives
Abusing diuretics
Abusing drugs
Taking birth control or hormone replacement therapy pills
Pregnancy and PMS
Sodium retention
Varicose veins and history of phlebitis
Allergic reactions
Neuromuscular disorders
Trauma
dehydration
excessive alcohol intake
restricted circulation

Techniques to help decrease swelling:

Increase muscle activity with walking.
Avoid standing in place for long periods of time.
Avoid sitting with the feet dependent.
Limit salt intake.
Do not abuse diuretics, but a short-term course may be helpful.
Do not abuse laxatives.
Drink plenty of water.
Avoid contraceptive pills and hormone replacement therapy if possible.
Use a compressions pump to help fluid return to the blood vessels.

 

[Donnie Darko]

Other Causes:


Eating a poor diet high in salt and carbohydrates
Abusing laxatives
Abusing diuretics
Abusing drugs
Taking birth control or hormone replacement therapy pills
Pregnancy and PMS
Sodium retention
Varicose veins and history of phlebitis
Allergic reactions
Neuromuscular disorders
Trauma
dehydration
excessive alcohol intake
restricted circulation

Techniques to help decrease swelling:

Increase muscle activity with walking. Avoid standing in place for long periods of time.
Avoid sitting with the feet dependent.
Limit salt intake.
Do not abuse diuretics, but a short-term course may be helpful.
Do not abuse laxatives.
Drink plenty of water.
Avoid contraceptive pills and hormone replacement therapy if possible.
Use a compressions pump to help fluid return to the blood vessels.

Walking lunges.

 

[eddymerckx]

i found a pic of your feet ---i think you have more problems that just the swelling

 

[PhillyPA#1]

i found a pic of your feet ---i think you have more problems that just the swelling

HA! you sick fucker.

 

[PhillyPA#1]

Testosterone, estrogen, etc...can cause fluid retention in the extremities such as the feet and ankles. My thought would be that if your BP is high, then see a doctor because there would be a better possibility of congestive heart failure. It isn't a heart attack, but it is a weakening of the heart and it's ability to send enough oxygen and blood to the extremities and these can lead to a heart attack later. If this does concern you then you really should see a doctor. I'm not a doctor but I have done diagnostic work for doctors in pathology as well as offering them the best treatments for patients. Just keep an eye on BP, any irregular heart beats, and use your best judgment.

Hey thanks for the advice Darko. Yeah I believe it to be water retention. Which is actually a normal side of Testosterone. Think an AI would help this? Not that its really a big deal anyway. I am sweating at night while I sleep though and the next day the sheets smell klike a used tampon. Im thinking its the estrogen im sweating out. Im kinda moody too.

 

[Donnie Darko]

Hey thanks for the advice Darko. Yeah I believe it to be water retention. Which is actually a normal side of Testosterone. Think an aromatase inhibitor would help this? Not that its really a big deal anyway. I am sweating at night while I sleep though and the next day the sheets smell klike a used tampon. Im thinking its the estrogen im sweating out. Im kinda moody too.

Sweating is very common for people who have untreated blood pressure issues. Arimidex is good to use for water bloat while on a cycle, but find out what your blood pressure is first. I don't think it is possible to sweat the estrogen out though.

 

[rfowler]

Hey thanks for the advice Darko. Yeah I believe it to be water retention. Which is actually a normal side of Testosterone. Think an aromatase inhibitor would help this? Not that its really a big deal anyway. I am sweating at night while I sleep though and the next day the sheets smell klike a used tampon. Im thinking its the estrogen im sweating out. Im kinda moody too.

Hey bro interesting argument you started here. lol. Everybodys different this could simply be a reaction to test. For me personally I would see a doctor if anything swelled while I knew I had a history of high blood pressure thats all im saying bro, its worth checking out, it probably aint shit but if it was to be and your catching it early then all would be well.

 

[PhillyPA#1]

I dont know man, my feet and ankles are looking pretty fucking fat. Gona go to CVS tomorrow and check with BP machiene. Couldnt even get my Timberlands on.

 

[rfowler]

I dont know man, my feet and ankles are looking pretty fucking fat. Gona go to CVS tomorrow and check with BP machiene. Couldnt even get my Timberlands on.

dang bro shoot a pic of them bad boys.

 

[centy]

"person with congestive heart failure has a heart that no longer pumps as efficiently as it should. The reduced efficiency of the body's pump can cause the blood, and the water it carries, to build up in the lower extremities, causing edema. A short list of other things that can cause swelling of the legs include liver, kidney or lymphatic disorders, blood clots, insect bites, bacterial infections, malnutrition, allergies, and of course pregnancy."

How do you feel in the mornings?

 

[eddymerckx]

How do you feel in the mornings?

well, after i throw up, i am fine...a little bloated and my boobs are sensitive...maybe i just need some armidex

 

[centy]

well, after i throw up, i am fine...a little bloated and my boobs are sensitive...maybe i just need some armidex

I swear to god i pulled out in time

 

[bigdofba]

This could be from a lot of things. I have some EMT training so the first thing I think about is the heart. That being said I could be completely wrong.

I would definitely get it checked out. How is your blood pressure?

 

[centy]

I dont know man, my feet and ankles are looking pretty fucking fat. Gona go to CVS tomorrow and check with BP machiene. Couldnt even get my Timberlands on.

I can't fit my arm into those damn things. But pharmacy near me has one of those cheesey little clinics inside. The nurse there is always bored and more than happy to use the cuff. Let us know your #

 

[ceo]

Where did I say that - if your going to suggest that's shitty advice you should read what I wrote first. I said a real doc would be unable to tell by looking, only a lab test will show the cause. How do you think one would go about getting lab tests done - through a doctor!

Um, yeah. It's called sarcasm. I said seeing a real doctor was shitty advice (because there are "a lot of armchair doctors" here). See? Sarcasm. I was REALLY saying that seeing a real doctor would be the best course.

You said, "not even a doctor could tell you by looking."

Then you said, "When I stand all day at work my ankles swell - shitty for me - my heart must have failed....BS.[Gee, that sounds like sarcasm!] You're tougher than you think. Get an aromatase inhibitor."

So, you can see (hopefully) by that how I (or any reasonable person) could think you were saying that he need not see a doctor, rather he is tougher than he thinks (tougher than a heart attack!), and that he only need get an aromatase inhibitor.

Lot of armchair doctors here is right! Just like the ones who tell people what anabolics they should take, in what doses and for how long. I guess we're all a bit guilty, huh?

 

[rudy76]

Um, yeah. It's called sarcasm. I said seeing a real doctor was shitty advice (because there are "a lot of armchair doctors" here). See? Sarcasm. I was REALLY saying that seeing a real doctor would be the best course.

You said, "not even a doctor could tell you by looking."

Then you said, "When I stand all day at work my ankles swell - shitty for me - my heart must have failed....BS.[Gee, that sounds like sarcasm!] You're tougher than you think. Get an aromatase inhibitor."

So, you can see (hopefully) by that how I (or any reasonable person) could think you were saying that he need not see a doctor, rather he is tougher than he thinks (tougher than a heart attack!), and that he only need get an aromatase inhibitor.

Lot of armchair doctors here is right! Just like the ones who tell people what anabolics they should take, in what doses and for how long. I guess we're all a bit guilty, huh?

Agreed.

Sarcasm is the most misunderstood type of humour.

 

[centy]

Did you ever get your shoes on bro?

 

[PhillyPA#1]

Did you ever get your shoes on bro?

yeah, lol. wasnt as bad today. seems to go down while I sleep. Still sweating like a pig at night and the sweat leaves behind a distinct "period" smell. Like a used tampon or pad. Its gota be the estrogen. I never got a chance to run to CVS to do the BP. My wife has an at home machiene but the cuff won't fit around my giant 18 inchers. For my next cycle (2nd cycle) Id like to run some EQ at 400 mg a week and test E or C at 250.

 

[blut wump]

Having smelly sweat is a sign of inadequate water intake. Urea builds up in your body and comes out as ammonia in sweat and in breath. Coupling that with your bloat, I'd suggest adding a few more pints to your daily intake.

 

[gstacker]

man i guess your just going to hear what you want to. swollen legs and feet sounds like some serious stuff, please dont act so nonshalant about it and get checked out if not stop your cycle. if i read right this is your first cycle? dont be foolish somthing is wrong.... if this was just some regular water retention then your face would be looking like a balloon before your feet would be so swollon you cant put your shoes on......i do hope im wrong and you pop some ai and your back to normal.....good luck bro

 

[rudy76]

yeah, lol. wasnt as bad today. seems to go down while I sleep. Still sweating like a pig at night and the sweat leaves behind a distinct "period" smell. Like a used tampon or pad. Its gota be the estrogen. I never got a chance to run to CVS to do the BP. My wife has an at home machiene but the cuff won't fit around my giant 18 inchers. For my next cycle (2nd cycle) Id like to run some EQ at 400 mg a week and test E or C at 250.

One other thing I know that causes swelling from experience - really bad heat rash.

 

[PhillyPA#1]

Having smelly sweat is a sign of inadequate water intake. Urea builds up in your body and comes out as ammonia in sweat and in breath. Coupling that with your bloat, I'd suggest adding a few more pints to your daily intake.

Ive never had it prior to now (my first cycle). I will up the water. I wake up about every 3 hours in the middle of the night to piss. Its really annoying.

 

[Varga]

I can't say what's wrong with you for sure but from what you describing you need to increase your potassium and magnesium along with water and an AI pronto bro....With that kind of sweating there is no way potassium stays in your system at the levels you need it and it's absolutely no good to have water retention at this levels -take the AI
How's the water in your knees?

 

[chris69]

Ive never had it prior to now (my first cycle). I will up the water. I wake up about every 3 hours in the middle of the night to piss. Its really annoying.

Keep an eye on BP..i bought a machine at rite aid for $100....now i check EOD.......You might want to lower test to 250 a Wk...and add somthing that doesnt have that effect on you, Nandrolone ect.....The best thing about a first cycle is that you see what works well w/ you, and what doesnt...But listen to your body and play around to find your sweet spots.