Test E/ EQ Cycle Question

[offshore88]

I have read several threads/posts stating that EQ is best when run for an extended period (14 or more weeks). Is this true when stacking? I am planning on running a cycle of Test E 500mg/wk with EQ 400mg/wk for 12 weeks. Would it make sense to run the EQ for an extra two or three weeks or should I start the EQ two or three weeks before the Test or just keep it at 12 weeks?

I'm 26, 6'1", 200lbs, 10-12% BF, been training on and off since 15, this will be my first cycle.

 

[boops]

I have read several threads/posts stating that EQ is best when run for an extended period (14 or more weeks). Is this true when stacking? I am planning on running a cycle of Test E 500mg/wk with EQ 400mg/wk for 12 weeks. Would it make sense to run the EQ for an extra two or three weeks or should I start the EQ two or three weeks before the Test or just keep it at 12 weeks?

I'm 26, 6'1", 200lbs, 10-12% BF, been training on and off since 15, this will be my first cycle.

well i usually say to do just a test only cycle as your first based on the fact you wont be able to tell what is working for you and what isnt....that being said if you decide to stack with what you have it is true that the longer you run the eq the better, if i were you and i would run the test to week 13 like this
15 PCT
13 test
12 eq

reason being you can then start pct 2 weeks after last test shot because eq takes about 3 weeks to leave the system......good luck with whatever you decide

 

[timtim]

it is better when you run the eq longer. i do eq for 16 weeks, test e for 14, and then finish the last 6 weeks with prop only, gives the eq time to clear while your still on test.

 

[nydj66]

12 weeks is about the minimum you'd want to run an EQ cycle but 12 weeks will give plenty of results. Because of it's long half-life it takes about 6 weeks for the EQ to kick in. If this is your fist cycle you will do plenty of growing in the 6 weeks after the EQ kicks in.

I'm in week 12 of a test/EQ/winny (wk 6-12) cycle where I've increased my bench press 20 lbs, gained 8 lbs in body weight, and decreased from 16% to 14% BF.

However, if you do decide to extend the cycle to 14 weeks, you can start the EQ two weeks before the test-E, then both steroids will be kicking in about week 6.

 

[boops]

it is better when you run the eq longer. i do eq for 16 weeks, test e for 14, and then finish the last 6 weeks with prop only, gives the eq time to clear while your still on test.

i usually tell people to do this as well, finish with prop, but most dont like the thought of that (added shots) and have had some even say why shut yourself down longer lol even though your already shut down to begin with...i just like the idea of no "dead time" waiting for things to clear.....k to you

 

[wayneboard1]

I am a big fan of the test e/eq cycle. My experience has shown that I respond very well to test e for 14 weeks and eq for 15-16. However I am only running test e at 250 not 500. I think running the test to week 12 and he eq to week 14 would be a great cycle. Eq kicks in at about week 8 for me so I like running it for another 6 weeks after it rears it ugly head. Good luck bro.

 

[timtim]

i usually tell people to do this as well, finish with prop, but most dont like the thought of that (added shots) and have had some even say why shut yourself down longer lol even though your already shut down to begin with...i just like the idea of no "dead time" waiting for things to clear.....k to you

i do 1 cycle a year between 18 and 20 weeks. i've been using the test e/eq/end with prop for the last 2 or 3 and the recovery time is zero! i transition into pct and alot of people can't tell when i'm on or off because of the conditioning. i believe this is all because of the prop ending. i have never stayed as cut and striated after a cycle then when i finish with prop.

 

[boops]

i do 1 cycle a year between 18 and 20 weeks. i've been using the test e/eq/end with prop for the last 2 or 3 and the recovery time is zero! i transition into pct and alot of people can't tell when i'm on or off because of the conditioning. i believe this is all because of the prop ending. i have never stayed as cut and striated after a cycle then when i finish with prop.

i too am the same way, the prop helps ease me into PCT which is nice....

 

[offshore88]

Thanks for the replies. K to you all. Am I getting this right? Start the EQ first, then add the Test E at week 2-3, stop both EQ and Test E at week 15 or so, then start Prop for like two weeks, then start PCT?

Wk 1-15 EQ
Wk 3-15 Test E
Wk 16-17 Prop
Wk 18-21 PCT

 

[big49ersfan]

does it have to be prop into pct im running var and prov into pct wouldnt this act the same way??

or is prop still the best thing to be hitting up for those 3 weeks

 

[wayneboard1]

Thanks for the replies. K to you all. Am I getting this right? Start the EQ first, then add the Test E at week 2-3, stop both EQ and Test E at week 15 or so, then start Prop for like two weeks, then start PCT?

Wk 1-15 EQ
Wk 3-15 Test E
Wk 16-17 Prop
Wk 18-21 PCT

If it were me running this cycle, I would start the test and eq at the SAME time to have the test there while the eq has not kicked in yet. Then drop the test a few weeks before you end the cycle and keep running the eq. As I mentioned earlier, the eq won't kick in until about weeks 7 or 8 on average, and the test will help "kickstart" this cycle. Otherwise, you aren't going to get as much as you could out of the first 3-4 weeks. Good luck bro.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Test + Eq = Good bulker
Or with a light AI is a great cutter!

Good all around cycle!

 

[tzan]

My next cycle. Lean bulker:

wks1-4 50mg tbol
wks8-12 50mg tbol
wks16-20 50mg tbol
wks 1-17 600mg eq
wks 1-18 500mg enanthate

Jump starting the cycle with the tbol. Running it again in the middle when everything else should be hitting me. Then at the end right into pct.

 

[offshore88]

So if I run the Test weeks 1-12 and the EQ weeks 1-14, when should I start PCT?

 

[timtim]

gotta run the test at least 1 week longer, i like to go 4 weeks after to make sure everything has cleared.

if you run the test 1 week after and it's test e, start the pct 3 weeks after you last test inject or you can start the pct protocol at 2 weeks just to be sure. the reason we use prop is to know when exactly to start the pct. with test e, i've had different experiences each pct, starting too early - too late - not long enough, etc. this is where prop comes in.

 

[wayneboard1]

So if I run the Test weeks 1-12 and the EQ weeks 1-14, when should I start PCT?

10 days after your last stick. I disagree with the posts about running the test longer.

 

[boops]

10 days after your last stick. I disagree with the posts about running the test longer.

that particular EQ ester takes longer then enanthate to clear the body...thats why people are suggesting run the test 1 week longer or more..

 

[c3bodybuilding]

I hate to say it, but at your height and weight, you aren't all that big. For all those years of training, you should be a lot bigger or more ripped at that weight. So the first thing I would do is take a good long look at what you've been doing training and nutrition wise. Something cleary isn't right. If it's a matter of the 'training off and on since 15', and there being more off than on then I think it's time to also look at your dedication.

None of this is a flame at all. I just don't want you ruining your first cycle and not getting all you could out of it because of training, nutrition concerns. I would first go to the training board and read some of those stickys. Once everything else is in order a good first cycle would be 400 or 500mgs of test all on it's own. Nolva on hand and proper post cycle therapy planned out as well. I would run that cycle for 8 weeks, no longer. If you want to run it longer, then 10 tops. You want to get in and get out quick.

Currently I am in the 260 range, and I am running a cycle very similiar to yours, and you are only 200. I'm doing 750 test e, 500 eq. Just some things to think about. If you need some training or nutrition tips ask around, lot's of great bro's here. Welcome to the brotherhood.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

One more thing bro, if you do go ahead and decide to do the cycle, feel free to contact me for training and nutrition program, or post around here. It's your first cycle and you only get one, I'd like you to get the most out of it!!

 

[zips92]

My next cycle. Lean bulker:

wks1-4 50mg tbol
wks8-12 50mg tbol
wks16-20 50mg tbol
wks 1-17 600mg eq
wks 1-18 500mg enanthate

Jump starting the cycle with the tbol. Running it again in the middle when everything else should be hitting me. Then at the end right into pct.

I really like the looks of this cycle.

Finishing off with a short acting ester, I couldn't agree more, but just as big49ersfan asked, you have the option of finishing off with an oral also, if you do not want to ED injects with prop at the end.

I know some bros however don't like the 1- 3 weeks down time at the end of the cyle with no short acting injection, but I have found transitioning with orals at the end works very good for my pct also.

 

[boops]

I hate to say it, but at your height and weight, you aren't all that big. For all those years of training, you should be a lot bigger or more ripped at that weight. So the first thing I would do is take a good long look at what you've been doing training and nutrition wise. Something cleary isn't right. If it's a matter of the 'training off and on since 15', and there being more off than on then I think it's time to also look at your dedication.

None of this is a flame at all. I just don't want you ruining your first cycle and not getting all you could out of it because of training, nutrition concerns. I would first go to the training board and read some of those stickys. Once everything else is in order a good first cycle would be 400 or 500mgs of test all on it's own. Nolva on hand and proper post cycle therapy planned out as well. I would run that cycle for 8 weeks, no longer. If you want to run it longer, then 10 tops. You want to get in and get out quick.

Currently I am in the 260 range, and I am running a cycle very similiar to yours, and you are only 200. I'm doing 750 test e, 500 eq. Just some things to think about. If you need some training or nutrition tips ask around, lot's of great bro's here. Welcome to the brotherhood.

bro this by far is an excellent answer and pretty much what i used to try and give as advice but most people are already in their mind "big enough" to go ahead and cycle so i abandoned this stuff and try to help as far as their cycle goes....i wish people would get wise to the points you made here but it seems these days its all about jumping into things before they are ready....i know your handle back from when the board was "better" and alot more information was available as well as more knowledgable bros so to the guy who posted the original thread perhaps you should take this bro up on his offer and get some advice from him.....just an idea prolly not what you want to hear but maybe its whats best for you, if you do decide to cycle anyway there is enough info given here to help you along...good luck and let us know how it goes......

 

[offshore88]

Thanks for all the great info bros. I haven't totally comitted myself to starting this first cycle yet, just trying to make sure I get my shit in order before I take the plunge. C3bodybuilding, you're right, there has been more off than on during the last 11 years. From 15-19 I trained regularly because I was playing ball, from 20-24 I was hit or miss at the gym, now I'm a regular again. I'm currently at the lowest weight I've been in over 5 years, I just finished cutting for 12 weeks. I will take all the great advice I've gotten from here and apply it when I do start, whether that be next month or next year.