Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I have heard that Nolvadex is not a good PCT to use for a Deca cycle. I wanted to find out because I have found it to be much cheaper then the other PCT drugs. I have the testosterone recovery stack already, and I wanted to know if it was possible to start taking Nolvadex towards the end of my cycle and for PCT as well. Please let me know what you guys think.
Test E + Deca + Dbol PCT, no Nolva?
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The reason people tell you not to use nolvadex with nandrolones (deca tren npp) is because nolvadex up regulates the progesterone receptor.
You can still use nolvadex in your pct, as long as you are using an anti prolactin drug with your steroid cycle, such as cabergoline. 0.5mg e3d is a good dosage. You can order it from ag-guys.com
I recommend running the perfect pct protocol after your cycle: The Perfect Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) - Evolutionary.org
You can still use nolvadex in your pct, as long as you are using an anti prolactin drug with your steroid cycle, such as cabergoline. 0.5mg e3d is a good dosage. You can order it from ag-guys.com
I recommend running the perfect pct protocol after your cycle: The Perfect Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) - Evolutionary.org
The up-regulation of the PGR receptor has nothing to do with a dopamine agonist increasing PRL. That being said you are correct, nolva can be used with deca because although it does up-regulate the PGR receptor, after 2 weeks time it actually then down-regulates the PGR receptor.
The whole nolva/19nor thing is essentially an overblown myth or at least has turned into one.
The up-regulation of the PGR receptor has nothing to do with a dopamine agonist increasing PRL in this circumstance, not at all.
That being said you are correct, nolva can be used with deca because although it does up-regulate the PGR receptor, after 2 weeks time it actually then down-regulates the PGR receptor.
The whole nolva/19nor thing is essentially an overblown myth or at least has turned into one.
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Ya I know people that run nolva with all there cycles including Tren and deca and have never had any prolactin issues.. People always blow the prolactin thing way out of proportion.. I've never used caber or any prolactin support with any of my cycles including Tren and deca and have never had an issue.. I've never ran an ai either 
but I've never ran my test higher then 600. This next run I'm doing 800 so I'll be using adex at like .5 eod to try it out and ramp up if needed..
but I've never ran my test higher then 600. This next run I'm doing 800 so I'll be using adex at like .5 eod to try it out and ramp up if needed..
the reason the nolva thing gets legs is cause people get estrogen rebound after their cycle. nolva IS NOT what you should use with deca or any aromatizing compound, you should use aromasin as it is a suicide AI. Nolva is way cheaper then aromasin, so guys rather use that.. plus they are stuck in their old school methods from the 80's and 90's.
with deca I recommend using both aromasin and proviron on cycle. this way you are covering all bases.
with deca I recommend using both aromasin and proviron on cycle. this way you are covering all bases.
Well, now that you're 7 years older, you might know better. : )
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Ya I wouldn't do it.. That's just what some people I know do.. I'm going to run adex my next cycle..
